The Macbook Pro is actually NOT overpriced (With Ultrabook/Notebook Comparison Chart)

[JDS]

Oh, hi, you must be new here. Over here we have ---> google.com ; and over here we have----> Linustechtips.com 

 

/welcome to the internet 

 

P.s. give me that H440 of yours :unsure:

 

I'll be dead before I give that thing up.

[79wjd]

I'll be dead before I give that thing up.

 

[JDS]

If it makes you feel any better, I'm 1,400 miles away from it for the next 4 months.

[79wjd]

If it makes you feel any better, I'm 1,400 miles away from it for the next 4 months.

Perfect, have someone send it my way  

 

I'll send it back in a month+ once mine comes. 

[JDS]

Perfect, have someone send it my way

 

I'll send it back in a month+ once mine comes. 

 

Yeah...no. 

[Admiaczking]

All Macs are overpriced because they don't run Windows!

[Henry]

All Macs are overpriced because they don't run Windows! 

 

#Linuxmasterracebro

Jk, but you can always install Win 8.1 with Bootcamp. 

[Builder]

All Macs are overpriced because they don't run Windows!

Surely you must be trolling. That literally makes no sense.

[TheSLSAMG]

I like how we are arguing over something that is completely subjective. 

This, all of this.

 

Please people, stop trying to prove that one product is better than another when such a thing is dependent on a lot of different variables which differ from person to person. It can only end in an argument.

[TheSLSAMG]

Surely you must be trolling. That literally makes no sense.

Obvious joke is obvious, it flew right over your head.

[Builder]

Obvious joke is obvious, it flew right over your head.

I said it was trolling. Does that not count?

[KemoKa]

Yes but you can fit two MBPR into the chassis of that MSI and I strongly doubt it gets eight hours of battery life.

To be fair, Tek Syndicate did say that it is more of a desktop-replacement-grade laptop. But, if you want an absolutely no-compromises computer that you can also lug around with you if you so decide, that's the one people are going to go for.

Aesthetics and size of the laptop are entirely subjective and will float entirely different boats. Some will want to fit a fast laptop into a briefcase, others will want to fit a powerhorse in a backpack.

That aside, if you aren't using the GPU, you can set it to use the iGPU and spin down the hard drive. The M.2s are sipping tiny bits of power, and if you minimized power consumption I would say, based on how much power the components take that you could, theoretically get 8 hours on battery. No different for the MBPR or any other laptop, you have to push those things to get the advertised battery life.

[Builder]

That aside, if you aren't using the GPU, you can set it to use the iGPU and spin down the hard drive. The M.2s are sipping tiny bits of power, and if you minimized power consumption I would say, based on how much power the components take that you could, theoretically get 8 hours on battery. No different for the MBPR or any other laptop, you have to push those things to get the advertised battery life.

Not true. Look at MBPR battery life numbers. It often gets over eight hours, Apple under advertises its battery lives.

[PaulKolby]

chill u guys go hardcore about this topic and prices macs are still $500 more then pc but u do get nice build quality from apple but most pc''s these days are pretty good build quality these days its all about the person macs are nice for travel and ruggedness and all around quality pc while stilll haveing good quality is for buisness gaming and for people who just prefer a pc

[Laputacake]

My laptop is da best. Intel core i3 350m, 2gb ram,GMA5700MHD graphics 60gb ssd all running on my favourite os Linux mint 17 cinnamon.

[KemoKa]

Not true. Look at MBPR battery life numbers. It often gets over eight hours, Apple under advertises its battery lives.

Now that you mention that, I can't help but notice that they tend to do that. Where SSD manufacturers tend to give peak data rates on sequential reads and writes for large files that will likely seldom be achieved in the real world, Apple way undersells their SSDs. The terabyte SSDs in the MBPR are, correct me if I'm wrong, advertised at around 775MBps read/write, where the tests that 9to5Mac did found it to get well over 1100MBps read/write.

Probably just to be on the safe side.

In terms of batteries, I really hate Toshiba for this. Why can't we buy these in the US?

 

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2064861/toshiba-says-its-new-kira-ultrabook-packs-a-ridonkulous-22-hour-battery-life.html

[KemoKa]

Chill you guys go hardcore about this topic and prices macs are still $500~(sort of) more than a PC but you do get nice build quality from Apple but most PCs these days are pretty good build quality these days it's all about the person. Macs are nice for travel and ruggedness and all around quality, PC while still having good quality is for business, gaming and for people who just prefer a PC.

Not to mention that the onslaught of Linux is something that Microsoft will not survive, but Apple will sidestep quite neatly because BSD.

[KemoKa]

My laptop is da best. Intel core i3 350m, 2gb ram,GMA5700MHD graphics 60gb ssd all running on my favourite os Linux mint 17 cinnamon.

Try my dad's old work laptop that he kept after the company phased them out. Dell Latitude, Centrino, 100GB HDD. Fricking old. Running Ubuntu like an absolute boss.

[Laputacake]

Now that you mention that, I can't help but notice that they tend to do that. Where SSD manufacturers tend to give peak data rates on sequential reads and writes for large files that will likely seldom be achieved in the real world, Apple way undersells their SSDs. The terabyte SSDs in the MBPR are, correct me if I'm wrong, advertised at around 775MBps read/write, where the tests that 9to5Mac did found it to get well over 1100MBps read/write.

Probably just to be on the safe side.

That is one fast ssd. I've sent that before where they undersell to be on the safe side. Thruthily I'd say I dislike apple fans that apple products. I quite like Mac os x. And each product has its place. And apple has a place. Way up in the sky and that probably made no sense so I'm going to sleep

[Sonefiler]

Can anyone correct me on this PCPP? From what I see the $1800 13" is actually fairly amazing. 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($59.00 @ Amazon) 

Motherboard: ASRock H81M-ITX Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($64.98 @ SuperBiiz) 

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($72.00 @ Newegg) 

Video Card: Asus GeForce GT 610 1GB Video Card  ($34.99 @ NCIX US) 

Monitor: Dell U3014 60Hz 30.0" Monitor  ($1049.00 @ B&H) 

Other: 512GB PCI-E SSD ($719.50)

Other: Power Brick ($30.00)

Other: Paying the design team ($500.00)

Other: unibody aluminium ($200.00)

Other: Webcam ($30.00)

Other: Paying the people who make MacOSX ($500.00)

Other: Cheap labor ($15.00)

Other: The stickers that come with Mac laptops ($1.00)

Total: $3275.47

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-27 23:18 EDT-0400

[Boatiy]

I would never get the tower, i bult a hackintosh for my friend for about $1.2k and it out performs anything in that price range from mac. but the laptops are extremely well built,

 

beautifly well built i might add. I love the heavy premimuf alluimiun body feel. Throw a SSD in there and maybe swap the drive out for a HDD and its a beast of a system.

 

Would love to get a 2012-13 13 inch MBP for 600 and upgrade the internals. Muwahahah

 

EDIT* Of course it would be dual booted with Windows 7 and OSX

[Builder]

Now that you mention that, I can't help but notice that they tend to do that. Where SSD manufacturers tend to give peak data rates on sequential reads and writes for large files that will likely seldom be achieved in the real world, Apple way undersells their SSDs. The terabyte SSDs in the MBPR are, correct me if I'm wrong, advertised at around 775MBps read/write, where the tests that 9to5Mac did found it to get well over 1100MBps read/write.

Probably just to be on the safe side.

In terms of batteries, I really hate Toshiba for this. Why can't we buy these in the US?

 

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2064861/toshiba-says-its-new-kira-ultrabook-packs-a-ridonkulous-22-hour-battery-life.html

Apple does it because they don't sell their computers with spec sheets. Their marketing is all focused on the things you will do with the hardware, not the things it can do or what specs it has inside it. This gets back to why I'm a programmer and why I like Apple hardware, because Apple acknowledges specs aren't the most important part of a computer and that there's still a lot there beyond what can be read with names and model numbers on a spec sheet.

 

Plus, when they say it gets 12 hours of battery life and the reviews claim 14 in most cases, the situation looks a lot better than if they had claimed 15 and it was very hard to get 15 hours out of it.

[Admiaczking]

Surely you must be trolling. That literally makes no sense.

Of Course I'm trolling, anything that doesn't run Linux and was built by hand is overpriced

[KemoKa]

Of Course I'm trolling, anything that doesn't run Linux and was built by hand is overpriced

By built by hand I hope you don't mean... built from parts like mobos and things like we do, because this entire thread has been that PCs built from scratch are cheaper than macs and even normal PCs.

[Henry]

chill u guys go hardcore about this topic and prices macs are still $500 more then pc but u do get nice build quality from apple but most pc''s these days are pretty good build quality these days its all about the person macs are nice for travel and ruggedness and all around quality pc while stilll haveing good quality is for buisness gaming and for people who just prefer a pc

You aren't paying just for the build quality, though that is a selling point to macs. I have never seen anything more well built than a rMBP/MBA.

You pay for the overall hardware/spec, but not bang for buck.