Intel Octo-Core Haswell E $999 (Rumour)

[Poohy14]

does surprise me that it would cost that mush

[That Norwegian Guy]

That 5820k sounds delicious! Do want, badly.

 

Keep in mind the 5820K will get less PCIe lanes than the 5930K, the only difference between the two except the base clock.

[seiny]

Lol "wallet busting"

[seiny]

Wholly Geezballz guys stop arguing in extremes! [haswell-extremes? ]. Some gamers have use for lots of cores. Some don't need more than their old smartphone.

being a "gamer" doesn't automatically mean you don't need more power in your computer, and it doesn't automatically mean you do.

 

Some "gamers" stream and video edit and audio edit and render and other things with their computer, they'd LOVE an 8core processor. "Oh wait they are a gamer, they don't need 8 cores.. psh.."

Some "gamers" don't stream, don't edit video, don't render, or do anything other than games, they clearly don't need an 8core processor. "Oh wait, they are a gamer, games will soon use all the cores! they need it!"

I'm not going to call you guys idiots, but.. being a gamer has nothing to do with your computing power needs. it has to do with the quality of gaming you prefer, and other uses for the computer.

Besides, this is x99, a workstation and enthusiast oriented platform. Is it badass for gaming? YES! but are PC gamers (likely more specifically males between the ages of 15-25ish) the target demographic for this chipset? NO.

Give this man a cookie!

[fringie]

It's confirmed haswell-e highest end (i7 5960x) will be 8 core. The price will most likely be $999 which is also common knowledge.

 

Old news, multiple threads/videos etc about it. 

[Inkz]

Have you really not heard of this? It has been everywhere for a few months now.

[patrickjp93]

If people needed 8+ cores before then they would have gotten server CPUs.

And dealt with severe loss of single-thread performance.

[Misanthrope]

Keep in mind the 5820K will get less PCIe lanes than the 5930K, the only difference between the two except the base clock.

 

I don't need too many PCIe lanes honestly, I don't plan to use it for workstation stuff just a robust gaming rig with some light vmware capabilities.

[patrickjp93]

...

 

I am flabbergasted on how you came to the conclusion that people who bought professional Xeon CPUs with 8+ cores for heavy multithreaded workloads would be concerned with single-thread performance.

Because workstation people would still like to be able to cruise along at proper speeds while doing menial tasks on the same machine. If I spent money on a workstation, I'd like to be able to game properly on it too.

[That Norwegian Guy]

I don't need too many PCIe lanes honestly, I don't plan to use it for workstation stuff just a robust gaming rig with some light vmware capabilities.

 

Yeah I plan on getting a 5920K myself, just a heads up if you weren't aware.

[patrickjp93]

Right... you wouldn't able to browser the web or talk on Skype smoothly with slightly less single-thread performance... (sarcasm). I was thinking of a production environment where the machine is dedicated to one task and will be under heavy load 24/7 which is what Xeons are designed for.

But you also have renderers in there who game.

[ItsLinkNotZelda]

At least the 6 cores will be more affordable. I'm wondering if its worth it since I'm always hosting servers for my friends?

[LukaP]

But you also have renderers in there who game.

its not like a xeon cant game... it can game just as well (if not better) than an FX, since its IPC is so much better, even with a slower clockspeed. plus it can offload all other threads to other cores, so it dedicates the 4 cores it needs to a game... your point is moot

[patrickjp93]

its not like a xeon cant game... it can game just as well (if not better) than an FX, since its IPC is so much better, even with a slower clockspeed. plus it can offload all other threads to other cores, so it dedicates the 4 cores it needs to a game... your point is moot

I would never game on an FX. I game on I5 minimum. But at 8 cores Xeons even slow down to 3 GHz. Also, most games still depend on single-core performance. Only some have multi-core support, and that's really only for FPS games. For MMORPGs or RTS games, you still really do need that one core going as fast as it can when a lot of characters/monsters are on the screen together.

[LukaP]

I would never game on an FX. I game on I5 minimum. But at 8 cores Xeons even slow down to 3 GHz.

so what... that still doesnt bottleneck a 2x array, so any gaming should be fine... youre scared of it being slow, but in reality its faster than any nahalem, and i still game on a nahalem i5 and a 770 with no bottlenecks... so its fine

[patrickjp93]

so what... that still doesnt bottleneck a 2x array, so any gaming should be fine... youre scared of it being slow, but in reality its faster than any nahalem, and i still game on a nahalem i5 and a 770 with no bottlenecks... so its fine

And the clock rate on said chip? If it's less than 3.6 GHz I'll be admittedly surprised.

[LukaP]

And the clock rate on said chip? If it's less than 3.6 GHz I'll be admittedly surprised.

the stock 2.66GHz games are very GPU bound these days mate i mean probably WoW wouldnt run as well as on a haswell, but i even get 60FPS in star citizen mostly, with some dips into the 40s  

[patrickjp93]

the stock 2.66GHz games are very GPU bound these days mate i mean probably WoW wouldnt run as well as on a haswell, but i even get 60FPS in star citizen mostly, with some dips into the 40s

Any game with AI based on the client PC is not as GPU-bound as you think. You have to actually know what the game architecture is and how the software was implemented. Graphics are graphics but there's a lot more to it.

[LukaP]

Any game with AI based on the client PC is not as GPU-bound as you think. You have to actually know what the game architecture is and how the software was implemented. Graphics are graphics but there's a lot more to it.

i know, hence i said that some would not run well, but i also gave an example that runs well, and that is with ai i know you are probably not convinced, maybe if ill have time, ill run benches later

[Trik'Stari]

I want......

[patrickjp93]

Aha... Overpriced shit again... Moooah... They should fix their ridiculously high prices!

If you think an 8-core CPU with 18MB of L3 cache running at 3.6-4.0 GHz isn't worth $1000 let's see you build one.

[deathjester]

Aha... Overpriced shit again... Moooah... They should fix their ridiculously high prices!

 

Uh dude you might want to check out the price of a Mac workstation with this many cores/threads that can do this much of a workload or any other big brand workstation.

 

This thing as a Hackintosh/workstation would pretty much be the biggest steal ever. I would build one in a second as a workstation. 

 

As a gaming cpu? Yeah waste of money and no real benefits, since the consoles have only 6 cores available to them on the SDK and I doubt anyone would make a game for these things. As a budget workstation CPU that can also game and pretty much do anything you want awesome? This thing is fantastic.

 

Now the old hexa X at 1000? Yeah that was overpriced compared to the non X. 

[GamerPatriot]

I don't see most people using 8 cores to it's full potential. 

[LukaP]

I don't see most people using 8 cores to it's full potential. 

i dont see most people buying it

 

this is meant for heavy workstations, and epeen

[BobbyG2]

I got my 8320 to hopefully get as much life out of it as my c2duo, when I got my c2duo people said its a waste as well, nowadays 2 cores isn't enough