Sick and tired of "PC ports"

[cluelessgenius]

i just donnt get why they are developing the things for consoles and then port it to pc. didnt it used to be the other way around. that would much more sense to me since you would develop a genius looking game for pc and then degrade it so the consoles can run it. 

 

what your opinion on that? am i wrong? what do you think?

[Jerakl]

Indeed!

I hope IF they eventually port Destiny to PC it won't be really bad. Apparently GTA IV had a horrid PC port.

[Sauron]

You're right, but sony and ms bribe developers to get the "best" version of the game for console so they can brag about it at e3 and convince some more people to buy them. The trend should be reversing recently though, as pc is at an all time peak and has more gamers than xbox and ps combined. Those devs won't resist much longer to the appeal of more than twice as many potential customers and will eventualy give up the nonsense and develop for pc first. Don't loose hope just yet

[Geekazoid]

The title of this thread is misleading. When I first saw it I was thinking quite literally PC ports like USB, HDMI, VGA, DVI, ect. I then would've asked the question, why are you tired of PC ports? Quite ridiculous really.

[AlwaysFSX]

The market wasn't large enough, and still isn't in some developers' eyes, for them to give a damn about the pc side of things. That's slowly changing but you don't go chasing where the money isn't.

[midrim]

Ubisoft said Watch Dogs was best played on PC. Despite better graphics, that shit was slow, buggy and almost unplayable at release. You know shit goes down when publishers lie about ports.

 

 

 

On the bright side, they can never port most strategy/simulation games on a console. We may have shitty ports, but there's always a ton of mods for them. Take GTA 4 for example, youtube has a lot of videos for mods for it (iron man was the best for me)

[cluelessgenius]

Ubisoft said Watch Dogs was best played on PC. Despite better graphics, that shit was slow, buggy and almost unplayable at release. 

 

On the bright side, they can never port most strategy/simulation games on a console. 

oh thats why there are no releases of good strategy games lately , still waiting for that new C&C

[Nexus]

PC is harder to develop for. It also costs more to include better graphics/animation in a game etc. Its understandable why some devs port the game to pc as an afterthought.

I agree though that it is annoying.

[Nexus]

oh thats why there are no releases of good strategy games lately , still waiting for that new C&C

There are plenty of good strategy games.

Total War series

Civilization

Planetary Annihilation

Star Craft 2

 

CnC Generals 2 (or whatever tehy changed the name too) was meant to be really bad, its shame, all they have to do is remake the original generals and it would be perfect. I still play it to this day.

[Legion]

oh thats why there are no releases of good strategy games lately , still waiting for that new C&C

 

A few of the biggest games released on PC last year were a strategy games.

[cluelessgenius]

There are plenty of good strategy games.

Total War series

Civilization

Planetary Annihilation

Star Craft 2

 

CnC Generals 2 (or whatever tehy changed the name too) was meant to be really bad, its shame, all they have to do is remake the original generals and it would be perfect. I still play it to this day.

that made me think, maybe i could make that as a project. seeing that i could just copy everything from generals and update the graphics

[cluelessgenius]

also im just not a big fan of civ or total war, planetary annihilation i havent heard of am definitly gonna check that out and starcraft i just never got myself to buy maybe i should chekc that out also

[ShadowCaptain]

Its because "PC" is not really a unified platform there is nobody to throw their weight around. We need valve/origin/gog or somebody to step up the plate and give incentives for developers to make PC a dedicated platform and not just something to port their game to.

 

Sony and Microsoft have much tighter control and much more influence over developers

[Guest Kloaked]

I'm no game developer but I don't think "port" means what you think it means. Porting it to PC after its been on console would be the same as them first porting to PC then console. The differences are PC takes a little more time to optimize for (not just turning graphic sliders down, looking at you Ubisoft) and on PC, animations and physics have to be optimized to work at different framerates and not just 30fps.

So while I agree with what you're saying, it's not that being ported to PC is the problem, it's that some developers don't give a damn about the PC market enough to make the game run properly on PC.

[ShadowCaptain]

I'm no game developer but I don't think "port" means what you think it means. Porting it to PC after its been on console would be the same as them first porting to PC then console. The differences are PC takes a little more time to optimize for (not just turning graphic sliders down, looking at you Ubisoft) and on PC, animations and physics have to be optimized to work at different framerates and not just 30fps.

So while I agree with what you're saying, it's not that being ported to PC is the problem, it's that some developers don't give a damn about the PC market enough to make the game run properly on PC.

 

I guess the modern definition of a port is different, since games are made on PC and release for console (even exlusives).  A modern port is when the dev does nothing to the game in order to give it "pc" featres, like using the same textures as the console version, having little to no settings menu, locking framrates and things like that

 

Its frustrating just to copy past your code and not bother releasing it properly. some games dont even have mouse support! 

[warpig]

Meanwhile, at Ubisoft Montreal:

 

 

 

[Notional]

The fact of the matter is that consoles are just a much larger market (speaking AAA games, not indie), than pc is. Just look at Ubisofts Q4 fiscal year report. Only about 24% PC market. That is why.

 

Ps4 and XB1 are so good for us pc users though, since the new consoles are X86 based, contra the old consoles, being RISC based. This means that it will be so much easier for devs to port a game back and forth between pc and the new consoles, as they would more or less run equally on the CPU side. This should result in much better pc games, that are multi platform in the future.

[EpicGeekonFire]

You are right, it makes a heck of alot more sense. PC hardware is usually better than any console so doesnt it just make sense to make a full featured game and then skim it down? I'd think it would be easier for devs and a better PC game. The pc gaming world is bigger than ever, and its about time they did that.