Cant Decide

[Guest]

I don't like to recommend a particular board, that would be more of a biased opinion. Just get a board you like, they all will oc equally.

Would the formula get decent OC on a 4670k some people where saying z87 would not.

[ProKoN]

 

Thats wrong, unstable oc or stable oc same flops rate in IBT. 

 

 

 

Your board isnt a 20 phase, it's just a true 5+0 phase: http://www.sinhardware.com/images/vrmlist.png and as you could see any board there including midrange or perhaps theyre lowend were rated for LN2 overclocking.

 

 

To counter your logic; the formula will get you more OC than your mpower.

 

 

lol please dont troll my content, quote me, or attempt to correct me.

 

if you wanna bust out your haswell parts, bust em out, talk is cheap.

 

once again, i dont care what you read on the internet, go read some more internet. lmao

[Guest]

lol please dont troll my content, quote me, or attempt to correct me.

And now you know my pain.

[i_build_nanosuits]

which board would you recommend?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130771&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

add i5-4670K + GTX780 for insane gaming machine

[ProKoN]

And now you know my pain.

 

this guy is our very own in house community troll

 

he has no personal experience on the platform whatsoever.

 

his whole life revolves around what he reads on the internet.

 

im fine with that, just dont try and correct a knowledgeable guy like me with all the hardware sitting right here!!, in front of me.

 

he not only trolls my content, but others as well, he hasnt the maturity or insight to know when to stop or acknowledge he is wrong lol

 

sorry to call him out in your thread.

[Guest]

this guy is our very own in house community troll

 

he has no personal experience on the platform whatsoever.

 

his whole life revolves around what he reads on the internet.

 

im fine with that, just dont try and correct a knowledgeable guy like me with all the hardware sitting right here!!, in front of me.

 

he not only trolls my content, but others as well, he hasnt the maturity or insight to know when to stop or acknowledge he is wrong lol

 

sorry to call him out in your thread.

Are you talking about me?

[Guest]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130771&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

add i5-4670K + GTX780 for insane gaming machine

I just have to ask if i'm already getting these parts is it really such a bad thing to buy a slightly better moetherboard? Believe me I did consider this exact motherboard I have just always like Asus's products. 

[ProKoN]

Are you talking about me?

 

nope

 

I was talking about the community troll, dont worry we all know who it is. (including himself)

[Guest]

nope

 

I was talking about the community troll, dont worry we all know who it is.

Also would the formula overclock any worse than the Z97 platform?

[ProKoN]

nope

 

I was talking about the community troll, dont worry we all know who it is.

 

z87 vs z97

 

no difference in performance

 

z87 is a great platform for overclocking.

[Guest]

z87 vs z97

 

no difference in performance

 

z87 is a great platform for overclocking.

Thanks is there any reason I should choose z97 over it?

[ProKoN]

Thanks is there any reason I should choose z97 over it?

 

official support for devils canyon and broadwell

 

m.2 support

[Faa]

Would the formula get decent OC on a 4670k some people where saying z87 would not.

No like I said it's all up to the cpu, not the board

 

lol please dont troll my content, quote me, or attempt to correct me.

Explain me how a unstable OC can effect your performance? Go ahead. A proper overclocker wouldn't claim this. For now you're just wrong. 

Sin0822 google him, he has like 15K rep orsomething at OCN and this is his youtube channel explains vrm extremely detailed: https://www.youtube.com/user/sin0822/videos

You're not even on his level and he's pretty much right that your board isn't a true 20 phase or even a 8phase, it's just a regular board thats false advertized as shit

 

 

if you wanna bust out your haswell parts, bust em out, talk is cheap.

Stop putting your nonsense in bold. If you're aware of the z77 extreme4's "cheap" vrm and its overvolting issue of 100mVt: http://www.overclock.net/t/1360404/asrock-z77-series-vcore-reading

This dude did 6.5GHz: full stream here -> http://www.twitch.tv/overclocktv/b/531558440

Now that we know your board isnt going to do any better than a regular Z87 board, your talk was cheap.

 

 

once again, i dont care what you read on the internet, go read some more internet. lmao

Going against the majority is what you do which makes you wrong. You're kinda a great overclocker, doesnt understand the basics of haswell cooling puts another 120mm*80 rad to cool his haswell cpu which didnt even make the difference.

[ProKoN]

 

No like I said it's all up to the cpu, not the board

 

Explain me how a unstable OC can effect your performance? Go ahead. A proper overclocker wouldn't claim this. For now you're just wrong. 

Sin0822 google him, he has like 15K rep orsomething at OCN and this is his youtube channel explains vrm extremely detailed: https://www.youtube.com/user/sin0822/videos

You're not even on his level and he's pretty much right that your board isn't a true 20 phase or even a 8phase, it's just a regular board thats false advertized as shit

 

 

Stop putting your nonsense in bold. If you're aware of the z77 extreme4's "cheap" vrm and its overvolting issue of 100mVt: http://www.overclock.net/t/1360404/asrock-z77-series-vcore-reading

This dude did 6.5GHz: full stream here -> http://www.twitch.tv/overclocktv/b/531558440

Now that we know your board isnt going to do any better than a regular Z87 board, your talk was cheap.

 

 

Going against the majority is what you do which makes you wrong. You're kinda a great overclocker, doesnt understand the basics of haswell cooling puts another 120mm*80 rad to cool his haswell cpu which didnt even make the difference.

 

 

i was done with you and your internet links a long time ago.

 

please stop trolling my content!

 

you got nothing little guy, sorry.

[i_build_nanosuits]

I just have to ask if i'm already getting these parts is it really such a bad thing to buy a slightly better moetherboard? Believe me I did consider this exact motherboard I have just always like Asus's products.

no it's not a ''bad thing'' by any means at all as long as you don't make sacrifices on crucial gaming parts to get higher-end pointless motherboards wich are :

1st: GPU

2nd: CPU

If you would have said in the beginning you where already going with a GTX 780 or R9 290 and i5-4670K then the HEro or formula would have made more sence...but Formula + GTX 770 or MSI gaming Z97 + GTX 780 for a gamer? you know wich one i would recommand.

[Guest]

 

No like I said it's all up to the cpu, not the board

 

Explain me how a unstable OC can effect your performance? Go ahead. A proper overclocker wouldn't claim this. For now you're just wrong. 

Sin0822 google him, he has like 15K rep orsomething at OCN and this is his youtube channel explains vrm extremely detailed: https://www.youtube.com/user/sin0822/videos

You're not even on his level and he's pretty much right that your board isn't a true 20 phase or even a 8phase, it's just a regular board thats false advertized as shit

 

 

Stop putting your nonsense in bold. If you're aware of the z77 extreme4's "cheap" vrm and its overvolting issue of 100mVt: http://www.overclock.net/t/1360404/asrock-z77-series-vcore-reading

This dude did 6.5GHz: full stream here -> http://www.twitch.tv/overclocktv/b/531558440

Now that we know your board isnt going to do any better than a regular Z87 board, your talk was cheap.

 

 

Going against the majority is what you do which makes you wrong. You're kinda a great overclocker, doesnt understand the basics of haswell cooling puts another 120mm*80 rad to cool his haswell cpu which didnt even make the difference.

 

Now I know for a fact you are wrong a few of these points:

1. There are overclocking optimized boards for a reason. Though It does depend mainly on the CPU it does not depend entirely on the CPU. Different platforms overclock differently.

2. It only effects stability if improperly done. 

3. A bad board could effect the CPU in the event of a thermal failure or any other kind of failure.

[Guest]

If you would have said in the beginning you where already going with a GTX 780 or R9 290 and i5-4670K then the HEro or formula would have made more sence

I didn't mention this as it was not the point of the forum. I was asking which motherboard was the best by itself.

[i_build_nanosuits]

I didn't mention this as it was not the point of the forum. I was asking which motherboard was the best by itself.

it's all good i totaly get your point we cleared that up yesterday but you asked for a suggestion on a good motherboard to suit your needs wich is what you should have done in the first place so i just decided i would suggest something nice, don't get angry after me again i don't want to make you mad...

[Guest]

it's all good i totaly get your point we cleared that up yesterday but you asked for a suggestion on a good motherboard to suit your needs wich is what you should have done in the first place so i just decided i would suggest something nice, don't get angry after me again i don't want to make you mad...

I'm not mad. This is the internet. The wonderful land where everyone, including me, has the attention span of a gnat. 

[i_build_nanosuits]

BTW...lets say you get a good overclocking i5-4670K chip, the formula will get it to 4.8ghz, and the MSI gaming will get it to... 4.8ghz

[Guest]

BTW...lets say you get a good overclocking i5-4670K chip, the formula will get it to 4.8ghz, and the MSI gaming will get it to 4.8ghz

But the formula look way better. Yes, i'm the idiot who pays for the better looking board. I'm a very shallow person judge me if you will.

[Faa]

Now I know for a fact you are wrong a few of these points:

1. There are overclocking optimized boards for a reason. Though It does depend mainly on the CPU it does not depend entirely on the CPU. Different platforms overclock differently.

2. It only effects stability if improperly done. 

3. A bad board could effect the CPU in the event of a thermal failure or any other kind of failure.

1. Those "optimized" boards are nothing more besides gimmicks. Back in the days when CPU's used a shitload of power lots of phases was needed, now theyre just consuming as good as nothing and vrm designs improve. You don't need anything more than a regular 4 phase for any 24/7 OC. The maximus v formula is 4 phase and the extreme is just a 8phase, google how far formula's could push 2500K's. 

2. CPU's can correct their errors, like one of the many cycles it can correct it what would be like a 0,001% performance loss thats as good as neglible. Uping the vcore will fix this. If the cpu can't correct the error anymore the application will crash or you bsod.

3. Lolwut? 

[i_build_nanosuits]

But the formula look way better. Yes, i'm the idiot who pays for the better looking board. I'm a very shallow person judge me if you will.

no no, it's alright but at least you know what you are paying for, if it's fine to you then fine it is

[i_build_nanosuits]

@Faa

number 3 means if mobo fails CPU may also die with it...thus not likely to happen you are somewhat correct about modern intel CPU's not requiring 882phases board to overclock safely, a bad design motherboard can cost a lot, check reviews before buying/recommanding any motherboards...but in general every z87 or z97 board will support max overclock on haswell i5

[Guest]

3. Lolwut? 

 

1. Those "optimized" boards are nothing more besides gimmicks. Back in the days when CPU's used a shitload of power lots of phases was needed, now theyre just consuming as good as nothing and vrm designs improve. You don't need anything more than a regular 4 phase for any 24/7 OC. The maximus v formula is 4 phase and the extreme is just a 8phase, google how far formula's could push 2500K's. 

2. CPU's can correct their errors, like one of the many cycles it can correct it what would be like a 0,001% performance loss thats as good as neglible. Uping the vcore will fix this. If the cpu can't correct the error anymore the application will crash or you bsod.

3. Lolwut? 

1. No they are not gimmicks. If they where Linus would have pointed it out in one of his videos on them.

2. If it crashes then you overclocked incorrectly. Hench my point.

3. If you don't understand this then stop talking to me.

Now stop trolling and please go away.