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It's been a while since I've had a proper PC. I'm thinking about finally getting some kind of gaming setup in the near future, but I'm so out of the loop that I'm finding it hard to work out what I want to aim for. 

My brain is turning to spaghetti from all the reading I’ve been doing, hence why I decided to come and ask some questions even though I’m still uncertain of what I want. Sorry for not being as coherent as I’d like about what I’m asking!

 

Obviously, ‘future proofing’ isn't always possible, but what kind of price (UK) & specs do you think it would take for a desktop that would (hopefully) have a reasonably easy time with 1080p gaming for a good 5 years? I don’t play AAA games all the time, but I’d like to be able to run them decently when I do feel like playing one.

How much more would it take for a desktop that would cope similarly well with 1440p games? 

And also, how much worse value is it getting a prebuilt at the moment compared to building? I noticed some on Amazon that sound amazing value (https://www.amazon.co.uk/ADMI-Gaming-PC-3-6Ghz-Windows/dp/B07798R425/), but I’m guessing either I’ve misunderstood something about the specs or the rest of the parts are unreasonably low quality.

 

Finally, since I have to deal with some pretty tight space constraints I’m also wondering how much more expensive a good quality laptop that would similarly do well for 5+ years would be?

 

Thank you for taking the time to read this, it’s good of you to be helping people on here.

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i'd err on the side of a very solid AM5 system for a good 5 years of good 1080p gaming... this machine will do 1440p as well, drop settings one click usually.

 

CPU can be upgraded next gen or the gen after, just drop in.  but the AMD 7600 can play anything.  16GB VRAM on the 6800 can handle any AAA game without running out, as is fast enough to produce good frames at 1440p.  Add more SSD as you see fit.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£182.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Motherboard: ASRock B650M PG Lightning Wifi Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (£121.72 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£105.64 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN580 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£59.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card  (£370.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case  (£59.99 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Power Supply: Deepcool PM750D 750 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  (£79.59 @ NeoComputers) 
Total: £979.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-03 18:21 BST+0100

 

Your PC on Amazon is decent for the PRICE< but look at delivery...  That machine isn't worth 950.

 

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"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

Onyx AMD Ryzen 7 7800x3d / MSI 6900xt Gaming X Trio / Gigabyte B650 AORUS Pro AX / G. Skill Flare X5 6000CL36 32GB / Samsung 980 1TB x3 / Super Flower Leadex V Platinum Pro 850 / EK-AIO 360 Basic / Fractal Design North XL (black mesh) / AOC AGON 35" 3440x1440 100Hz / Mackie CR5BT / Corsair Virtuoso SE / Cherry MX Board 3.0 / Logitech G502

 

7800X3D - PBO -30 all cores, 4.90GHz all core, 5.05GHz single core, 18286 C23 multi, 1779 C23 single

 

Emma : i9 9900K @5.1Ghz - Gigabyte AORUS 1080Ti - Gigabyte AORUS Z370 Gaming 5 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200CL16 - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB (RAID0) - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 360mm - Fractal Design Define R6 - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi

 

Raven: AMD Ryzen 5 5600x3d - ASRock B550M Pro4 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3200Mhz - XFX Radeon RX6650XT - Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB - TP-Link AC600 USB Wifi - Gigabyte GP-P450B PSU -  Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L -  Samsung 27" 1080p

 

Plex : AMD Ryzen 5 5600 - Gigabyte B550M AORUS Elite AX - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 2400Mhz - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Crucial P3 Plus 500GB + WD Red NAS 4TBx2 - TP-Link AC1200 PCIe Wifi - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - ASUS Prime AP201 - Spectre 24" 1080p

 

Steam Deck 512GB OLED

 

OnePlus: 

OnePlus 11 5G - 16GB RAM, 256GB NAND, Eternal Green

OnePlus Buds Pro 2 - Eternal Green

 

Other Tech:

- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

Lenovo 720S Touch 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400MHz, 512GB NVMe SSD, 1050Ti, 4K touchscreen

MSI GF62 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400 MHz, 256GB NVMe SSD + 1TB 7200rpm HDD, 1050Ti

- Ubiquiti Amplifi HD mesh wifi

 

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8 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

i'd err on the side of a very solid AM5 system for a good 5 years of good 1080p gaming... this machine will do 1440p as well, drop settings one click usually.

 

CPU can be upgraded next gen or the gen after, just drop in.  but the AMD 7600 can play anything.  16GB VRAM on the 6800 can handle any AAA game without running out, as is fast enough to produce good frames at 1440p.  Add more SSD as you see fit.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£182.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Motherboard: ASRock B650M PG Lightning Wifi Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (£121.72 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£105.64 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN580 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£59.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card  (£370.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case  (£59.99 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Power Supply: Deepcool PM750D 750 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  (£79.59 @ NeoComputers) 
Total: £979.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-03 18:21 BST+0100

 

Your PC on Amazon is decent for the PRICE< but look at delivery...  That machine isn't worth 950.

 

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Thanks for the build. Would that be targeting 60 FPS for AAA games?

Btw, regarding the prebuilt, here in the UK the delivery is free but the main price in £750. I didn’t realise it would be so different for the US.

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2 minutes ago, Robbietalk said:

Thanks for the build. Would that be targeting 60 FPS for AAA games?

Btw, regarding the prebuilt, here in the UK the delivery is free but the main price in £750. I didn’t realise it would be so different for the US.

Yes, always recommend over 60fps for gaming in any build I suggest.  You can get 60fps at 1080p with a 6650XT (system in my sig)  but I took that 5 years out and guessed that a 6800 16GB would be good for 1080p and 1440p then for >60fp as well.  Can't guarantee WHAT fps then, but I would buy that system if I was spending 1000 and had your needs.

 

For the UK price of that system, build it in pcpartpicker to find a baseline PARTS cost, then add what you consider fair for LABOR to build it.  If that suits you, it's a decent deal.  Though I'd take a 6800 over a 4060 all day every day, as well as a 7600 over a 12400.  But the price may be easier to swallow and have a corresponding and acceptable performance reduction for the price paid.

 

You didn't give a hard budget number so I am projecting my own views on this, sorry.

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

Onyx AMD Ryzen 7 7800x3d / MSI 6900xt Gaming X Trio / Gigabyte B650 AORUS Pro AX / G. Skill Flare X5 6000CL36 32GB / Samsung 980 1TB x3 / Super Flower Leadex V Platinum Pro 850 / EK-AIO 360 Basic / Fractal Design North XL (black mesh) / AOC AGON 35" 3440x1440 100Hz / Mackie CR5BT / Corsair Virtuoso SE / Cherry MX Board 3.0 / Logitech G502

 

7800X3D - PBO -30 all cores, 4.90GHz all core, 5.05GHz single core, 18286 C23 multi, 1779 C23 single

 

Emma : i9 9900K @5.1Ghz - Gigabyte AORUS 1080Ti - Gigabyte AORUS Z370 Gaming 5 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200CL16 - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB (RAID0) - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 360mm - Fractal Design Define R6 - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi

 

Raven: AMD Ryzen 5 5600x3d - ASRock B550M Pro4 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3200Mhz - XFX Radeon RX6650XT - Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB - TP-Link AC600 USB Wifi - Gigabyte GP-P450B PSU -  Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L -  Samsung 27" 1080p

 

Plex : AMD Ryzen 5 5600 - Gigabyte B550M AORUS Elite AX - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 2400Mhz - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Crucial P3 Plus 500GB + WD Red NAS 4TBx2 - TP-Link AC1200 PCIe Wifi - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - ASUS Prime AP201 - Spectre 24" 1080p

 

Steam Deck 512GB OLED

 

OnePlus: 

OnePlus 11 5G - 16GB RAM, 256GB NAND, Eternal Green

OnePlus Buds Pro 2 - Eternal Green

 

Other Tech:

- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

Lenovo 720S Touch 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400MHz, 512GB NVMe SSD, 1050Ti, 4K touchscreen

MSI GF62 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400 MHz, 256GB NVMe SSD + 1TB 7200rpm HDD, 1050Ti

- Ubiquiti Amplifi HD mesh wifi

 

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27 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Yes, always recommend over 60fps for gaming in any build I suggest.  You can get 60fps at 1080p with a 6650XT (system in my sig)  but I took that 5 years out and guessed that a 6800 16GB would be good for 1080p and 1440p then for >60fp as well.  Can't guarantee WHAT fps then, but I would buy that system if I was spending 1000 and had your needs.

 

For the UK price of that system, build it in pcpartpicker to find a baseline PARTS cost, then add what you consider fair for LABOR to build it.  If that suits you, it's a decent deal.  Though I'd take a 6800 over a 4060 all day every day, as well as a 7600 over a 12400.  But the price may be easier to swallow and have a corresponding and acceptable performance reduction for the price paid.

 

You didn't give a hard budget number so I am projecting my own views on this, sorry.

Thanks, as I said I’ve been struggling to get a feel for current specs so this is a lot of help.

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1 minute ago, Robbietalk said:

Thanks, as I said I’ve been struggling to get a feel for current specs so this is a lot of help.

No problem at all.  I am sure more people will comment with their opinions and suggestions today or tomorrow.  There are a few more ways to skin a cat 🙂

 

They'll offer other components and hopefully explain why, so you can make the best informed decision.

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

Onyx AMD Ryzen 7 7800x3d / MSI 6900xt Gaming X Trio / Gigabyte B650 AORUS Pro AX / G. Skill Flare X5 6000CL36 32GB / Samsung 980 1TB x3 / Super Flower Leadex V Platinum Pro 850 / EK-AIO 360 Basic / Fractal Design North XL (black mesh) / AOC AGON 35" 3440x1440 100Hz / Mackie CR5BT / Corsair Virtuoso SE / Cherry MX Board 3.0 / Logitech G502

 

7800X3D - PBO -30 all cores, 4.90GHz all core, 5.05GHz single core, 18286 C23 multi, 1779 C23 single

 

Emma : i9 9900K @5.1Ghz - Gigabyte AORUS 1080Ti - Gigabyte AORUS Z370 Gaming 5 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200CL16 - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB (RAID0) - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 360mm - Fractal Design Define R6 - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi

 

Raven: AMD Ryzen 5 5600x3d - ASRock B550M Pro4 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3200Mhz - XFX Radeon RX6650XT - Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB - TP-Link AC600 USB Wifi - Gigabyte GP-P450B PSU -  Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L -  Samsung 27" 1080p

 

Plex : AMD Ryzen 5 5600 - Gigabyte B550M AORUS Elite AX - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 2400Mhz - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Crucial P3 Plus 500GB + WD Red NAS 4TBx2 - TP-Link AC1200 PCIe Wifi - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - ASUS Prime AP201 - Spectre 24" 1080p

 

Steam Deck 512GB OLED

 

OnePlus: 

OnePlus 11 5G - 16GB RAM, 256GB NAND, Eternal Green

OnePlus Buds Pro 2 - Eternal Green

 

Other Tech:

- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

Lenovo 720S Touch 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400MHz, 512GB NVMe SSD, 1050Ti, 4K touchscreen

MSI GF62 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400 MHz, 256GB NVMe SSD + 1TB 7200rpm HDD, 1050Ti

- Ubiquiti Amplifi HD mesh wifi

 

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