Asus B650E-E Gaming With Ryzen 9 7950X/7950X3D or 7900X/7950X3D

[Orodruin]

Hello everyone. I have a 5900X and an Asus Crosshair X570 system. And I will switch to Ryzen 7000 series.

 

I compared my current X570 Crosshair Hero with Asus Strix B650E-E Gaming. Frankly, B650E-E Gaming seems superior in many aspects. While the X570 has a 60A CPU supply, the B650E-E Gaming provides 70A power. And there are more NVME ports USB ports and components.

 

What I want to ask is this; Will Asus B650E-E Gaming cause any problems with 7950X/X3D or 7900X/X3D processors? Especially at the power point? I do rendering and design work with both gaming and CAD/CAM applications. I don't bother with overclocking. I even use the 5900X with PBO turned off.

 

I would be very happy if anyone could give an opinion on this matter.

[MadAnt250]

6 minutes ago, Orodruin said:

I have a 5900X and an Asus Crosshair X570 system. And I will switch to Ryzen 7000 series.

Why? Just why? How is this level of a high performance system not good enough right now?

[Tetras]

10 minutes ago, Orodruin said:

What I want to ask is this; Will Asus B650E-E Gaming cause any problems with 7950X/X3D or 7900X/X3D processors?

No.

 

FYI (included here): 

 

[PDifolco]

14 minutes ago, Orodruin said:

Hello everyone. I have a 5900X and an Asus Crosshair X570 system. And I will switch to Ryzen 7000 series.

 

I compared my current X570 Crosshair Hero with Asus Strix B650E-E Gaming. Frankly, B650E-E Gaming seems superior in many aspects. While the X570 has a 60A CPU supply, the B650E-E Gaming provides 70A power. And there are more NVME ports USB ports and components.

 

What I want to ask is this; Will Asus B650E-E Gaming cause any problems with 7950X/X3D or 7900X/X3D processors? Especially at the power point? I do rendering and design work with both gaming and CAD/CAM applications. I don't bother with overclocking. I even use the 5900X with PBO turned off.

 

I would be very happy if anyone could give an opinion on this matter.

Did some research recently on the AM5 boards as I plan to adopt it when  time will come (I'm also with a 5900X/X570 and don't need to upgrade yet), and also found the B650E-E Strix as one of the overall best board

B650E chipset is more than enough lane wise, X670 isn't really useful 

And this one is pricey but decently so (300EUR), has a ton of features, ok PCie slots (many AM5 boards are sh#t for PCie they converted everything to m2..) and is maybe the only B650 to have a f***g postcode !

 

[Orodruin]

10 minutes ago, MadAnt250 said:

Why? Just why? How is this level of a high performance system not good enough right now?

Already good. But I thought about switching to both the new generation DDR5 and a slightly better new generation processor. I use the processor for rendering work.

[Orodruin]

6 minutes ago, Tetras said:

No.

 

FYI (included here): 

 

Thanks a lot. I will watch this video.

[podkall]

I think someone like @PDifolco can fact check this,

 

A B650 motherboard, could literally be able to run 2 7900Xes with no problem, if it had an option to do so, with nothing more than another CPU socket, the current VRMs on these boards are just that good

[Orodruin]

6 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Did some reseacrh on the AM5 boards as I plan to adopt it "soon", and also found the B650E-E Strix as one of the overall best board

B650 chipset is more than  enough  lane wise, X670 isn't really needed by anyone 

And this one is pricey but decently so (300EUR), has a ton of features, ok PCie slots (many AM5 boards are sh#t for PCie they converted everything to m2..) and is maybe the only B650 to have a f***g postcode !

 

I also looked at the B650E models and this motherboard seemed to be the one with the most hardware. There is also the ASROCK B650E Taichi. But it is very difficult to find it in my country.
It's a more powerful motherboard than the X570 Crosshair model I'm currently using. And its vrm components is even better. There are 4 NVME m2. and lots of USB support.
I just thought about whether it would be a problem to feed the upper processor like the 7950X and wanted to ask him. In the past, some X570, X470 and B450 motherboards seemed to have insufficient VRMs. I know it is very strong in new generations. (B650E, X670E)

[Orodruin]

3 minutes ago, podkall said:

I think someone like @PDifolco can fact check this,

 

A B650 motherboard, could literally be able to run 2 7900Xes with no problem, if it had an option to do so, with nothing more than another CPU socket, the current VRMs on these boards are just that good

Thank you very much for this information. I took a look at the AM5 Tier List online. It says 70A SPS for power supply. This is pretty good I guess. 

[GuiltySpark_]

You don't have to worry about the power of the CPU's unless you're talking the VERY cheapest A620 and B650 boards. For B650, the VERY cheapest. Comparing VRM's on most not bottom of the barrel boards is a waste of time, they're all more than enough. That Asus board itself is overkill in the VRM department as are most AM5 boards. 

 

Pick what's available, has the I/O you want and at that point, is in the color you want. 

 

In my experience, Asrock has the best track record with this generation, I wouldn't touch Asus. That's entirely personal preference from user experiences after owning this platform since launch in late 2022.

[podkall]

2 minutes ago, Orodruin said:

Thank you very much for this information. I took a look at the AM5 Tier List online. It says 70A SPS for power supply. This is pretty good I guess. 

the narrative may be little abstract, but the B650 VRMs are so good on the boards, all the 7000 series CPUs will work on them, power wise, 8000 series probably same story

[MadAnt250]

35 minutes ago, Orodruin said:

Already good. But I thought about switching to both the new generation DDR5 and a slightly better new generation processor. I use the processor for rendering work.

My opinion is to wait for the next Ryzen generation, then decide from there. Prices and other factors may be worth considering by then.

[PDifolco]

1 hour ago, podkall said:

I think someone like @PDifolco can fact check this,

 

A B650 motherboard, could literally be able to run 2 7900Xes with no problem, if it had an option to do so, with nothing more than another CPU socket, the current VRMs on these boards are just that good

Yep sure, all B650 boards have at least good and most often overkill VRMs  

[podkall]

6 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Yep sure, all B650 boards have at least good and most often overkill VRMs  

of course, if we buy the bottom barrel cheapest one, it might only be able to run only one 7900x..

[Orodruin]

On 3/2/2024 at 12:38 AM, GuiltySpark_ said:

You don't have to worry about the power of the CPU's unless you're talking the VERY cheapest A620 and B650 boards. For B650, the VERY cheapest. Comparing VRM's on most not bottom of the barrel boards is a waste of time, they're all more than enough. That Asus board itself is overkill in the VRM department as are most AM5 boards. 

 

Pick what's available, has the I/O you want and at that point, is in the color you want. 

 

In my experience, Asrock has the best track record with this generation, I wouldn't touch Asus. That's entirely personal preference from user experiences after owning this platform since launch in late 2022.

I purchased the B650E-E by following the recommendations on this page.

Frankly, it surprises me that it is better than the previous generation X570Crosshair in terms of power supply. As you said, they have it at a pretty good level. They're not weak like the B550s.

I paired this motherboard with 7900X3D.

But there is a question I want to ask about RAM selection.
In the QVL list of the motherboard, I see Gskill 2X24GB 8000Mhz Trident RGB (coded F5-8000J4048F24GX2-TZ5RK) ram. And will I have any problems if I buy this ram? I want to choose it because it is in the QVL list of the motherboard. But when the speed was 8000mhz, I had some doubts.

There are 6000Mhz rams in the QVL list of the motherboard. There are 2 models with 8000Mhz. There are no other frequencies.

Can you give me an idea?

[Orodruin]

On 3/2/2024 at 12:38 AM, podkall said:

the narrative may be little abstract, but the B650 VRMs are so good on the boards, all the 7000 series CPUs will work on them, power wise, 8000 series probably same story

Thank you very much. Trusting this, I bought the motherboard. And now I paired it with 7900X3D. I will use it for both gaming and rendering work.

But I have doubts about RAM selection. There is a 8000Mhz 2X24GB GSKILL Tridentz RGB (F5-8000J4048F24GX2-TZ5RK) model in the QVL list of the motherboard. Will I have any problems if I buy this RAM? Generally, everyone recommends 6000-6400mhz memories. But ASUS added this 8000Mhz model to the QVL list.

I wasn't exactly sure.

[Orodruin]

On 02.03.2024 at 02:28, PDifolco said:

Evet elbette, tüm B650 anakartlarında en azından iyi ve çoğu zaman aşırı VRM'ler var 

I remember B450 and X470 motherboards. Too bad many of them were powered as VRM. It became good on the upper models of X570s. It was just fine on B550s. But the good ones of the B650s look better than the higher models of the X570s. (Asus B650E-E, ASRock B650 Taichi and Aorus B650E Master).

[podkall]

11 hours ago, Orodruin said:

Thank you very much. Trusting this, I bought the motherboard. And now I paired it with 7900X3D. I will use it for both gaming and rendering work.

But I have doubts about RAM selection. There is a 8000Mhz 2X24GB GSKILL Tridentz RGB (F5-8000J4048F24GX2-TZ5RK) model in the QVL list of the motherboard. Will I have any problems if I buy this RAM? Generally, everyone recommends 6000-6400mhz memories. But ASUS added this 8000Mhz model to the QVL list.

I wasn't exactly sure.

not sure, let me ask someone who might,

 

from my general knowledge, the more you go beyond 6000Mhz on AM5, the more you risk RAM instability, meaning you'd either have to tune the RAM or run it slower, overpaying for speed you won't even use, but let me ask others, because while QVL can support fast speed, a Memory controller of a CPU doesn't always have to...

 

yo guys, any thoughts? @Dedayog @filpo 

[Dedayog]

5 minutes ago, podkall said:

not sure, let me ask someone who might,

 

from my general knowledge, the more you go beyond 6000Mhz on AM5, the more you risk RAM instability, meaning you'd either have to tune the RAM or run it slower, overpaying for speed you won't even use, but let me ask others, because while QVL can support fast speed, a Memory controller of a CPU doesn't always have to...

 

yo guys, any thoughts? @Dedayog @filpo 

You have to go sufficiently above 6000/6400 RAM for it to make sense due to the Infinity Fabric ratio.  8000 would do it but the memory controller isn't mature enough for that stability yet.

 

If you go with the 8000 kit, I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't end up running it at 6400 at the end of the day.

[filpo]

7 minutes ago, podkall said:

not sure, let me ask someone who might,

 

from my general knowledge, the more you go beyond 6000Mhz on AM5, the more you risk RAM instability, meaning you'd either have to tune the RAM or run it slower, overpaying for speed you won't even use, but let me ask others, because while QVL can support fast speed, a Memory controller of a CPU doesn't always have to...

 

yo guys, any thoughts? @Dedayog @filpo 

 

12 hours ago, Orodruin said:

I remember B450 and X470 motherboards. Too bad many of them were powered as VRM. It became good on the upper models of X570s. It was just fine on B550s. But the good ones of the B650s look better than the higher models of the X570s. (Asus B650E-E, ASRock B650 Taichi and Aorus B650E Master).

With the new bios updates it is possible to run 8000mhz ram on a b650 but it won’t perform much better than 6000 cl30 in terms of games and will be much more expensive if I’m not wrong. Cheap yes 32gb 8000 cl38 kit was $176 for only about 0.5ns faster

it’s likely it’ll be less stable as well since 6000 cl30 is more mature than these new high speeds

[podkall]

@Dedayog @filpo

 

not to mention the performance gain in any application will be within a margin of error, you'd be basically paying for miliseconds

[Orodruin]

On 3/5/2024 at 11:31 PM, filpo said:

 

With the new bios updates it is possible to run 8000mhz ram on a b650 but it won’t perform much better than 6000 cl30 in terms of games and will be much more expensive if I’m not wrong. Cheap yes 32gb 8000 cl38 kit was $176 for only about 0.5ns faster

it’s likely it’ll be less stable as well since 6000 cl30 is more mature than these new high speeds

G.Skill 48GB(2x24) TZ5 Neo RGB EXPO 6400mhz CL32 DDR5 Ram (F5-6400J3239F24GX2-TZ5NR)

I bought the model. It works stably without any problems. And I haven't had any problems. Frankly, I understand that the most logical options are the 6000 and 6400mhz memory kits.

[Orodruin]

On 3/5/2024 at 11:44 PM, podkall said:

@Dedayog @filpo

 

not to mention the performance gain in any application will be within a margin of error, you'd be basically paying for miliseconds

As you said, it is also an unnecessary expense.