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CPU vs GPU oriented games

Waderem

Hi 

I just have two questions

1) Are my games CPU or GPU oriented games?

Games that I am playing right now: Valorant, TFT, Tekken 8, Persona 3, GTA 5, COD, Overwatch, Apex, and Yakuza series

2) What's the difference between CPU and GPU oriented games? Like how will I know if my game is CPU oriented or more on the gpu side.

 

I am planning to upgrade my PC that is why I am asking. Thanks to whoever will answer.

 

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I think you overheard someone try to explain things in this way and are focusing on it when its not really relevant. All games rely on the CPU and GPU to some extent but games alone, at least in most cases can't be described in the way you're describing them. At least not as a full rule. What component a game is stressing more comes down to the system they're being played on, the settings and the resolution. 

 

I'd try to detach yourself from trying to put games in to "CPU bound" or "GPU bound" categories as it doesn't adequately answer any questions and is mostly a waste of time without more specific details.

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You can just google if a game is cpu or gpu oriented. For some games, it's not very obvious which one it relies the most on. What is your current system? Generally game mechanics and stuff like that are for the cpu, while graphics are for the gpu.

Edit: should have specified that like guiltyspark said, all games rely on both.

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I think they are all too light for new hardware to be put into either category

 

By looking at the average of many games we can get an idea of what a balanced system would look like. If some games hit the bottleneck on either side first on a balanced system, then we call that CPU or GPU bound. 

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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4 minutes ago, IgniVellex said:

What is your current system?

My cpu is Ryzen 5 3600

Gpu is 1660

I just upgrade my system every 5 years.

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10 minutes ago, Waderem said:

My cpu is Ryzen 5 3600

Gpu is 1660

I just upgrade my system every 5 years.

I would say to upgrade your cpu first, it's a 5 year old mid range cpu.

I can't speak much for nvidia gpus, but people are still rocking 1660 supers, so I would assume a normal 1660 is fine for now.

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when your getting 200fps and lower graphics settings and or resolution and your still getting 200fps its a cpu bottleneck. test it out and you will get your answer. as for upgrading, you have a pretty balanced system, if you want higher fps you will need to upgrade both cpu and gpu although just upgrading gpu will help in demanding titles where say your getting 30fps maxed settings, a cpu upgrade will help if you need higher fps when changing settings does nothing

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If you're satisfied with the current performance, just stick to it? 

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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11 hours ago, IgniVellex said:

I would say to upgrade your cpu first, it's a 5 year old mid range cpu.

I can't speak much for nvidia gpus, but people are still rocking 1660 supers, so I would assume a normal 1660 is fine for now.

The 1660 is not a powerful card but fine if you are okay with low settings on some games.

 

Competitive shooters are usually optimised to work well on lower cards and GTA Online runs like garbage sometimes even on top-tier hardware last I checked (granted, its been a few years), the net code seems to hold the frame rate back.

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11 hours ago, IgniVellex said:

I would say to upgrade your cpu first, it's a 5 year old mid range cpu.

I can't speak much for nvidia gpus, but people are still rocking 1660 supers, so I would assume a normal 1660 is fine for now.

I used to run a 1660 Super and it could get frame drops in the Dragon engine Yakuza games like Kiwami 2 at 1080p with a 60 fps target without turning some settings down, so a regular 1660 probably would too. Easier to run games like Yakuza 0 or Yakuza Kiwami wouldn't be a problem though.

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This question cant be properly answered because some games are more cpu reliant than others, and looking at your list you have both types. 

 

So the only real answer is "both".

 

 

15 hours ago, Waderem said:

Like how will I know if my game is CPU oriented or more on the gpu side.

you use afterburner overlay,  showing *all* relevant information,  especially cpu cores.

 

like so

 

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