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Dell Optiplex systems have fallen very far from being a good choice for budget gaming. I work with these systems daily. The PSUs are not standard making it very hard to get a PSU in them that would even support a GPU that requires PSU power.

The SFF x16 PCIe slot is often at the bottom of the Motherboard so a single slot card is the only thing you would be able to put in it anyways.

 

I used a 5060 for this purpose and the best specs weren't great.

GTX 1050 ti (Best you could do is a GTX 1650 Low Profile maybe)

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16883461069?Item=9SIAZ8YHUK5570

DELL Business Desktop OptiPlex 7050-SFF Intel Core i7 7th Gen 7700 (3.60GHz) 32GB DDR4 1 TB SSD Intel HD Graphics 630 Windows 10 Pro 64-bit

 

These Dell refurb units on Newegg right now at $289 could be an excellent way to get a budget gamer build going. One of these and something like a 6800xt is a cheap way to go. I bought 4 of them for my business, but realized that those looking for a budget gaming build might also be interested. I wouldn't mind seeing what LTT could accomplish with like a sub $500 build and starting with one of these. Seems like not a bad way to go?

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Yeahhhhh you're not shoving a 6800XT in one of those. An RX 6500 sure, but any full-height cards are an immediate no-go unless you absolutely love janky ass workarounds. Unfortunately it's not even a great deal on a 7050, they typically go for about $200 or less on the second-hand market from what I remember.

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1 minute ago, RebornMinnow said:

One of these and something like a 6800xt is a cheap way to go

When you find a half height 6800 xt shoot me a pm

 

2 minutes ago, RebornMinnow said:

Seems like not a bad way to go?

It's not that bad but $300? There's better things on the used market. It does have a nice amount of ram and storage but the cpu isn't powerful enough for a 6800 xt if you can find one that's half height (which you can't) 

the rtx 4060 low profile might be a good option tho

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3 minutes ago, RebornMinnow said:

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16883461069?Item=9SIAZ8YHUK5570

DELL Business Desktop OptiPlex 7050-SFF Intel Core i7 7th Gen 7700 (3.60GHz) 32GB DDR4 1 TB SSD Intel HD Graphics 630 Windows 10 Pro 64-bit

 

These Dell refurb units on Newegg right now at $289 could be an excellent way to get a budget gamer build going. One of these and something like a 6800xt is a cheap way to go. 

 

In a SFF case with a 180W PSU?

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I wouldn't say this is a great deal. Its a 6 ish year old system that doesn't support windows 11. The SFF model isn't great for budget gaming as it doesn't fit full heigh GPUs. The low profile GPU market is pretty limited. The board also uses non standard power connectors so that limits PSU upgrade options.

 

I also can find the same model with similar specs on ebay for cheaper, and it isn't sold by newegg, its a 3rd party using the marketplace.

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1 minute ago, flibberdipper said:

Yeahhhhh you're not shoving a 6800XT in one of those. An RX 6500 sure, but any full-height cards are an immediate no-go unless you absolutely love janky ass workarounds. Unfortunately it's not even a great deal on a 7050, they typically go for about $200 or less on the second-hand market from what I remember.

Was gonna say, $300 seems overpriced for this kind of machine. Especially SFF ones, they're neat towers but horrible for trying to fit a decent GPU into. Being PCIe 3.0 sucks with the best tiny cards wanting 4.0 to run properly too. 

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2 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Its a 6 ish year old system that doesn't support windows 11

To be fair though, as long as nothing breaks in a new and comical way, it'll run it surprisingly well. I've got 11 on my capture box which is an OptiPlex 7020 which has a 4590, and it runs super well. Here before long I'll probably clean install my "totally legal torrent ripping box" which is a Precision 3420/i5 6500 to it as well.

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300$ for a 150$ ebay machine maybe but the only standout point is some cheap extra ram.

 

Also there is literally no way to put a 6800xt in there at all.

 

300$ used gets you a ryzen base system if not an older ryzen gaming machine.

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Easy mistake to make due to Intel marketing but when looking at older PCs, pay way less attention to "i7" (almost no attention at all) and way more attention to "7th gen 7700".

A new i3 will blow an ancient i7 out of the water.

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29 minutes ago, RebornMinnow said:

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16883461069?Item=9SIAZ8YHUK5570

DELL Business Desktop OptiPlex 7050-SFF Intel Core i7 7th Gen 7700 (3.60GHz) 32GB DDR4 1 TB SSD Intel HD Graphics 630 Windows 10 Pro 64-bit

 

These Dell refurb units on Newegg right now at $289 could be an excellent way to get a budget gamer build going. One of these and something like a 6800xt is a cheap way to go. I bought 4 of them for my business, but realized that those looking for a budget gaming build might also be interested. I wouldn't mind seeing what LTT could accomplish with like a sub $500 build and starting with one of these. Seems like not a bad way to go?

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Dell Optiplex systems have fallen very far from being a good choice for budget gaming. I work with these systems daily. The PSUs are not standard making it very hard to get a PSU in them that would even support a GPU that requires PSU power.

The SFF x16 PCIe slot is often at the bottom of the Motherboard so a single slot card is the only thing you would be able to put in it anyways.

 

I used a 5060 for this purpose and the best specs weren't great.

GTX 1050 ti (Best you could do is a GTX 1650 Low Profile maybe)

i7-8700

64GB DDR4 RAM

1x M.2 NVMe drive

1x 2.5" SSD

1x 3.5" HDD

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14 hours ago, stevecole90099 said:

Dell Optiplex systems have fallen very far from being a good choice for budget gaming. I work with these systems daily. The PSUs are not standard making it very hard to get a PSU in them that would even support a GPU that requires PSU power.

The SFF x16 PCIe slot is often at the bottom of the Motherboard so a single slot card is the only thing you would be able to put in it anyways.

 

I used a 5060 for this purpose and the best specs weren't great.

GTX 1050 ti (Best you could do is a GTX 1650 Low Profile maybe)

i7-8700

64GB DDR4 RAM

1x M.2 NVMe drive

1x 2.5" SSD

1x 3.5" HDD

Correct and there aren't really psu adapters for them right now as they use a messed up version of the atx 12v standard so that also limits changing the psu even in the towers.

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On 12/6/2023 at 2:34 PM, flibberdipper said:

Yeahhhhh you're not shoving a 6800XT in one of those. An RX 6500 sure, but any full-height cards are an immediate no-go unless you absolutely love janky ass workarounds. Unfortunately it's not even a great deal on a 7050, they typically go for about $200 or less on the second-hand market from what I remember.

Yeah, I shouldn't have mentioned sticking a 6800 in it. A 6500 sized card would fit I'd think? The power supply would definitely be an issue as well. 

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On 12/7/2023 at 7:55 AM, jaslion said:

Correct and there aren't really psu adapters for them right now as they use a messed up version of the atx 12v standard so that also limits changing the psu even in the towers.

Yeah, I wasn't sure if the PSU would be a realistic swap on one of these or not. 

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On 12/6/2023 at 2:34 PM, filpo said:

When you find a half height 6800 xt shoot me a pm

 

It's not that bad but $300? There's better things on the used market. It does have a nice amount of ram and storage but the cpu isn't powerful enough for a 6800 xt if you can find one that's half height (which you can't) 

the rtx 4060 low profile might be a good option tho

Used market for a DIY gaming rig is probably the way to go for that price. My use case was different. I needed 4 ready to go desktops for our business (service advisor and tech stations for a shop) and we stumbled across these. 

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Just now, RebornMinnow said:

Yeah, I shouldn't have mentioned sticking a 6800 in it. A 6500 sized card would fit I'd think? The power supply would definitely be an issue as well. 

Yeah it's either the 6500 or the 6400, I can't remember myself. Realistically the PSU shouldn't be an issue, even with an i7 in there and whatever half-height card you want, be it 1050Ti, 1650, or A2000, you're still not really pushing it all that hard. IIRC this generation moved to a 180w PSU instead of the 210w like my 7010 has, but even then if you assume each one draws 75w you're still at 150w. You'd pretty much have to load it up with internal and USB hard drives to push it over the edge.

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2 minutes ago, flibberdipper said:

Yeah it's either the 6500 or the 6400, I can't remember myself. Realistically the PSU shouldn't be an issue, even with an i7 in there and whatever half-height card you want, be it 1050Ti, 1650, or A2000, you're still not really pushing it all that hard. IIRC this generation moved to a 180w PSU instead of the 210w like my 7010 has, but even then if you assume each one draws 75w you're still at 150w. You'd pretty much have to load it up with internal and USB hard drives to push it over the edge.

Gotcha, I appreciate the info. I ended up buying four of them to use as some cheap workstations for our business. Could be interesting to try and stick something like a 1650 in one of them. I'm completely unfamiliar with this board style. 

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2 hours ago, RebornMinnow said:

Gotcha, I appreciate the info. I ended up buying four of them to use as some cheap workstations for our business. Could be interesting to try and stick something like a 1650 in one of them. I'm completely unfamiliar with this board style. 

Yeah with the right upgrades they're pretty solid. I'd love to get one of the SFF Dell's that has a blower CPU cooler and shove an A2000 into it as well. Should have decent thermals and it'll make fun sounds.

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On 12/6/2023 at 9:34 PM, flibberdipper said:

Yeahhhhh you're not shoving a 6800XT in one of those. An RX 6500 sure, but any full-height cards are an immediate no-go unless you absolutely love janky ass workarounds. Unfortunately it's not even a great deal on a 7050, they typically go for about $200 or less on the second-hand market from what I remember.

there are 4070 low profile cards tho, for example? 

 

i mean, i dunno if this is a good deal, but i think ya'll dismissed it way too fast. 

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2 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

there are 4070 low profile cards tho, for example? 

 

i mean, i dunno if this is a good deal, but i think ya'll dismissed it way too fast. 

I'm pretty well versed in small PCs. The fastest bus-powered cards you're fitting in there are a Quadro RTX A2000, 1650 Super, RX 6400, or A380, the latter two of which will be severely limited by the fact that it's a 6 year old platform that doesn't support things they need to perform correctly. You could, technically, fit the Gigabyte RTX 4060 LP in there, but you'd need to find a TFX PSU with adequate wattage/connectors, and then adapt the ever loving hell out of it since Dell stopped using standard power connectors starting with Haswell.

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3 minutes ago, flibberdipper said:

I'm pretty well versed in small PCs. The fastest bus-powered cards you're fitting in there are a Quadro RTX A2000, 1650 Super, RX 6400, or A380, the latter two of which will be severely limited by the fact that it's a 6 year old platform that doesn't support things they need to perform correctly. You could, technically, fit the Gigabyte RTX 4060 LP in there, but you'd need to find a TFX PSU with adequate wattage/connectors, and then adapt the ever loving hell out of it since Dell stopped using standard power connectors starting with Haswell.

ah it was a 4060lp then...

 

i am very well versed in watching DDTS videos and he does stuff like that all the time... several videos about optiplex etc... 

latest one was the proposition to use one of these *in the future* when u get them for dirt cheap... basically he simulated it lol...

 

 

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