5800x3d is it worth for my usage

[Hunlight]

Hello,

 

Watched quite a few videos and everyone sayin different stuff so though of ask on the best forum in the world for few more opinions!

 

My resolution: 3440x1440

My current gpu: 3080 10gb (might change to 3090 in the future but not now)

my cooling is 240mm AIO I believe it was deepcool.

My current cpu: 3600 no OC, regular boost

 

My usage: mainly gaming 99% time, target is 100fps+ (monitor is 100hz). After I switched from 1080ti to 3080 in some games I ply I noticed fps barely changed thats when I found out those titles are cpu intensive and even one core performance is a must.

 

So I thought of getting 5800x3d but then  I would probably need new cooling as people even on 360mm AIOs without any bios tweaks etc saying getting up to 90C+

 

Then I found few suggestions here on the forum where users offered to look into 5700x as a cheaper, cooler and similar performance model.

 

So my question is should I go for 5800x3d plus new cooling(which one then?) or 5700x would be enough for any gaming and difference is not that big actually.

[191x7]

On a resolution that high, the difference between a 5700X or 5800X3D do not matter.

The only thing the 5800X3D does is - it improves on the smoothness in many games, especially with a stronger GPU on a lower resolution.

[WereCat]

Just get the 5800X3D, you don't need to upgrade cooling. The CPU runs hot at full load, yes... But in games it usually sips power. 

 

And yes, you can use curve optimizer offset to lower the temp. 

[Hunlight]

8 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

On a resolution that high, the difference between a 5700X or 5800X3D do not matter.

The only thing the 5800X3D does is - it improves on the smoothness in many games, especially with a stronger GPU on a lower resolution.

indeed more I check tests more I noticed that on 1440p+ resolution difference between them is not that much, but x3d having higher 1% and just over all smoother framerates, so that might be selling point for me. But price wise x3d is almost double the price (something around 170 vs 320eur or around that)

[Hunlight]

8 minutes ago, WereCat said:

Just get the 5800X3D, you don't need to upgrade cooling. The CPU runs hot at full load, yes... But in games it usually sips power. 

 

And yes, you can use curve optimizer offset to lower the temp. 

hmmm, I just think if x3d is worth the price its around 320eur vs 5700x going for around 170-180eur.

[WereCat]

1 minute ago, Hunlight said:

hmmm, I just think if x3d is worth the price its around 320eur vs 5700x going for around 170-180eur.

If you only care about average fps then no. 

IMO the more consistent frametimes are worth it

[Hunlight]

Just now, WereCat said:

If you only care about average fps then no. 

IMO the more consistent frametimes are worth it

IF framerates are like 200 average then no 1% doesnt matter as in those games fps wont drop THAT low. but on the other hand in games where it will be around 100 and dipping to mid 40s lets say its noticeable. soo yeah I think X3D is the way. the price just destroys it for me atm.

[WereCat]

3 minutes ago, Hunlight said:

IF framerates are like 200 average then no 1% doesnt matter as in those games fps wont drop THAT low. but on the other hand in games where it will be around 100 and dipping to mid 40s lets say its noticeable. soo yeah I think X3D is the way. the price just destroys it for me atm.

Well yes, depending on what kind of games you play the X3D may be a big factor or none at all. 

[Hunlight]

8 minutes ago, WereCat said:

Well yes, depending on what kind of games you play the X3D may be a big factor or none at all. 

Different titles depending on time of the year. Path of exile, Stalker Gamma, Hunt showdown, Battlefield, ALOT of 7 days to die, random other survival games and of course bunch of single player games like lets say Resident evil Village or Cyberpunk(gonna play it for the first time after update), Assasin valhalla, Dying light 2 etc etc.

[WereCat]

13 minutes ago, Hunlight said:

Different titles depending on time of the year. Path of exile, Stalker Gamma, Hunt showdown, Battlefield, ALOT of 7 days to die, random other survival games and of course bunch of single player games like lets say Resident evil Village or Cyberpunk(gonna play it for the first time after update), Assasin valhalla, Dying light 2 etc etc.

Seems like you're fine with 5700X for the most part. 

 

Usually Battleroyales, Survival, MMO, Strategy/Sim games benefit a lot from X3D. 

[Hunlight]

6 minutes ago, WereCat said:

Seems like you're fine with 5700X for the most part. 

 

Usually Battleroyales, Survival, MMO, Strategy/Sim games benefit a lot from X3D. 

yeah I play quite a few survival games and mmos. battleroyals mby few times a year and strategy is barely.

[191x7]

Single player games are not something I'd get a 5800X3D for. Not worth it.

Only multiplayer games in which you don't want to see huge framerate fluctuations. Shooters. 

Cause if you drop from 200 to 150 fps, that's a 25% drop and that's noticeable. 

 

[Hunlight]

10 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Single player games are not something I'd get a 5800X3D for. Not worth it.

Only multiplayer games in which you don't want to see huge framerate fluctuations. Shooters. 

Cause if you drop from 200 to 150 fps, that's a 25% drop and that's noticeable. 

 

I never had 250 fps in shooters I play so I do not know how it feels. in hunt showdown with 3600 and 3080 I barely getting 80-100 fps± 

[Mark Kaine]

1 hour ago, Hunlight said:

I never had 250 fps in shooters I play so I do not know how it feels. in hunt showdown with 3600 and 3080 I barely getting 80-100 fps± 

330fps in ow aint that much different to 165 or 120... its all placebo effects  especially above your monitors refresh rate.

 

 

 

 

[Hunlight]

8 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

330fps in ow aint that much different to 165 or 120... its all placebo effects  especially above your monitors refresh rate.

 

 

 

 

true. I did notice difference from 60 to 100 as my monitors shows 100hz, but beyond that no difference.