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10 minutes ago, RevGAM said:

Either is fine, although I believe OC GCs offer you more control. I'm sure Holly will have much better info.

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But i mean are factory OC cards more proned to way smaller lifespans ?

 

I usually always tried to avoid OC cards or OC-ing my own card.

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7 minutes ago, Some guy on LTT forums said:

well now that is your plan, get the best gpu you can and upgrade cpu at a later time.

but im concerned by the time you get a cpu the 12gb wont cut it in newer games... lol.

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Well i'm gaming at 1080p and i don't really plan on going to 1440p or 4K so the RTX 3060 - 12 GB VRAM should be enough.

 

Games seem to eat more and more VRAM especially the newer ones.

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5 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

@RevGAM

 

But i mean are factory OC cards more proned to way smaller lifespans ?

 

I usually always tried to avoid OC cards or OC-ing my own card.

Admittedly, I have less understanding of this than @hollyh88. I suggest, however, that there is virtually no problem with OCing as long as you research fully how to do it properly, take steps to prevent high temperatures and other things that WILL shorten the lifespan, and don't OC it to the point of instability.

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2 minutes ago, RevGAM said:

Admittedly, I have less understanding of this than @hollyh88. I suggest, however, that there is virtually no problem with OCing as long as you research fully how to do it properly, take steps to prevent high temperatures and other things that WILL shorten the lifespan, and don't OC it to the point of instability.

@RevGAM

 

No no, not what i meant - i don't OC cards at all.

 

The ASUS TUF RTX 3060 i found says it's in description it's an OC model but i am guessing it's factory OC.

 

If it's factory OC like from the manufacturer - would it have higher temps or shorter lifespan ?

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40 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

@hollyh88

 

@RevGAM

 

Sorry kinda confused about something.

 

I'm seeing for example some vendors have the same GPU but in 2 variants : REGULAR and OC.

 

I know OC means it's factory oveclocked but is it safer to buy an OC GPU even if it's new ?

 

From what i know overclocking a GPU usually reduces it's lifespan.

oc is just a fancy word after the name for a card that indeed comes a biter higher clocked out of the gate. But its completely safe. no reasons to worry about it. They (every gpu) are after all, ALWAYS higher clocked out the gate. some (oc models) just a bit higher and its still fine

 

17 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

@RevGAM

 

But i mean are factory OC cards more proned to way smaller lifespans ?

 

I usually always tried to avoid OC cards or OC-ing my own card.

no they arent unless you yourself do something terribly wrong to them which i doubt you will do.

you only have to oc a card if its not doing the perf you want it to do anymore or if you know what you are doing and have no problems with ocing

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1 minute ago, hollyh88 said:

oc is just a fancy word after the name for a card that indeed comes a biter higher clocked out of the gate. But its completely safe. no reasons to worry about it. They (every gpu) are after all, ALWAYS higher clocked out the gate. some (oc models) just a bit higher and its still fine

 

no they arent unless you yourself do something terribly wrong to them which i doubt you will do.

you only have to oc a card if its not doing the perf you want it to do anymore or if you know what you are doing and have no problems with ocing

@hollyh88

 

So if that ASUS TUF RTX 3060 i found is factory OC it shouldn't be any problem right ?

 

I mean it won't die way faster, it should last as long as any GPU right?

 

I saw it has a 3 year warranty.

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8 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

@hollyh88

 

So if that ASUS TUF RTX 3060 i found is factory OC it shouldn't be any problem right ?

 

I mean it won't die way faster, it should last as long as any GPU right?

 

I saw it has a 3 year warranty.

yes unless you destroy it yourself

it wont, unless you destroy it yourself 😉 leave at stock if you dont want to mess with it.

3 years is nice.

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1 minute ago, hollyh88 said:

yes unless you destroy it yourself

it wont, unless you destroy it yourself 😉 leave at stock if you dont want to mess with it.

3 years is nice.

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I mean that's the thing it's factory OC.

 

I'm not gonna mess with it at all. 😁😇

 

But if it's factory OC like isn't stock supposed to be not overclocked ?

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On 9/12/2023 at 7:41 PM, Mikey89 said:

@RevGAM

 

Aren't those 3 the best ones ?

 

If you can name a few more i'd appreciate it - over the years i kinda stayed away from GAINWARD and PALIT because they seem to be worse in terms of quality.

MSI actually has a horrible reputation as an AIB.

 

Some of there models are great but they really do create some crap aswell.

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8 hours ago, Mikey89 said:

@hollyh88

 

I mean that's the thing it's factory OC.

 

I'm not gonna mess with it at all. 😁😇

 

But if it's factory OC like isn't stock supposed to be not overclocked ?

A gpu will always oc. It auto overclocks or "boosts" on its own. Some just boost higher than the other with a higher value set by manufacturers like msi and such

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11 hours ago, Bagzie said:

MSI actually has a horrible reputation as an AIB.

 

Some of there models are great but they really do create some crap aswell.

@Bagzie

 

Yeah I heard MSI doesn't really have a good rep when it comes to GPUs.

 

Right now my options are : ASUS, GIGABYTE, ZOTAC.

 

I'm kinda leaning towards an ASUS TUF model I found.

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8 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

@Bagzie

 

Yeah I heard MSI doesn't really have a good rep when it comes to GPUs.

 

Right now my options are : ASUS, GIGABYTE, ZOTAC.

 

I'm kinda leaning towards an ASUS TUF model I found.

Why not Sapphire and PowerColor?

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59 minutes ago, RevGAM said:

Why not Sapphire and PowerColor?

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Sapphire doesn't make Nvidia GPUs anymore, they haven't released any in years.

 

PowerColor - never heard of them.

 

EDIT

 

I googled PowerColor - they don't make Nvidia GPUs.

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7 hours ago, hollyh88 said:

A gpu will always oc. It auto overclocks or "boosts" on its own. Some just boost higher than the other with a higher value set by manufacturers like msi and such

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Wanted to ask you something because i only noticed this now.

 

The ASUS TUF RTX 3060 i was looking at has 5 video outputs :

 

- 4 ports are placed horizontally on the back of the card

- 1 port, i believe it's HDMI is placed right above those 4 ports

 

Will that cause any issues when i install it in my case ?

 

My GTX 1660 SUPER has only 4 ports, it doesn't have any above - im wondering about the size and if it will fit ?

 

I am really worried about installing the GPU. 😟

 

I want to do it myself but i never actually installed other GPUs before. 😰

 

I only heard it's pretty easy that you place the GPU in the MOBO's slot and then connect the power cable - sorry if i sound like a noob but i'm not that good with hardware.

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2 hours ago, Mikey89 said:

@hollyh88

 

Wanted to ask you something because i only noticed this now.

 

The ASUS TUF RTX 3060 i was looking at has 5 video outputs :

 

- 4 ports are placed horizontally on the back of the card

- 1 port, i believe it's HDMI is placed right above those 4 ports

 

Will that cause any issues when i install it in my case ?

 

My GTX 1660 SUPER has only 4 ports, it doesn't have any above - im wondering about the size and if it will fit ?

 

I am really worried about installing the GPU. 😟

 

I want to do it myself but i never actually installed other GPUs before. 😰

 

I only heard it's pretty easy that you place the GPU in the MOBO's slot and then connect the power cable - sorry if i sound like a noob but i'm not that good with hardware.

will be no problem

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29 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

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Thanks !! 🙂

 

Any advice on how to install the GPU like physically ?

 

I'm kinda hoping i won't fuck up something. 😰

the same way you installed the 1660 🙂 

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6 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

@hollyh88

 

I didn't install the GTX 1660 SUPER. 😁

 

A tech service where i live did - they said it was free because i had bought other parts from them back then.


first this,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrXSLaSRkw8&t=184s&pp=ygUOaG93IHRvIHVzZSBkZHU%3D


than this,

 

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3 minutes ago, hollyh88 said:

@hollyh88

 

Wait hold up !!

 

The dude in that video mentions the correct power cables for the GPU.

 

Are the ones i'm using for the GTX 1660 SUPER good for the upcoming RTX 3060 ?

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On 9/12/2023 at 9:23 AM, Mikey89 said:

Yeah i'll be sure to give you a call once i'm all set up there.

 

Jokes aside though im not sure i actually need something more than a 3060 Ti or 3070 for 1080p gaming.

 

Mainly because so far the current CPU is doing it's job.

With modern titles coming out even for 1080p I wouldn't want a card with less than 12GB VRAM.  IMO anything less is a "waste".  I'd rather stick with AMD if you were looking at last-generation cards.  Unless of course there is a good deal on a used 3090ti.

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1 minute ago, Mikey89 said:

@hollyh88

 

I probably didn't explain it well.

 

I meant to say : are the current cables from my PSU good to use if i switch from the 1660 super to the 3060 ?

 

I mean can i just replace GPUs without messing with the cables too much ?

yes both use 1 8pin power connector.

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