Possible GPU upgrade ?

[filpo]

1 minute ago, Mikey89 said:

But we're those 2 websites accurate though ?

not really. Bottleneck calculators aren't reliable since it depends heavily on the game and the silicon lottery too

[Mikey89]

8 minutes ago, filpo said:

not really. Bottleneck calculators aren't reliable since it depends heavily on the game and the silicon lottery too

@filpo

 

Oh ok.

 

Also how much does the bus matter ?

 

I saw the 3060 has 192 bit while the 4060 has 128 bit.

[filpo]

2 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

Also how much does the bus matter ?

for you it might matter a bit since the lane width is only x8

 

2 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

I saw the 3060 has 192 bit while the 4060 has 128 bit.

on second thought the 3060 12gb asus tuf might be better for you

[Mikey89]

2 minutes ago, filpo said:

for you it might matter a bit since the lane width is only x8

 

on second thought the 3060 12gb asus tuf might be better for you

@filpo

 

Matter like in what way ?

 

Also I'm screwed aren't I ?

[filpo]

Just now, Mikey89 said:

Matter like in what way ?

because your cpu is only pcie gen 3. You might get worse performance with a 4060 rather than a 3060 12gb

 

1 minute ago, Mikey89 said:

Also I'm screwed aren't I ?

no you're not. I'd just get the 3060 12gb asus tuf instead

[Mikey89]

5 minutes ago, filpo said:

because your cpu is only pcie gen 3. You might get worse performance with a 4060 rather than a 3060 12gb

 

no you're not. I'd just get the 3060 12gb asus tuf instead

@filpo

 

But when googling says it's PCIe gen 4

 

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1485462-REG/amd_100_100000031box_ryzen_5_3600_3_6.html

 

 

[filpo]

2 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

@filpo

 

But when googling says it's PCIe gen 4

 

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1485462-REG/amd_100_100000031box_ryzen_5_3600_3_6.html

 

 

But do you have a b450 or a b550?

[Mikey89]

2 minutes ago, filpo said:

But do you have a b450 or a b550?

@filpo

 

GIGABYTE B550M DS3H

 

According to GIGABYTE on their website says it's PCIe gen 4

 

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B550M-DS3H-rev-15#kf

 

 

[filpo]

Just now, Mikey89 said:

According to GIGABYTE on their website says it's PCIe gen 4

 

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B550M-DS3H-rev-15#kf

then it could be fine with the rtx 4060 too. It's your choice. A 4060 would be better but a 3060 12gb does have more vram

[Mikey89]

8 minutes ago, filpo said:

then it could be fine with the rtx 4060 too. It's your choice. A 4060 would be better but a 3060 12gb does have more vram

@filpo

 

Well DLSS 3 and frame generation are really tempting.

 

A buddy of mine who build PCs on a regular basis told me I should get the 4060 instead of the 3060 because of 3 reasons when I asked him yesterday

 

1) the 4060 gets 10-15 FPS natively in gaming over the 3060 without DLSS

 

2) the 4060 has DLSS 3 and frame generation and the 3060 only DLSS 2.2 and no frame gen

 

3) lower power draw

[TPCEA]

1 hour ago, Mikey89 said:

@filpo

 

Well DLSS 3 and frame generation are really tempting.

 

A buddy of mine who build PCs on a regular basis told me I should get the 4060 instead of the 3060 because of 3 reasons when I asked him yesterday

 

1) the 4060 gets 10-15 FPS natively in gaming over the 3060 without DLSS

 

2) the 4060 has DLSS 3 and frame generation and the 3060 only DLSS 2.2 and no frame gen

 

3) lower power draw

Then go with the 4060. Just do it.

[Mikey89]

18 minutes ago, RevGAM said:

Then go with the 4060. Just do it.

@RevGAM

 

You mean like this ?

 

 

 

 

[TPCEA]

Just now, Mikey89 said:

@RevGAM

 

You mean like this ?

 

 

 

 

Um, maybe with less pooping motions.

[Mikey89]

1 minute ago, RevGAM said:

Um, maybe with less pooping motions.

@RevGAM

 

Oh it's gonna be pooping time once I'm with the GPU in my hands while trying to mount the damn thing for the first time believe me.

[Bagzie]

2 hours ago, Mikey89 said:

@filpo

 

Well DLSS 3 and frame generation are really tempting.

 

A buddy of mine who build PCs on a regular basis told me I should get the 4060 instead of the 3060 because of 3 reasons when I asked him yesterday

 

1) the 4060 gets 10-15 FPS natively in gaming over the 3060 without DLSS

 

2) the 4060 has DLSS 3 and frame generation and the 3060 only DLSS 2.2 and no frame gen

 

3) lower power draw

DLSS works on all RTX cards , There seems to be some misconception floating around about this because it was released with frame generation but even the RTX2060 will support DLSS 3.5.

 

 

[Mikey89]

@filpo

 

@RevGAM

 

Guys i'm sorry i might have forgotten 3 important things although they are unrelated.

 

1) after i finish up physically installing the GPU inside the PC - do i have to go into BIOS to make changes or any other software changes ?  I know i to install the correct GPU drivers but apart from those do i need to do anything else ?

 

2) if i install the GPU myself am i voiding the GPU's warranty ?

 

3) this is unrelated but i couldn't found much info on it - with the current PC case i have i noticed every time i turn ON the PC or everytime i RESTART it for windows updates etc, all the fans rev up or ramp up. Is this normal, i mean should that be happening ? Kinda hoping this doesn't screw up the fans themselves.

[TPCEA]

18 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

@filpo

 

@RevGAM

 

Guys i'm sorry i might have forgotten 2 important things although they are unrelated.

 

1) after i finish up physically installing the GPU inside the PC - do i have to go into BIOS to make changes or any other software changes ?  I know i to install the correct GPU drivers but apart from those do i need to do anything else ?

 

2) this is unrelated but i couldn't found much info on it - with the current PC case i have i noticed every time i turn ON the PC or everytime i RESTART it for windows updates etc, all the fans rev up or ramp up. Is this normal, i mean should that be happening ? Kinda hoping this doesn't screw up the fans themselves.

1. You should check to see what settings are in BIOS, including Resizable BAR, which can be used by your GC.
2. That is normal.

[Mikey89]

Just now, RevGAM said:

1. You should check to see what settings are in BIOS, including Resizable BAR, which can be used by your GC.
2. That is normal.

@RevGAM

 

Also if i install the GPU myself physically - do i void the GPU's warranty by doing that ?

 

But i mean usually after installing the GPU is it necessary to go in the BIOS to set up something else ?

[TPCEA]

6 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

@RevGAM

 

Also if i install the GPU myself physically - do i void the GPU's warranty by doing that ?

 

But i mean usually after installing the GPU is it necessary to go in the BIOS to set up something else ?

No.

 

Yes.

[filpo]

44 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

do i have to go into BIOS to make changes or any other software changes ?

nope

 

44 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

if i install the GPU myself am i voiding the GPU's warranty ?

no

 

45 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

Is this normal, i mean should that be happening ?

yes, if it's just for a few seconds then yes

[Mikey89]

20 minutes ago, filpo said:

nope

 

no

 

yes, if it's just for a few seconds then yes

@filpo

 

@RevGAM

 

So after i install the GPU physically i can just boot into windows and install the drivers with GeForce Experience and that about it correct ?

[TPCEA]

34 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

@filpo

 

@RevGAM

 

So after i install the GPU physically i can just boot into windows and install the drivers with GeForce Experience and that about it correct ?

As we both answered to your BIOS question, you should go into BIOS first to ensure full implementation of features. ReBAR (Resizable BAR) and there's at least one other (4G?) feature you may need to change.

[filpo]

2 minutes ago, RevGAM said:

ReBAR (Resizable BAR) and there's at least one other (4G?) f

Rebar is only supported on ryzen 5000 and upfor nvidia gpus but you’re right about that ‘above 4g decoding’ bit

[Mikey89]

11 minutes ago, filpo said:

Rebar is only supported on ryzen 5000 and upfor nvidia gpus but you’re right about that ‘above 4g decoding’ bit

@filpo

 

@RevGAM

 

Uhm... what exactly are rebar and 4G ?

 

And is it necesary to configure them after i install the GPU ?

 

Also how many features are there that i have to change in the BIOS and which ones ?

[filpo]

6 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

rebar

Not really important, it’s just so that the cpu can access the video memory in bigger chunks rather than in intervals of 256mb. But it doesn’t really matter for performance

 

6 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

4G

‘Above 4G decoding’ is so that you can access more than 4 gigs of vram per device

 

6 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

And is it necesary to configure them after i install the GPU ?

I would defo turn on above 4g decoding but you don’t need to straight away. Just enable it before you test a game

6 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

Also how many features are there that i have to change in the BIOS and which ones ?

After installing the gpu that’s it. Ignore rebar since your cpu doesn’t support it anyway