Possible GPU upgrade ?

[Mikey89]

Hi

 

So i am currently on an ASUS ROG STRIX GTX 1660 SUPER and was thinking of upgrading.

 

I was looking at these GPUs:

 

- RTX 3060 Ti

- RTX 3070

- RTX 4070 Ti

 

I am also using this CPU - RYZEN 5 3600.

 

I am not sure if the RTX 3070 or RTX 4070 Ti will cause bottleneck for 1080p gaming so just wanted to ask which GPU should i buy ?

[filpo]

1 minute ago, Mikey89 said:

RTX 4070 Ti

This will DEFINITELY be bottlenecked

 

1 minute ago, Mikey89 said:

RTX 3060 Ti

- RTX 3070

These two should be fine but if you're just gaming check out the 6700 xt or the 6800

ASRock Radeon RX6700XT CLD 12G Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card (RX6700XT CLD 12G) - PCPartPicker

XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card (RX-68XLAQFD9) - PCPartPicker

What psu do you have btw?

[Dedayog]

17 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

Hi

 

So i am currently on an ASUS ROG STRIX GTX 1660 SUPER and was thinking of upgrading.

 

I was looking at these GPUs:

 

- RTX 3060 Ti

- RTX 3070

- RTX 4070 Ti

 

I am also using this CPU - RYZEN 5 3600.

 

I am not sure if the RTX 3070 or RTX 4070 Ti will cause bottleneck for 1080p gaming so just wanted to ask which GPU should i buy ?

What's your budget?

 

Because if you can afford a 4070Ti, you can instead upgrade that CPU to a MUCH better gaming one.

 

As @filpo says, you'll be wasting a 4070Ti until you upgrade the CPU.

 

Microcenter within a reasonable distance?  

[venomtail]

I would recommend a 7700XT. Will handle just about all 1080p games. Will run better than a 3070 and cost 2/3rd as much as a 4070TI.

[Mikey89]

25 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

What's your budget?

 

Because if you can afford a 4070Ti, you can instead upgrade that CPU to a MUCH better gaming one.

 

As @filpo says, you'll be wasting a 4070Ti until you upgrade the CPU.

 

Microcenter within a reasonable distance?  

Ye i'm not in the states bruh.

 

Also i do intend to upgrade the CPU but later on not very soon - don't really have a budget since i'm buying the parts 1 by 1 at a time.

[Mikey89]

44 minutes ago, filpo said:

This will DEFINITELY be bottlenecked

 

These two should be fine but if you're just gaming check out the 6700 xt or the 6800

ASRock Radeon RX6700XT CLD 12G Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card (RX6700XT CLD 12G) - PCPartPicker

XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card (RX-68XLAQFD9) - PCPartPicker

What psu do you have btw?

I think i have a CORSAIR CX750M - 750W if i remember right.

 

But i'd prefer to go with nvidia on the GPU side.

[Dedayog]

14 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

Ye i'm not in the states bruh.

 

Also i do intend to upgrade the CPU but later on not very soon - don't really have a budget since i'm buying the parts 1 by 1 at a time.

Cool, should move then.  Your call

 

If you are upgrading soonISH, get the 4070Ti.  If not for a few years, then get a 3xxx and then upgrade the PC as a whole in a some years.

 

No use spending now for something you can't fully take advantage of.

[Mikey89]

2 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Cool, should move then.  Your call

 

If you are upgrading soonISH, get the 4070Ti.  If not for a few years, then get a 3xxx and then upgrade the PC as a whole in a some years.

 

No use spending now for something you can't fully take advantage of.

Yeah i'll be sure to give you a call once i'm all set up there.

 

Jokes aside though im not sure i actually need something more than a 3060 Ti or 3070 for 1080p gaming.

 

Mainly because so far the current CPU is doing it's job.

[Dedayog]

Just now, Mikey89 said:

Yeah i'll be sure to give you a call once i'm all set up there.

No no, I don't want to be friends or anything.  Just trying to improve your QoL.

 

Sarcasm aside, are the AMD cards not available to you or you only want Nvidia?  

[Mikey89]

2 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

No no, I don't want to be friends or anything.  Just trying to improve your QoL.

 

Sarcasm aside, are the AMD cards not available to you or you only want Nvidia?  

Improving the QOL ?

 

You're awfully sure of that aren't you ?

 

Let me make this clear - i'm not getting a 4070 Ti because of money... money is NOT a problem for me.

 

Im not getting a 4070 Ti because i simply hate wasting money and i kinda doubt i need anything more than a 3070 or 3060 Ti for 1080p gaming.

[Dedayog]

1 minute ago, Mikey89 said:

Improving the QOL ?

 

You're awfully sure of that aren't you ?

 

Let me make this clear - i'm not getting a 4070 Ti because of money... money is NOT a problem for me.

 

Im not getting a 4070 Ti because i simply hate wasting money.

I'm sorry, I don't follow the 2nd half.

 

You're not getting a 4070Ti?  I didn't see where that was settled.  

 

I am asking about AMD cards, haven't mentioned anything about your money at all.

 

[Mikey89]

12 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

I'm sorry, I don't follow the 2nd half.

 

You're not getting a 4070Ti?  I didn't see where that was settled.  

 

I am asking about AMD cards, haven't mentioned anything about your money at all.

 

What i mean is money is NOT an issue - if i actually want to i can get a 4090.

 

But that would be just wasting money - i'm trying to find the best deals for a GPU upgrade which seem to be either a 3060 Ti or 3070 for 1080p gaming.

 

Also you're the one who mentioned QOL not me.

[Dedayog]

2 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

What i mean is money is NOT an issue - if i actually want to i can get a 4090.

 

Also you're the one who mentioned QOL not me.

 

But that would be just wasting money - i'm trying to find the best deals for a GPU upgrade which seem to be either a 3060 Ti or 3070 for 1080p gaming.

Quality of Life in regards to living near a Microcenter!   It's just that awesome!

 

I'm not concerned with your money, just not wasting it either.

 

So what are the 3060Ti and 3070 prices?  So we can get a decent comparison.  If we can find an AMD card for the same pricing but better performance... would that work?  

 

 

[Mikey89]

1 minute ago, Dedayog said:

Quality of Life in regards to living near a Microcenter!   It's just that awesome!

 

I'm not concerned with your money, just not wasting it either.

 

So what are the 3060Ti and 3070 prices?  So we can get a decent comparison.  If we can find an AMD card for the same pricing but better performance... would that work?  

 

 

Depends, usually anywhere between 300-500 euros for 3060 Ti or 3070.

 

If i were to actually go for a 4070 Ti it would be anywhere between 700-900 euros.

 

But i'd rather go for nvidia instead of AMD on the GPU side of things.

[filpo]

53 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

I think i have a CORSAIR CX750M - 750W if i remember right.

 

But i'd prefer to go with nvidia on the GPU side.

Then get the 3060 ti

[RevGAM]

3070 then. 

[Dedayog]

14 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

Depends, usually anywhere between 300-500 euros for 3060 Ti or 3070.

 

If i were to actually go for a 4070 Ti it would be anywhere between 700-900 euros.

 

But i'd rather go for nvidia instead of AMD on the GPU side of things.

If you can get a 4070Ti for the lower end, around 700... I'd probably go that route and upgrade around it.  900 is too high for a 4070Ti in my opinion but I may be misjudging your market.

[Mikey89]

1 minute ago, Dedayog said:

If you can get a 4070Ti for the lower end, around 700... I'd probably go that route and upgrade around it.  900 is too high for a 4070Ti in my opinion but I may be misjudging your market.

Wouldn't the 4070 Ti be overkill for 1080p gaming though ?

 

Besides i'm not planning on changing the CPU extremely soon.

[hollyh88]

1 minute ago, Mikey89 said:

Wouldn't the 4070 Ti be overkill for 1080p gaming though ?

yes, its a huge waste of money and at that point you may as well get a 4070. do not spend 700-900 bucks on a card that has 12gbs of vram. you could even get a second hand 3090/3090ti if you wanted that level of perf. 

All in all, either buy a 3080 second hand or 4070. since you want to go nvidia only. 

[Mikey89]

1 minute ago, hollyh88 said:

yes, its a huge waste of money and at that point you may as well get a 4070. do not spend 700-900 bucks on a card that has 12gbs of vram. you could even get a second hand 3090/3090ti if you wanted that level of perf. 

All in all, either buy a 3080 second hand or 4070. since you want to go nvidia only. 

Well i was kinda thinking on either a 3060 Ti or 3070.

[hollyh88]

3 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

Well i was kinda thinking on either a 3060 Ti or 3070.

wel...

3060ti is okay if you get the 12g.. ah right doesnt exist so not worth it for.. 337.04 dollaroos (lowest price i could find)
3070 is also okay but again only 8gbs so you can forget about future tripple a games on max settings without adjustments.. yes even at 1080p sadly. 
but.. for 380 dollaroos eh 17% more performance. i mean if you have the money to spend sure you could go for it. 

https://www.newegg.com/zotac-geforce-rtx-3070-zt-a30700f-10plhr/p/1FT-000M-003A1?Item=1FT-000M-003A1&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=afc-ran-com-_-PCPartPicker&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=afc-ran-com-_-PCPartPicker&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3a%2f%2fpcpartpicker.com%2f&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-oWElZRVsQ0wpI50sEkrfMQ

bit of a waste tbh when you could get an amd card with 12gb for less than that (6750xt) and more perf than a 3070 or on par.

https://www.newegg.com/asrock-radeon-rx-6750-xt-rx6750xt-clp-12go/p/N82E16814930071?Item=N82E16814930071&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=afc-ran-com-_-PCPartPicker&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=afc-ran-com-_-PCPartPicker&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3a%2f%2fpcpartpicker.com%2f&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-Hd8u0XlVAM6phXRPCeGYgQ


But since you only want nvidia yes go either second hand 3080 or new 3070 than!

[Mikey89]

2 minutes ago, hollyh88 said:

wel...

3060ti is okay if you get the 12g.. ah right doesnt exist so not worth it for.. 337.04 dollaroos (lowest price i could find)
3070 is also okay but again only 8gbs so you can forget about future tripple a games on max settings without adjustments.. yes even at 1080p sadly. 
but.. for 380 dollaroos eh 17% more performance. i mean if you have the money to spend sure you could go for it. 

https://www.newegg.com/zotac-geforce-rtx-3070-zt-a30700f-10plhr/p/1FT-000M-003A1?Item=1FT-000M-003A1&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=afc-ran-com-_-PCPartPicker&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=afc-ran-com-_-PCPartPicker&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3a%2f%2fpcpartpicker.com%2f&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-oWElZRVsQ0wpI50sEkrfMQ

bit of a waste tbh when you could get an amd card with 12gb for less than that (6750xt) and more perf than a 3070 or on par.

https://www.newegg.com/asrock-radeon-rx-6750-xt-rx6750xt-clp-12go/p/N82E16814930071?Item=N82E16814930071&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=afc-ran-com-_-PCPartPicker&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=afc-ran-com-_-PCPartPicker&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3a%2f%2fpcpartpicker.com%2f&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-Hd8u0XlVAM6phXRPCeGYgQ


But since you only want nvidia yes go either second hand 3080 or new 3070 than!

I mean... i got a buddy on a 3070 and he maxes out pretty much any game at 1080p.

 

Pretty much the reason why i wanna upgrade :

 

 

That and DLSS is also nice to have.

 

[Mikey89]

@Dedayog

 

BTW any difference between these brands : ASUS, MSI, GIGABYTE ?

 

I was leaning towards ASUS however 1 of my current GPU's fans seems to have some issues - see my post above.

 

On the other hand i heard GIGABYTE has a bad rep with their customer service and back in june this year DIABLO 4 fried like pretty much every 3080 from GIGABYTE.

 

About MSI i don't really know how good or bad they are, i just know they're among the top brands along with ASUS and GIGABYTE.

[hollyh88]

24 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

I mean... i got a buddy on a 3070 and he maxes out pretty much any game at 1080p.

 

Pretty much the reason why i wanna upgrade :

 

 

That and DLSS is also nice to have.

 

well yes for now, but even now its already clear 8gb is not going to be enough in the bigger titles soon. Which you also want to play of course. So while it may perform well now it isnt going to perform well in the long run. and of course if you have no problems turning settings down in those games to medium or using higher upscaling yea it probably wont be an issue. but would you really want to spend 380 bucks to do that? in my opinion its a bit of a waste of money.

Yes dlss is superior to fsr. But its not as bad as it seems when both are properly implemented. I used fsr when i still had a 2070s without any issues. yes not as good but not as bad as a lot of people said it was. And now with a 6950xt i dont really miss dlss at all.

Now your choices are to me simple,

 

either go with a 3070. have dlss, have that nvidia premium feeling. and have reflex. in the supported titles... and have better raytracing. But only have 8gb of vram which is 100% going to cause issues and already is causing issues in some games. (especially with raytracing) And you do not get the newest features like framegen.

or buy a 4070 so you do get the newest feature like framegen. and have 12gb but you do need to spend 550 dollaroos on that. 

OR get a second hand 3080 which will have a bit more vram and a decent bump in performance over the 3070. 

OR get a 6750xt for less money than a 3070 while having more performance or equal. and 12gb but worse raytracing perf in heavier titles (not easy ones). and sacrifice the mwah better quality of dlss for a still okay fsr. But get the nice feature of fsr3 in the future and antilag+ in the future. 

or get a 7700xt for a bit more perf than a 3070 and have 12gb and have av1 and have access to antilag+ now and probably a bit better fsr frame gen perf or quality. but it does cost you about 70 bucks more than a 3070 new.

all in all its your choice and your money. so choose well else you will have to upgrade at some point again soon.

[hollyh88]

13 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

@Dedayog

 

BTW any difference between these brands : ASUS, MSI, GIGABYTE ?

 

I was leaning towards ASUS however 1 of my current GPU's fans seems to have some issues - see my post above.

 

On the other hand i heard GIGABYTE has a bad rep with their customer service and back in june this year DIABLO 4 fried like pretty much every 3080 from GIGABYTE.

 

About MSI i don't really know how good or bad they are, i just know they're among the top brands along with ASUS and GIGABYTE.

asus is fine but usually bit more pricier.

MSI usually doesnt have any big issues and their coolers are decent as long as you dont get the bad mech versions

Gigabyte is fine but their fans can in some cards and coolers have this annoying issue where they ramp up for a few sec even if temps are fine.

Personally i would go with msi or zotac is fine too. But it seems the other cards in regards to 3070 pricing are pretty high still. compared to the link one i showed. so.. there is that too.