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19 minutes ago, RevGAM said:

Not really golden. It's more like the minimum at which you may not notice the problems unless you've stepped down from, say, 144 FPS. Increased FPS benefits average players and pros alike. 

As I said, look at reviews of products you are considering. There are many good choices from many companies... and crap,  too.

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But that's the thing - i actually did look at reviews for the ZOTAC models and the reviews were good.

 

However when i googled "is zotac a good GPU brand" - i saw people on different forums and pretty much everyone saying they overheat a lot. Like they weren't giving out a review but other people were asking about ZOTAC on those forums and that was the response.

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52 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

@hollyh88

 

To be honest im not going for 144 FPS gaming - for me anything between 60-100 FPS is good, i believe PC gaming is always good if you're staying above the golden "60 FPS".

 

BTW between ASUS, GIGABYTE, ZOTAC which brand should i go for ?

 

I heard ZOTAC cards overheat a lot but then again GIGABYTE seems to have bad customer service.

i personally wouldnt spend 300 bucks on 1080p gaming card only to end up with just above 60 fps performance.
But it is better to have at least above 60 yes.

Zotac cards are from my knowledge fine. asus is fine just more expensive and gigabyte is oke besides their fan problem.

What you should do is look at the model you want to buy then look up if there is a youtube video on the performance of the cooler in cooling as well as how noisy they are.

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2 hours ago, Mikey89 said:

@RevGAM

 

But that's the thing - i actually did look at reviews for the ZOTAC models and the reviews were good.

 

However when i googled "is zotac a good GPU brand" - i saw people on different forums and pretty much everyone saying they overheat a lot. Like they weren't giving out a review but other people were asking about ZOTAC on those forums and that was the response.

Comments on forums that aren't supported by research really aren't necessarily reliable, just like customer reviews can be nonsense sometimes. You need to look at what actual reviewers are reporting. Look at Quasarzone, HWCooling and HW Busters. 

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19 minutes ago, RevGAM said:

Comments on forums that aren't supported by research really aren't necessarily reliable, just like customer reviews can be nonsense sometimes. You need to look at what actual reviewers are reporting. Look at Quasarzone, HWCooling and HW Busters. 

@RevGAM

 

I'll probably look at some more YT channels.

 

Quasarzone is in correan which i do not understand, i did search their channel but found nothing about 3060s from ZOTAC and HW cooling had nothing about the ZOTAC RTX 3060 cards on their website.

 

Also would the ASUS TUF RTX 3060 fit inside the COOLER MASTER MASTERBOX MB511 ?

 

That's the case i'm using

 

https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/legacy-products/cases/masterbox-mb511-rgb/

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13 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

@RevGAM

 

I'll probably look at some more YT channels.

 

Quasarzone is in correan which i do not understand, i did search their channel but found nothing about 3060s from ZOTAC and HW cooling had nothing about the ZOTAC RTX 3060 cards on their website.

Use your browser or extension to translate to English. That's what I did. It's not perfect but it works. Did you look at HWB? Aris is highly respected (even though he has a big ego).

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13 minutes ago, RevGAM said:

Use your browser or extension to translate to English. That's what I did. It's not perfect but it works. Did you look at HWB? Aris is highly respected (even though he has a big ego).

@RevGAM

 

BTW would the ASUS TUF RTX 3060 fit inside my case ?

 

https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/legacy-products/cases/masterbox-mb511-rgb/#

 

 

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28 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

@RevGAM

 

I'll probably look at some more YT channels.

 

Quasarzone is in correan which i do not understand, i did search their channel but found nothing about 3060s from ZOTAC and HW cooling had nothing about the ZOTAC RTX 3060 cards on their website.

 

Also would the ASUS TUF RTX 3060 fit inside the COOLER MASTER MASTERBOX MB511 ?

 

That's the case i'm using

 

https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/legacy-products/cases/masterbox-mb511-rgb/

if i can fit a 6950xt in my case you can fit a 3060 in yours 😉

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2 minutes ago, hollyh88 said:

if i can fit a 6950xt in my case you can fit a 3060 in yours 😉

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Thanks, I wasn't really sure because the ASUS TUF RTX 3060 has 3 fans and is longer than my ASUS ROG STRIX GTX 1660 SUPER. 🙂

 

I'm guessing ASUS's TUF models don't any problems with cooling correct ?

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1 minute ago, Mikey89 said:

@hollyh88

 

Thanks, I wasn't really sure because the ASUS TUF RTX 3060 has 3 fans and is longer than my ASUS ROG STRIX GTX 1660 SUPER.

330 on mine vs 300~ on the 3060. and i still have room for maybe an extra 30 ish mm

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3 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

@hollyh88

 

Sorry I edited my post above.

 

I'm guessing ASUS's TUF models don't have any problems with cooling correct ?

as far as i know they do alright. 

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2 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

@hollyh88

 

In terms of brands between

 

ASUS, GIGABYTE, ZOTAC 

 

Which would you go for ?

i would go with asus UNLESS its way more expensive (50+). else zotac.

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2 minutes ago, hollyh88 said:

i would go with asus UNLESS its way more expensive (50+). else zotac.

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Guess what ? 😁😅

 

The ASUS TUF I was looking at earlier IS actually 40-50 euros more expensive than the ZOTAC Twin Edge models. 😅😅

 

But overall I don't really know anything about ZOTAC.

 

I had an ASUS STRIX GTX 950 that lasted me 5-6 years and after that I got my current ASUS ROG STRIX GTX 1660 SUPER.

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3 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

@hollyh88

 

Guess what ? 😁😅

 

The ASUS TUF I was looking at earlier IS actually 40-50 euros more expensive than the ZOTAC Twin Edge models. 😅😅

zotac twin edge model is fine too. wouldnt spend over 50 bucks more on the tuff when its not a difficult card to cool anyway so the extra fan isnt really needed

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13 minutes ago, hollyh88 said:

zotac twin edge model is fine too. wouldnt spend over 50 bucks more on the tuff when its not a difficult card to cool anyway so the extra fan isnt really needed

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Well I do like the TUF's design more and having 3 fans instead of 2 is always a plus in my book. 😁

 

The thing about ZOTAC is when I googled it like pretty much every other forum i was looking at - people were saying they overheat often.

 

I even found a topic in this forum with someone saying their ZOTAC was idling at 50-60'C.

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@hollyh88

 

Oh forgot to mention something.

 

If I am using a GIGABYTE B550M DS3H motherboard would the ASUS TUF RTX 3060 cause any issues with the heatsink ?

 

I read when googling that the longer the GPU the higher chances to mess up something with the heatsink.

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1 hour ago, Mikey89 said:

@RevGAM

 

BTW would the ASUS TUF RTX 3060 fit inside my case ?

 

https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/legacy-products/cases/masterbox-mb511-rgb/#

 

 

FAN AND RADIATOR SUPPORT

Front: Three 120mm or two 140mm* fans and up to a 360mm radiator with a maximum thickness of 50mm without fans.

Top: Two 120mm or two 140mm fans and supports a 120mm or a 240mm radiator.

Rear: One 120mm fan or radiator. All to ensure you don’t have to compromise on performance.

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4 minutes ago, RevGAM said:

FAN AND RADIATOR SUPPORT

Front: Three 120mm or two 140mm* fans and up to a 360mm radiator with a maximum thickness of 50mm without fans.

Top: Two 120mm or two 140mm fans and supports a 120mm or a 240mm radiator.

Rear: One 120mm fan or radiator. All to ensure you don’t have to compromise on performance.

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Thanks !! 🙂

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2 hours ago, Mikey89 said:

@hollyh88

 

Well I do like the TUF's design more and having 3 fans instead of 2 is always a plus in my book. 😁

 

The thing about ZOTAC is when I googled it like pretty much every other forum i was looking at - people were saying they overheat often.

 

I even found a topic in this forum with someone saying their ZOTAC was idling at 50-60'C.

idling doesnt matter. only look at what reviewers say on youtube. Not what random people write. you dont know their setup, their countries temps  their house conditions etc.

 

 

2 hours ago, Mikey89 said:

@hollyh88

 

Oh forgot to mention something.

 

If I am using a GIGABYTE B550M DS3H motherboard would the ASUS TUF RTX 3060 cause any issues with the heatsink ?

 

I read when googling that the longer the GPU the higher chances to mess up something with the heatsink.

doubt it

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@RevGAM

 

Sorry kinda confused about something.

 

I'm seeing for example some vendors have the same GPU but in 2 variants : REGULAR and OC.

 

I know OC means it's factory oveclocked but is it safer to buy an OC GPU even if it's new ?

 

From what i know overclocking a GPU usually reduces it's lifespan.

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11 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

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@RevGAM

 

Sorry kinda confused about something.

 

I'm seeing for example some vendors have the same GPU but in 2 variants : REGULAR and OC.

 

I know OC means it's factory oveclocked but is it safer to buy an OC GPU even if it's new ?

 

From what i know overclocking a GPU usually reduces it's lifespan.

Either is fine, although I believe OC GCs offer you more control. I'm sure Holly will have much better info.

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On 9/12/2023 at 5:35 PM, Mikey89 said:

Ye i'm not in the states bruh.

 

Also i do intend to upgrade the CPU but later on not very soon - don't really have a budget since i'm buying the parts 1 by 1 at a time.

well now that is your plan, get the best gpu you can and upgrade cpu at a later time.

but im concerned by the time you get a cpu the 12gb wont cut it in newer games... lol.

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