New AM5 7800x3D + 7800XT 1440p Gaming build

[Marsey]

Budget (including currency): $3000 (CDN) just for the box (not including accessories, peripherals, monitor, etc.)

Country: Canada

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 1440p gaming, hobbyist Unity game development.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): Getting the system built by Memory Express Edmonton (West) @ https://www.memoryexpress.com/.  Listed parts are already on order if not in stock but no downpayment yet until they get the 7800XT in so I still have time to change options.

 

$385 Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B650-A GAMING WIFI w/ DDR5-5200, PCIe 5.0 Slot, Triple M.2 Slots, 7.1 Audio, 2.5Gb LAN, Wi-Fi 6E, BT 5.2

$530 CPU: AMD Ryzen™ 7 7800X3D Processor, 4.2GHz w/ 8 Cores / 16 Threads, 3D V-Cache

$90 CPU Cooler: DeepCool AK620 WH CPU Cooler, White w/ 2x 120mm Fluid Dynamic Bearing PWM Fans

$160 Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB 32GB DDR5 5600MHz CL36 Dual Channel Kit (2x 16GB), White

$100 Boot Drive: Samsung 980 PRO NVMe M.2 PCI-E x4 SSD, 1TB

$130 Game Drive: Samsung 970 EVO PLUS NVMe M.2 PCI-E x4 SSD, 2TB

$540 Storage Drives: Samsung 870 EVO SATA III 2.5in SSD, 4TB (x2)

$??? Video Card: ASUS TUF Gaming Radeon™ RX 7800 XT White OC Edition 16GB GDDR6

$335 PSU: Seasonic VERTEX 1000W GX Series 80+ Gold, Fully Modular Power Supply w/ 12VHPWR PCIe v5.0 Connector, Flat Cables

$140 Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 216 RW Case, White w/ Tempered Glass Side Window, Dual Front 160mm ARGB Fans, Rear 140mm Fan

$2,410 (+GPU) TOTAL

 

I currently have 3 monitors (Samsung ViewFinity S6 27" QHD (2560x1440) 75Hz IPS) and plan to add a 4th as the main/gaming display (Samsung Odyssey G7 27" Curved (1000R) WQHD (2560x1440) 240Hz VA).  Most of these parts I have a pretty firm idea on going in, but wanted to poll if there are more/better options for the others.  All parts can be up for discussion though.

 

The parts I would firstly entertain options for are: Case, CPU Cooler, and Memory (Vengeance RGB 32GB DDR5 6000MHz CL40 Dual Channel Kit (2x 16GB), White instead).

[Dedayog]

Why are you so heavy on CPU and light on GPU?  For 1440p it's a little lopsided.

 

Why is that PSU so expensive?

[EpochMedia]

9 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Why are you so heavy on CPU and light on GPU?  For 1440p it's a little lopsided.

 

Why is that PSU so expensive?

Is the 7800 XT not perfect for 1440p? I just built my brother a 7600x + 6800 XT based computer that's working great for 1440p.

 

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Agreed on the PSU being overkill. I don't even think I paid that much for my ROG Thor II Platinum (I didn't, I got it for $220). 

[Brooksie359]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/scyD89

Some changes I would make. 

[Dedayog]

4 minutes ago, shadow1psc said:

Is the 7800 XT not perfect for 1440p? I just built my brother a 7600x + 6800 XT based computer that's working great for 1440p.

 

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Agreed on the PSU being overkill. I don't even think I paid that much for my ROG Thor II Platinum (I didn't, I got it for $220). 

Didn't say it wasn't.  I was talking about his balance.  A 7800x3d isn't needed for 1440p, as you attest.  

[EpochMedia]

6 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Didn't say it wasn't.  I was talking about his balance.  A 7800x3d isn't needed for 1440p, as you attest.  

It’s a little more nuanced than that - it’s more like, there’s a minimum GPU tier to hit for resolution breakpoints, but depending on the game(s) you want to play and refresh rate achieved, they could need that much CPU power. Maybe they also want to stream?

 

There’s maybe better options if they want to do productivity and gaming on one machine, but without the full use case I wouldn’t say the 7800 X3D is the wrong choice. 

[Agall]

8 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Didn't say it wasn't.  I was talking about his balance.  A 7800x3d isn't needed for 1440p, as you attest.  

Its more complicated than that. Something I do have to keep bringing up, but you can easily get CPU limited at even 4K ultra settings in some games. Its entirely dependent on the games OP is actually playing, which I haven't seen them mention yet.

 

34 minutes ago, Marsey said:

Budget (including currency): $3000 (CDN) just for the box (not including accessories, peripherals, monitor, etc.)

Country: Canada

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 1440p gaming, hobbyist Unity game development.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): Getting the system built by Memory Express Edmonton (West) @ https://www.memoryexpress.com/.  Listed parts are already on order if not in stock but no downpayment yet until they get the 7800XT in so I still have time to change options.

 

$385 Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B650-A GAMING WIFI w/ DDR5-5200, PCIe 5.0 Slot, Triple M.2 Slots, 7.1 Audio, 2.5Gb LAN, Wi-Fi 6E, BT 5.2

$530 CPU: AMD Ryzen™ 7 7800X3D Processor, 4.2GHz w/ 8 Cores / 16 Threads, 3D V-Cache

$90 CPU Cooler: DeepCool AK620 WH CPU Cooler, White w/ 2x 120mm Fluid Dynamic Bearing PWM Fans

$160 Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB 32GB DDR5 5600MHz CL36 Dual Channel Kit (2x 16GB), White

$100 Boot Drive: Samsung 980 PRO NVMe M.2 PCI-E x4 SSD, 1TB

$130 Game Drive: Samsung 970 EVO PLUS NVMe M.2 PCI-E x4 SSD, 2TB

$540 Storage Drives: Samsung 870 EVO SATA III 2.5in SSD, 4TB (x2)

$??? Video Card: ASUS TUF Gaming Radeon™ RX 7800 XT White OC Edition 16GB GDDR6

$335 PSU: Seasonic VERTEX 1000W GX Series 80+ Gold, Fully Modular Power Supply w/ 12VHPWR PCIe v5.0 Connector, Flat Cables

$140 Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 216 RW Case, White w/ Tempered Glass Side Window, Dual Front 160mm ARGB Fans, Rear 140mm Fan

$2,410 (+GPU) TOTAL

 

I currently have 3 monitors (Samsung ViewFinity S6 27" QHD (2560x1440) 75Hz IPS) and plan to add a 4th as the main/gaming display (Samsung Odyssey G7 27" Curved (1000R) WQHD (2560x1440) 240Hz VA).  Most of these parts I have a pretty firm idea on going in, but wanted to poll if there are more/better options for the others.  All parts can be up for discussion though.

 

The parts I would firstly entertain options for are: Case, CPU Cooler, and Memory (Vengeance RGB 32GB DDR5 6000MHz CL40 Dual Channel Kit (2x 16GB), White instead).

Seasonic Vertex is a 12VHPWR power supply, you'd be better off with a different version that is far less expensive since you're on a budget.

 

7800x3D is the best gaming CPU out, but I'd consider the 13700k/13900k instead if you're doing development as well. The multithreading performance of the 13700k is far better than the 7800x3D and it costs less.

[Dedayog]

1 hour ago, Agall said:

Its more complicated than that. Something I do have to keep bringing up, but you can easily get CPU limited at even 4K ultra settings in some games. Its entirely dependent on the games OP is actually playing, which I haven't seen them mention yet.

 

Seasonic Vertex is a 12VHPWR power supply, you'd be better off with a different version that is far less expensive since you're on a budget.

 

7800x3D is the best gaming CPU out, but I'd consider the 13700k/13900k instead if you're doing development as well. The multithreading performance of the 13700k is far better than the 7800x3D and it costs less.

I get that, trust me.  But even the 7700 and 7700x produce well.  I'd save on the CPU and allocate to GPU personally.

 

1 hour ago, shadow1psc said:

It’s a little more nuanced than that - it’s more like, there’s a minimum GPU tier to hit for resolution breakpoints, but depending on the game(s) you want to play and refresh rate achieved, they could need that much CPU power. Maybe they also want to stream?

 

There’s maybe better options if they want to do productivity and gaming on one machine, but without the full use case I wouldn’t say the 7800 X3D is the wrong choice. 

Streaming would be better done on Intel with e-cores, and I am very familiar with how the less AMD CPUs perform, as I am using a 7700x.   The 7800x3d doesn't stream better than it,

 

I understand about CPU limiting, but anything above the 7600x on AMD's side is more than enough.  Or the 13600k on Intel's side.

 

For the price, it's becoming a non-issue but if you're choosing between CPU and GPU allocation,  know where I stand.

 

[EpochMedia]

The build could absolutely be min/maxed from a price to performance standpoint. For $2,200 USD there's a lot of wiggle room and I've seen some stellar AMD sales over the last couple weeks specifically. For the price difference from a 7700X, I'd probably still just go 7800X3D, but for roughly $340 CAD the 7600X is a compelling thought.

 

To reiterate to @Marsey, it largely depends on what games you are interested in and if there's anything productivity-wise you do other than your hobbyist Unity development. There's no doubt that the 7800 XT will do fine in 1440p, though you likely won't hit anywhere close to 240hz on AAA titles on high/max settings. Also, that particular 7800 XT is likely to have a huge markup - ASUS comes with a tax, white colored GPUs usually come with a tax, I wouldn't be surprised if that card is at least $200 over the $499 USD MSRP. 

 

One last suggestion you didn't ask for, but I figured I'd offer since I've been around my fair share of high end builds and monitors on the bleeding edge for the last 10 years - unless you have absolutely terrible lighting conditions, skip the VA panel. Consider saving on both the CPU and GPU and springing for an OLED panel if at all possible, otherwise I'd say go IPS. 

 

 

[Dedayog]

1 hour ago, EpochMedia said:

The build could absolutely be min/maxed from a price to performance standpoint. For $2,200 USD there's a lot of wiggle room and I've seen some stellar AMD sales over the last couple weeks specifically. For the price difference from a 7700X, I'd probably still just go 7800X3D, but for roughly $340 CAD the 7600X is a compelling thought.

 

To reiterate to @Marsey, it largely depends on what games you are interested in and if there's anything productivity-wise you do other than your hobbyist Unity development. There's no doubt that the 7800 XT will do fine in 1440p, though you likely won't hit anywhere close to 240hz on AAA titles on high/max settings. Also, that particular 7800 XT is likely to have a huge markup - ASUS comes with a tax, white colored GPUs usually come with a tax, I wouldn't be surprised if that card is at least $200 over the $499 USD MSRP. 

 

One last suggestion you didn't ask for, but I figured I'd offer since I've been around my fair share of high end builds and monitors on the bleeding edge for the last 10 years - unless you have absolutely terrible lighting conditions, skip the VA panel. Consider saving on both the CPU and GPU and springing for an OLED panel if at all possible, otherwise I'd say go IPS. 

 

 

If it's $200 over $499 then it's $700+, which is 7900xt territory.

 

[SorryBella]

6 hours ago, Marsey said:

no downpayment yet

How much do you actually have? I wouldn't pay a damn installment for a PC.

[EpochMedia]

4 hours ago, Dedayog said:

If it's $200 over $499 then it's $700+, which is 7900xt territory.

 

Yeah I didnt say it made sense, just that historically ASUS is way above market with their products. GPU manufacturers also seem to have some sort of a weird collective unspoken agreement that white = $100 more too. 

[Dedayog]

6 hours ago, EpochMedia said:

Yeah I didnt say it made sense, just that historically ASUS is way above market with their products. GPU manufacturers also seem to have some sort of a weird collective unspoken agreement that white = $100 more too. 

Now that part is true enough.  Gotta pay a premium for anything other than flat black

 

Oh, and your sig says i9-3900k for your 13900k.