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Madison reveals experiences working at LMG

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9 minutes ago, castlev said:

That's fine. I don't because I worked helpdesk for 5 years, and half the time "I need more memory" turns out to not be the case.

This is because systems have far more memory now than before.

 

I have 20 years of experience in IT and can say memory sizes 10 years ago absolutely was a bottleneck for alot of programs and made a huge difference for multi tasking.

Especially since systems used to have only 256 mb.

 

With giga bytes of memory this changed for most users. But... some workflows need even more memory than a typical 2GB system.

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2 minutes ago, tech.guru said:

Its not extraordinary because workplace harassment happens all the time in companies.

the only extraordinary part of her story is ltt management did not support her and allowed this abuse to continue.

 

ex-ltt staff have already said the stuff she posted is what they heard from madison herself at the time.

 

Whatever level of 'extraordinaire' you assign to the claims, she doesn't have any evidence to back those claims.

 

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5 minutes ago, tech.guru said:

This is because systems have far more memory now than before.

 

I have 20 years of experience in IT and can say memory sizes 10 years ago absolutely was a bottleneck for alot of programs and made a huge difference for multi tasking.

Especially since systems used to have only 256 mb.

 

With giga bytes of memory this changed for most users. But... some workflows need even more memory than a typical 2GB system.

Absolutely agree 100%.

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17 minutes ago, Someona said:

Whatever level of 'extraordinaire' you assign to the claims, she doesn't have any evidence to back those claims.

 

Evidence can be circumstantial.

 

civil cases are often awarded on the most plausibile (a preponderance of the evidence) and not absolute beyond a reasonable doubt burden of proof of criminal cases.

 

direct evidence may be impossible as these are situations took place between two individuals away from others.

 

Would it take a court to award her damages for you to believe her? 

What evidence would convince you?

 

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8 minutes ago, tech.guru said:

Evidence can be circumstantial.

 

civil cases are often awarded on the most plausibile (a preponderance of the evidence) and not absolute beyond a reasonable doubt burden of proof of criminal cases.

 

direct evidence may be impossible as these are situations took place between two individuals away from others.

 

She doesn't even have that, she has 0 evidence, hearsay isn't circumstantial evidence.

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Just now, Someona said:

She doesn't even have that, she has 0 evidence, hearsay isn't circumstantial evidence.

What evidence would she need to provide for you to believe she was harrased?

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1 minute ago, Someona said:

She doesn't even have that, she has 0 evidence, hearsay isn't circumstantial evidence.

What do you mean by hearsay? You do know she described stuff that happened to her…

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1 minute ago, tech.guru said:

What evidence would she need to provide for you to believe she was harrased?

Verified text/chat screenshots, audio recordings, admission of guilt, camera footage,

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9 minutes ago, Someona said:

Verified text/chat screenshots, audio recordings, admission of guilt, camera footage,

 

Are you a religious person Someona?

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1 minute ago, Someona said:

Verified text/chat screenshots, audio recordings, admission of guilt, camera footage,

Without those you believe the situation didnt happen?

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29 minutes ago, Uttamattamakin said:

The context of my comment is responding to the idea that James was harassing Linus.   I agree it shows the culture of the place that such a joke is a common thing.  

IT could also be said, that by saying that to Linus James is giving him a taste of the medicine.  Pushing back against the "everything's fine" idea in a gentle way. 

Harassment can be claimed by anyone in the room that finds the comment offensive.

Not just linus.

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2 minutes ago, tech.guru said:

Without those you believe the situation didnt happen?

We have 0 of these, nevermind all of these.

 

3 minutes ago, Sasha2D said:

 

Are you a religious person Someona?

Not in the way you think

1 minute ago, tech.guru said:

Harassment can be claimed by anyone in the room that finds the comment offensive.

Not just linus.

So can Linus claim harassment when Madison told him the sex joke at the work place?

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8 minutes ago, Someona said:

We have 0 of these, nevermind all of these.

 

Not in the way you think

So can Linus claim harassment when Madison told him the sex joke at the work place?

 

In what way then?

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1 minute ago, Sasha2D said:

 

In what way then?

In the way I don't believe the universe came from nothing or that it was just always here.

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14 minutes ago, Someona said:

We have 0 of these, nevermind all of these.

 

Not in the way you think

So can Linus claim harassment when Madison told him the sex joke at the work place?

Yes, linus could absolutely if she was an employee at the time and this 'joke' made him uncomfortable. Even a third party over hearing the 'joke' could complain.

 

I would like to state allegations she made werent sexual 'jokes'. She made allegations into unwanted touching, bullying, and sexual harassment.

 

And more importantly this wasnt a once off instance she is claiming but a pattern that ultimately lead her to find the workplace so toxic she quit

 

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14 minutes ago, Someona said:

In the way I don't believe the universe came from nothing or that it was just always here.

 

Okay where is your 100% air tight evidence for this?

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18 minutes ago, Someona said:

Verified text/chat screenshots, audio recordings, admission of guilt, camera footage,

Ahhh...you mean things that she couldn't possibly legally have (aside from the admission of guilt)?

 

All text/chat screenshots will be prohibited from being copied from the company's network, all her email/chat accounts will have been deleted, and recording camera/audio footage inside the workplace without permission is generally prohibited via contract and the employee handbook in any sane modern company. And nobody's going to admit guilt on any of this stuff, because they'll likely be fired immediately.

 

The only evidence that will be available with this is eyewitness testimony.

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6 minutes ago, tech.guru said:

Yes, linus could absolutely if she was an employee at the time and this 'joke' made him uncomfortable. Even a third party over hearing the 'joke' could complain.

 

I would like to state allegations she made werent sexual 'jokes'. She made allegations into unwanted touching, bulling, and sexual harassment.

 

 

Yes, she was completely an employee at the time and posted it on the official TikTok account.

5 minutes ago, Sasha2D said:

 

Okay where is your 100% air tight evidence for this?

Yes, I am making a leap of faith of the unknown without proof.

 

But you shouldn't make a leap of faith in lynching someone without proof.

 

You see the nuance?

 

1 minute ago, digitalscream said:

Ahhh...you mean things that she couldn't possibly legally have (aside from the admission of guilt)?

 

All text/chat screenshots will be prohibited from being copied from the company's network, all her email/chat accounts will have been deleted, and recording camera/audio footage inside the workplace without permission is generally prohibited via contract and the employee handbook in any sane modern company.

One party consent recording is legal in Canada, she could've legally recorded at any time.

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6 minutes ago, Sasha2D said:

 

Okay where is your 100% air tight evidence for this?

He's got screenshots.

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12 minutes ago, Someona said:

 

Yes, she was completely an employee at the time and posted it on the official TikTok account.

Yes, I am making a leap of faith of the unknown without proof.

 

But you shouldn't make a leap of faith in lynching someone without proof.

 

You see the nuance?

 

One party consent recording is legal in Canada, she could've legally recorded at any time.

Did linus find these comments offensive?

Does LTT apply the same standard to all employees?

 

Any sexual joke could be harassment (didnt see it).

 

No you can not pick a specific situation and apply punishment selectively.

 

Also you do realise in any secret workplace recording while not against the law can consitute a breach of trust between employee and employeer relationship and grounds for termination 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, tech.guru said:

Did linus find these comments offensive?

Does LTT apply the same standard to all employees?

 

Any sexual joke could be harassment (didnt see it).

 

No you can not pick a specific situation and apply punishment selectively.

 

We have proof she told sex jokes at the workplace, while we have 0 proof someone told her sex jokes/other sex talk.

 

So what should've Linus if he didn't like the joke? Report her to the authorities?

 

13 minutes ago, tech.guru said:

Also you do realise in any secret workplace recording while not against the law can consitute a breach of trust between employee and employeer relationship and grounds for termination 

 

 

She already mentioned in her story that she made her mind on quitting and she started job hunting, so why would she care if she was caught recording and terminated? It's legal, she's recording a crime.

 

She didn't record it, nor she saved or photographed texts/screenshots, when she easily could.

 

So we have 0 evidence of anyone sexually harassing her, but we have evidence that she might've sexually harassed Linus.

 

 

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28 minutes ago, Someona said:

 

One party consent recording is legal in Canada, she could've legally recorded at any time.

It's not as simple as that.

 

https://duttonlaw.ca/recording-conversations-at-work-canada/#:~:text=Can an employer record an,in the conversation being recorded.

 

Suggest you read all of it, but the simplest summary is: yes, you can record things at work, but you can also be fired for it. Thus you only record something if you've already decided you're leaving, and Madison made that decision after the last conversation that she would have needed to record to satisfy you. See the problem?

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10 minutes ago, Someona said:

So we have 0 evidence of anyone sexually harassing her, but we have evidence that she might've sexually harassed Linus.

I'm sorry but are you being f***ing serious right now? 

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3 minutes ago, digitalscream said:

It's not as simple as that.

 

https://duttonlaw.ca/recording-conversations-at-work-canada/#:~:text=Can an employer record an,in the conversation being recorded.

 

Suggest you read all of it, but the simplest summary is: yes, you can record things at work, but you can also be fired for it. Thus you only record something if you've already decided you're leaving, and Madison made that decision after the last conversation that she would have needed to record to satisfy you. See the problem?

She mentioned she started job hunting long before she quit, that's why she landed a job immediately after she quit, so she made the decision to leave way earlier, she could've easily recorded the last allehed "abuse" she allegedly suffered, she didn't.

 

2 minutes ago, Sasha2D said:

I'm sorry but are you being f***ing serious right now? 

Why are you quoting me and not the guy who said that inappropriate sex joke is sexual harassment if a coworker doesn't like it?

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