Madison reveals experiences working at LMG

[ArcVult]

I don't understand why people still doubt Madison when multiple former employees corroborated her statements. It's no longer just Madison throwing baseless accusations. they didn't directly witness her harassment but the fact that they've heard about it around when it happened (possibly from multiple sources and not just Madison herself in Colin's case). Her claims have stayed consistent years later too. Not exactly a hallmark of someone who's making shit up as they go along.

[Cooldoe]

48 minutes ago, HenrySalayne said:

There are quite high requirements to send a warning letter. It needs to be a gross violation of duty. Missing your KPIs is not a gross violation of duty. An employee would need extraordinarily bad performance numbers compared to their colleagues to start an internal investigation that could lead to a warning letter. The employer pretty much has to prove that the employee didn't do their job.

We don't have any insight into the situation so discussing this is pretty pointless.

However, I think we can all agree that an employer should under no circumstances make an employee look at pornographic and harassing material. Even if it's legally acceptable, it's something an employer should never do.

Err for sales, your sales target is your whole jobs. If you miss your target then you did not meet the work expectations.

 

Yes they should not ask on purpose to look at porn. But here in this case they do not asked her to see porn. As I explained the possibility of seeing porn in joke member only OF is smaller than managing Twitter/x so the jobs is reasonable

[Cooldoe]

3 minutes ago, ArcVult said:

I don't understand why people still doubt Madison when multiple former employees corroborated her statements. It's no longer just Madison throwing baseless accusations. they didn't directly witness her harassment but the fact that they've heard about it around when it happened (possibly from multiple sources and not just Madison herself in Colin's case). Her claims have stayed consistent years later too. Not exactly a hallmark of someone who's making shit up as they go along.

You need to relook at the corraboration again.

Both specifically said they never see it first hand but corroborate that madison story is consistent

 

So we can agree that Madison believe it is true.

But it is also possible that her belief is not accurate

So it is better to wait for the investigation 

[Someona]

5 minutes ago, ArcVult said:

I don't understand why people still doubt Madison when multiple former employees corroborated her statements. It's no longer just Madison throwing baseless accusations. they didn't directly witness her harassment but the fact that they've heard about it around when it happened (possibly from multiple sources and not just Madison herself in Colin's case). Her claims have stayed consistent years later too. Not exactly a hallmark of someone who's making shit up as they go along.

Categorically false, 0 people have collaborated the crimes she alleges. Saying that she indeed needed to tweet 3 times a day is not collaborating the story that she was sexually harassed.

[starsmine]

7 minutes ago, Someona said:

Categorically false, 0 people have collaborated the crimes she alleges. Saying that she indeed needed to tweet 3 times a day is not collaborating the story that she was sexually harassed.

????? Whose posts did you read? Apparently it wasn’t Taran’s or Colin’s.

[Cooldoe]

12 minutes ago, starsmine said:

????? Whose posts did you read? Apparently it wasn’t Taran’s or Colin’s.

Both colins and taran never said they saw what madison say happen

 

Both specifically say they never see it firsthand only hearsay from madison

 

But both say madison story is consistent

So madison believe it is true

 

But as I said before she can be confidently wrong as well

[ArcVult]

22 minutes ago, Cooldoe said:

You need to relook at the corraboration again.

Both specifically said they never see it first hand but corroborate that madison story is consistent

 

So we can agree that Madison believe it is true.

But it is also possible that her belief is not accurate

So it is better to wait for the investigation 

what part of "they didn't directly witness her harassment" did you not understand???

[Someona]

12 minutes ago, starsmine said:

????? Whose posts did you read? Apparently it wasn’t Taran’s or Colin’s.

Taran collaborated that she needed more ram,

Colin collaborated that they often made technical errors,

Just because she indeed needed to tweet 3 times a day, needed more ram, and LTT made technical errors doesn't mean the allegations about sexual harassment were collaborated.

[ArcVult]

2 minutes ago, Cooldoe said:

Both colins and taran never said they saw what madison say happen

 

Both specifically say they never see it firsthand only hearsay from madison

 

But madison story is consistent

So madison believe it is truwle

 

But as I said before she can be confidently wrong as well

ah yes, they had to be there in the room watching her get harrassed otherwise it's not valid? word doesn't get around the office?

[Cooldoe]

1 minute ago, ArcVult said:

what part of "they didn't directly witness her harassment" did you not understand???

Yeah that was my statement.

They did not corroborate that they see it happen

They did not bear witness of any incident

[Cooldoe]

1 minute ago, ArcVult said:

ah yes, they had to be there in the room watching her get harrassed otherwise it's not valid? word doesn't get around the office?

You said they corroborate it, which is false as they did not corroborate the incident happen

 

They also did not corroborate they hear gossip about it

 

The only corroborate they hear the story from madison

[Reclus]

Just now, Someona said:

Taran collaborated that she needed more ram,

Colin collaborated that they often made technical errors,

Just because she indeed needed to tweet 3 times a day, needed more ram, and LTT made technical errors doesn't mean the allegations about sexual harassment were collaborated.

This corroboration some of you are referring to.. If you please could directly quote where do they confirm Madisons claims. I have read the links multiple times. Do not see it at all and wouldn't want to miss something like this if true. 

[ArcVult]

1 minute ago, Someona said:

Taran collaborated that she needed more ram,

Colin collaborated that they often made technical errors,

Just because she indeed needed to tweet 3 times a day, needed more ram, and LTT made technical errors doesn't mean the allegations about sexual harassment were collaborated.

taran said she confided in him and told him what happened to her and he says that her story has stayed consistent even years later. the ram part is a small part that shows at least some of what she is saying is undeniably true.

[Cooldoe]

Just now, ArcVult said:

taran said she confided in him and told him what happened to her and he says that her story has stayed consistent even years later. the ram part is a small part that shows at least some of what she is saying is undeniably true.

Nope. It corroborate that madison believe it is true.

As I said multiple time, she can be confidently wrong as well

[ArcVult]

8 minutes ago, Cooldoe said:

You said they corroborate it, which is false as they did not corroborate the incident happen

 

They also did not corroborate they hear gossip about it

 

The only corroborate they hear the story from madison

the definition of corroborate is: To strengthen or support with other evidence; make more certain. saying her story has remained consistent and confirming part (however small) of her claims does strengthen her claims no?

[Cooldoe]

Just now, ArcVult said:

the definition of corroborate is: To strengthen or support with other evidence; make more certain. saying her story has remained consistent and confirming part (however small) of her claims does strengthen her claims no?

It does but it does not corroborate that the accident happened

Or they bear witness to it

 

It does corroborate that she believe it is happened and he story is consistent

But as I said someone can be confident but false at the same time

 

It is better to see the investigation result

[Anders155]

1 hour ago, Reclus said:

Please read your own post. You have described exactly what Madison's testimony looks like to a person that requires evidence:

 

 - I'm basing this off the fact that she's using anecdotal evidence to attempt a point that LMG lied or faked things. Not to mention telling a bunch of strangers online about her boss and his company and their issues. It's not like we only have one side of the story -

 

are you ignoring the other ex lmg staff that corroborated her story?

[Cooldoe]

6 minutes ago, Anders155 said:

are you ignoring the other ex lmg staff that corroborated her story?

This is keeping a loop

 

They did not corroborate the incident happened they corroborate that madison story consistent 

[ArcVult]

4 minutes ago, Cooldoe said:

It does but it does not corroborate that the accident happened

Or they bear witness to it

 

It does corroborate that she believe it is happened and he story is consistent

But as I said someone can be confident but false at the same time

 

It is better to see the investigation result

Hinging the validity of madisons statements on an "internal investigation" or an investigation run by a group *chosen and paid for by LTT* is just sad. If LTT was willing to brush this under the rug for so long (along with what GN revealed), do you really think they wouldn't just pay off an investigator and lie to protect their public image? Liers have inconsistencies in their story and their stories will change from moment to moment. This means she is *LIKELY* not lying.. assuming she is "confidently lying" with 0 reasons behind it is just grasping at straws.

[Reclus]

12 minutes ago, Anders155 said:

are you ignoring the other ex lmg staff that corroborated her story?

Read the posts above.

[Cooldoe]

5 minutes ago, ArcVult said:

Hinging the validity of madisons statements on an "internal investigation" or an investigation run by a group *chosen and paid for by LTT* is just sad. If LTT was willing to brush this under the rug for so long (along with what GN revealed), do you really think they wouldn't just pay off an investigator and lie to protect their public image? Liers have inconsistencies in their story and their stories will change from moment to moment. This means she is *LIKELY* not lying.. assuming she is "confidently lying" with 0 reasons behind it is just grasping at straws.

It is an independent 3rd party.

It can be any organization even NGO that deal with woman issue

 

i am not saying Madison lied, I believe that she is confident about her story and she believe it to be true.

 

The reality is people can be confidently wrong as well.

[Mr. Rabbit]

4 hours ago, 5tranger said:

Ultimately, it’s Linus’s fault. From the way that it sounds her being hired was largely based on community demands. Did he follow the normal procedures for hiring her? (candidate vetting, interviews, etc.) Madison did mention it was a surprise she was hired.  If procedures were not followed, Linus ultimately put Madison, himself, and his company in danger of something like this happening.

The more I find out about this and the other situations, the more I realize Linus should have stepped down as CEO years ago. Probably he should have stepped down as CEO the night he went live at home (1-22-2020) because he was questioning his professional future and subsequently created the “sad Linus” meme.

I am of the same opinion.

It seems he knew he wasn't capable, wanted Terren as a CEO, but because he was never available, Linus just kept going.

I understand his position, he wanted someone of trust, that could handle Linus, and that understood Linus' vision for the company.

 

In the end, all of this is the result of a company growing too much too fast, under a CEO who admits he doesn't have the knowledge or patience for the usual CEO demands, and never was able to shake the "swim or die" mentality from when they were a small company.

He wanted a culture of everybody is everybody's friends, everybody joking and having a good time, but that doesn't work when you reach 40, 50, 60 people, because at that point, you stop knowing everybody there, and you start having people who are there not because it's a cool company, but because it's a job.

 

Bringing Terren was the right choice, and it's clear why Linus wanted him there, but it's also clear that they needed a more experienced and professional CEO than Linus a long time ago.

[ArcVult]

15 minutes ago, Cooldoe said:

This is keeping a loop

 

They did not corroborate the incident happened they corroborate that madison story consistent 

They did tho, though you are cherry-picking parts of her statement and the definition of the word corroborate by saying "Nah they didn't corroborate parts of her claims, therefore, their statements are useless." do you really think 2 ex-staff would risk their public image to associate themselves with her claims because she was "confidently lying". Do you genuinely think that Tarren and Colin would involve themselves in this just because "he helped her add some ram to her PC"? Does the fact that an editor had to take time out of his day to add ram to her PC to help her do her JOB because the company ignored her requests isn't concerning you? honestly, you're being intentionally dense which is exactly why this conversation is in a loop. but logic isn't getting through to you so we just have to repeat basic points just to acknowledge important parts of these claims (ex-employees CORROBERATING HER CLAIMS)

[Someona]

43 minutes ago, ArcVult said:

taran said she confided in him and told him what happened to her and he says that her story has stayed consistent even years later. the ram part is a small part that shows at least some of what she is saying is undeniably true.

She wrote a 60 tweet story consisting of both mundane and controversial parts, of course some of the mundane parts would be true, including that she needed to tweet 3 times a day.

 

The thing is there are 0 collaborations and evidence of the crimes/controversies she alleges happened

[Cooldoe]

9 minutes ago, ArcVult said:

They did tho, though you are cherry-picking parts of her statement and the definition of the word corroborate by saying "Nah they didn't corroborate parts of her claims, therefore, their statements are useless." do you really think 2 ex-staff would risk their public image to associate themselves with her claims because she was "confidently lying". Do you genuinely think that Tarren and Colin would involve themselves in this just because "he helped her add some ram to her PC"? Does the fact that an editor had to take time out of his day to add ram to her PC to help her do her JOB because the company ignored her requests isn't concerning you? honestly, you're being intentionally dense which is exactly why this conversation is in a loop. but logic isn't getting through to you so we just have to repeat basic points just to acknowledge important parts of these claims (ex-employees CORROBERATING HER CLAIMS)

I am not cherry picking their post

They choose to 'specifically' mention that they did not see the incident

 

I am not saying madison is lying either

I am saying she could be wrong. Which is a different situation.

To be clear I am not saying this is what happened to Madison but I have seen a lady mistakenly though she is being touch by a guy but in reality she bump into a statue or plant.

Again I am not saying that what happen

 

And the ram issue is not a concern for me. It is normal in corporate setting that the service team is busy doing other work or there a proper guideline need to be followed before the chance can happen