Madison reveals experiences working at LMG

[Cosmic Emotion]

7 minutes ago, mikaelus said:

Absolutely. Zero evidence.

You can diddle-dance all you want. The fact of the matter is that people care about this stuff and LMG has been exposed. Linus at least did the right thing and talked to his employees about it. Perhaps he should also talk to his fans about what's best for LMG as well. You're only hurting yourself and LMG themselves with this kind of non-attitude. <remove by staff>

Edited August 17, 2023 by SansVarnic
Do not politicize. ~Sans

[digitalscream]

7 minutes ago, imreloadin said:

Or, you know, you could look at what Colin, who worked for LMG until about a year ago, said backing up a lot of Madison's statements...

 

But hey, who needs other first hand accounts on things, you do you.

Exactly. The only motivation I can find behind Madison's thread is that she explicitly says she's pissed off that her complaints were ignored/minimised at the time, and that's what led directly to her leaving - there's no upside to her doing this now for her other than rectifying that, especially given the backlash she knew was coming (since it's happened in the past).

 

LMG are actively investigating this now - whether it's because there are suddenly consequences or because of a desire to do the right thing, doesn't matter. That's the best result she could hope for, and the only proper response. I suspect there are some LMG employees who didn't sleep a whole lot last night and will be polishing their CVs this morning, particularly since her account has been notionally corroborated by Colin and he won't be the only one now that the environment has switched from "production at all costs" to "we need to know about this now".

 

To all of the folk doubling down on their character assassination of Madison instead of talking about it rationally...have you considered how you're going to look if the investigation shows that she's telling the truth? The Internet is forever, and a lot of folk doing that have reused usernames and posted content in the past that link to your actual identities...y'all might find yourselves in exactly the same box that you're trying to put her in.

 

Have a care for the future, and maybe a bit of empathy, and perhaps try to show a bit of restraint.

[Goriss]

So here is my question... Who "leaked" that audio? I mean for all we know Linus could have recorded it 10 hours ago and it's all an act to show how he "cares" about the issue. Isn't it convenient that it got "leaked" just now? It would take him like an hour to prepare such audio and "leak" it. Can someone prove that this audio is actually an old audio from that meeting?

 

Just think about it guys who benefit from this audio the most? I already see people who take Linus' side on this issue after hearing that audio. We have to be open minded everything is possible. And I would not be surprised if that recording was done just to make Linus look good. I mean he doesn't have to make 24 videos a day so have the time to make a 4 min audio recording i guess.

[mikaelus]

5 minutes ago, Cosmic Emotion said:

You can diddle-dance all you want. The fact of the matter is that people care about this stuff and LMG has been exposed. Linus at least did the right thing and talked to his employees about it. Perhaps he should also talk to his fans about what's best for LMG as well. You're only hurting yourself and LMG themselves with this kind of non-attitude. <removed by staff>

Where is the evidence? 

 

<removed by staff>

 

Of course I wouldn't expect more from someone with such a username.

Edited August 17, 2023 by SansVarnic
Do not politicize. ~Sans

[mikaelus]

2 minutes ago, Rolling2405 said:

But there is also zero evidence that LTT/LMG are innocent.

Innocent until proven guilty. Are you familiar with that? Also, Hitchens' razor.

[avgvstvs]

3 minutes ago, Rolling2405 said:

But there is also zero evidence that LTT/LMG are innocent.

Yeah, but your innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around mate.

 

[mikaelus]

9 minutes ago, digitalscream said:

Have a care for the future, and maybe a bit of empathy, and perhaps try to show a bit of restraint.

What about evidence? Or are we going to put people in jail on hearsay?

[McGherkin]

Just now, mikaelus said:

Seriously, liking Twitter posts? Out of how many people at LMG now and over the years exactly? How many anonymous reports or Glassdoor reviews, for people who may be afraid of coming forward?

 

How old are you people? lol

Bearing in mind that these accusations are incredibly damaging to LMG, and you can bet that LMG is aware of this, I’d call it quite a brave thing to do frankly. Also, you wouldn’t be liking everything if you thought it was all made up.

[Cosmic Emotion]

5 minutes ago, mikaelus said:

Innocent until proven guilty. Are you familiar with that? Also, Hitchens' razor.

You don't seem to realize that if Madison takes this recording to court the Jury will be on her side. <removed>

Edited August 17, 2023 by SansVarnic

[digitalscream]

5 minutes ago, mikaelus said:

What about evidence? Or are we going to put people to jail on hearsay?

Who's going to jail? At most, this would be a civil case.

 

But...the only evidence that will be available is corroborating witness testimony. In just a day, and with nobody from the company actively soliciting evidence, we've already had two people with first-hand knowledge support Madison's account - David by liking her Tweets, and Colin coming right out and saying it. How many more do you think there might be, now that the culture has actively changed at the company?

[avgvstvs]

6 minutes ago, Cosmic Emotion said:

You don't seem to realize that if Madison takes this recording to court the Jury will be on her side. <removed>

and why would the jury be on her side again? She is complaining that no one did anything, the video proves the someone, in fact, did something

What else is there to the video that can help her case?

Edited August 17, 2023 by SansVarnic

[digitalscream]

Just now, avgvstvs said:

and why would the jury be on her side again? She is complaining that no one did anything, the video proves the someone, in fact, did something

What else is there to the video that can help her case?

Not exactly. She complains that nobody did anything when they should have, and the video proves that they changed their policies after she left (without actually taking any further action on her complaints).

 

Those are not comparable.

[RasmusDC]

1 minute ago, avgvstvs said:

and why would the jury be on her side again? She is complaining that no one did anything, the video proves the someone, in fact, did something

What else is there to the video that can help her case?

what is this recording, do you have the sauce.... (source) it would be nice to have the ability to make a opinion, since it sounds brutal...

[avgvstvs]

27 minutes ago, imreloadin said:

Or, you know, you could look at what Colin, who worked for LMG until about a year ago, said backing up a lot of Madison's statements...

 

But hey, who needs other first hand accounts on things, you do you.

It would be great if you could share a printscreen or at least source it? Who is Colin? Where can i find "what he said"?

[Cosmic Emotion]

1 minute ago, avgvstvs said:

and why would the jury be on her side again? She is complaining that no one did anything, the video proves the someone, in fact, did something

What else is there to the video that can help her case?

It proves exactly what you said. If you had the power to offer a penalty then, what would it be? We can be completely theoretical about it. But since there is proof that something happened, practically you HAVE to give a penalty. And normies don't like LMG as much as you do.

[digitalscream]

1 minute ago, avgvstvs said:

It would be great if you could share a printscreen or at least source it? Who is Colin? Where can i find "what he said"?

[ProbablyNotFidel]

6 minutes ago, Goriss said:

So here is my question... Who "leaked" that audio? I mean for all we know Linus could have recorded it 10 hours ago and it's all an act to show how he "cares" about the issue. Isn't it convenient that it got "leaked" just now? It would take him like an hour to prepare such audio and "leak" it. Can someone prove that this audio is actually an old audio from that meeting?

 

Just think about it guys who benefit from this audio the most? I already see people who take Linus' side on this issue after hearing that audio. We have to be open minded everything is possible. And I would not be surprised if that recording was done just to make Linus look good. I mean he doesn't have to make 24 videos a day so have the time to make a 4 min audio recording i guess.

It was on Reddit some five or so months ago already. Check back in this thread, someone linked the original one. 

[dwrecks]

6 minutes ago, mikaelus said:

What about evidence? Or are we going to put people to jail on hearsay?

 

Witness testimony is one of the highest forms of evidence that exists. 

 

And so far there's Madison, Colin and David liking all her tweets. Along with a meeting exhibiting inappropriate behaviour.

[charliebros]

8 minutes ago, Cosmic Emotion said:

You don't seem to realize that if Madison takes this recording to court the Jury will be on her side. <removed>

The court will not be in her side because the recording doesn't confirm the allegations, if any, it will just show that she complained to RH way too late, meaning she didn't follow what she was supposed to be, plus, she said Linus didn't really knew much of anything.

 

Also, everybody says Colin confirmed everything, or generally, but he just said "sounds about right", and that he's happy everything is going to be scrutinize, so it just partially confirms it, which is to be seen with the audit.

 

Again, I hope everything Madison is true, because if the findings show that she's exaggerating or just untrue, it will tank her, and most worryingly, it will completely break her mental health, which from the likes of it, is already in a fine thread.

Edited August 17, 2023 by SansVarnic

[mikaelus]

6 minutes ago, McGherkin said:

Bearing in mind that these accusations are incredibly damaging to LMG, and you can bet that LMG is aware of this, I’d call it quite a brave thing to do frankly. Also, you wouldn’t be liking everything if you thought it was all made up.

And what does that prove exactly? That out of dozens of people working at LMG Madison maybe had one buddy?

[Taf the Ghost]

1 minute ago, digitalscream said:

"what I remember hearing"... so, second hand hearsay, minus the fact I'm pretty sure not reporting issues you know about isn't exactly a great sign of the quality of your testimony about second hand information. 

[mikaelus]

2 minutes ago, dwrecks said:

 

Witness testimony is one of the highest forms of evidence that exists. 

 

And so far there's Madison, Colin and David liking all her tweets. Along with a meeting exhibiting inappropriate behaviour.

And yet we still don't know who allegedly committed it.

[wanderingfool2]

37 minutes ago, mikaelus said:

But after this clip I have no idea who would be outraged about anything in it, including James' quip - at least not anybody with an adult brain.

In an HR meeting; where it's talking about people feeling safe and secure it's 100% inappropriate and something should have been said right then that it wasn't appropriate...especially since it's clear it was about the workplace environment.

 

Actually parts of that meeting I find a bit disturbing; like the fact of pointing out that they can't say anything due to not legally being allowed to and in the same breath.  Specifically this

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Carefully consider what it says about the character of someone who would engage in that type of gossip against someone who has no power to defend themselves.

It's essentially Linus undercutting her character; and trying to imply that her accusations should be trusted..in an HR meeting that I'm assuming was spurred on by her accusations and the gossip of why she quit.

[avgvstvs]

1 minute ago, digitalscream said:

Oh, that Colin. Yeah, that makes the situation a bit worse, for sure. Still, he's just saying that it aligns with what she said to him at the time, and not that he saw it or suffered it, so it's not really a testimony or evidence.

[mikaelus]

16 minutes ago, wanderingfool2 said:

In an HR meeting; where it's talking about people feeling safe and secure it's 100% inappropriate and something should have been said right then that it wasn't appropriate...especially since it's clear it was about the workplace environment.

 

Gasp! 

 

19 minutes ago, dwrecks said:

 

Witness testimony is one of the highest forms of evidence that exists. 

 

And so far there's Madison, Colin and David liking all her tweets. Along with a meeting exhibiting inappropriate behaviour.

So, no evidence. Gotcha.

Edited August 17, 2023 by SansVarnic
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