How to optimize AMD 5800X ?

[keavlar]

Hey there. 

 

Is there a way to optimize the CPU, to get better exp. ?! 

 

[tkitch]

What do you mean by optimize?  

[Levent]

From easiest to hardest:

• Enable PBO2
• Tweak PBO2 values for your configuration.
• Tweak PBO2 voltage curve with Curve Optimizer.
• Tweak your fan curves.
• Overclock your infinity fabric.
• Overclock your RAMs.

That being said “optimization” is used with another word so that one would know what to optimize for.

[keavlar]

5 minutes ago, tkitch said:

What do you mean by optimize?  

I do not know how to explain it then. 
I do know, that when I used my 4790k Before upgrading to 5800x, I could play on 1 monitor, and watch a movie, or browse in chrome with 15 tabs open without an issue.
Now, while browsing 15 tabs, and watching a youtube video, my pc feels chunky, and freezes from time to time, even opening a task manager, it would take 3,4 seconds to see the list of running programs. I mean, like what the He** ? 

Its supposed to be much faster. 
 

[keavlar]

7 minutes ago, Levent said:

From easiest to hardest:

• Enable PBO2
• Tweak PBO2 values for your configuration.
• Tweak PBO2 voltage curve with Curve Optimizer.
• Tweak your fan curves.
• Overclock your infinity fabric.
• Overclock your RAMs.

That being said “optimization” is used with another word so that one would know what to optimize for.

I do not know how to explain it then. 
I do know, that when I used my 4790k Before upgrading to 5800x, I could play on 1 monitor, and watch a movie, or browse in chrome with 15 tabs open without an issue.
Now, while browsing 15 tabs, and watching a youtube video, my pc feels chunky, and freezes from time to time, even opening a task manager, it would take 3,4 seconds to see the list of running programs. I mean, like what the He** ? 

Its supposed to be much faster. 

[manikyath]

6 minutes ago, keavlar said:

I do know, that when I used my 4790k Before upgrading to 5800x, I could play on 1 monitor, and watch a movie, or browse in chrome with 15 tabs open without an issue.
Now, while browsing 15 tabs, and watching a youtube video, my pc feels chunky, and freezes from time to time, even opening a task manager, it would take 3,4 seconds to see the list of running programs. I mean, like what the He** ? 

that's not resolved by "optimizing your cpu".. you have a problem here.

among the options:

- your cooler isnt on properly and it's overheating to hell and back

- windows made a massive mess of the drivers, and is actively eating itself

- something else broke during the upgrade, causing instability

[PDifolco]

11 minutes ago, keavlar said:

I do not know how to explain it then. 
I do know, that when I used my 4790k Before upgrading to 5800x, I could play on 1 monitor, and watch a movie, or browse in chrome with 15 tabs open without an issue.
Now, while browsing 15 tabs, and watching a youtube video, my pc feels chunky, and freezes from time to time, even opening a task manager, it would take 3,4 seconds to see the list of running programs. I mean, like what the He** ? 

Its supposed to be much faster. 

Don't you just get out of RAM ? Games from 4th gen era ate waaaay less RAM than nowadays, and browser tabs as well...

[keavlar]

3 minutes ago, manikyath said:

- your cooler isnt on properly and it's overheating to hell and back

Noctua NH-D15 Black: No issues, I am watching over the Temps. 

5 minutes ago, manikyath said:

- windows made a massive mess of the drivers, and is actively eating itself

This can be, I do not know anything about it. But all these issues I have, are from the moment I upgraded to AMD.

6 minutes ago, manikyath said:

- something else broke during the upgrade, causing instability

All parts are new, I checked everything. 

[keavlar]

2 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Don't you just get out of RAM ? Games from 4th gen era ate waaaay less RAM than nowadays, and browser tabs as well...

No, I checked it.
I can agree 16GB can be not enough sometimes, but I see only 65% ~ 75% usage.

[Levent]

I upgraded from a 970 to 3070 and I also noticed worse multi tasking performance. GTX970 would be perfectly fine playing media at other monitors while being fully utilized by games in my primary monitor. Meanwhile 3070 can’t do that even in the same game while also being fully utilized.

 

If you are suspecting of performance problems, download 3dmark and run the free benchmark it has and compare your results to other systems.

[PDifolco]

22 minutes ago, Levent said:

I upgraded from a 970 to 3070 and I also noticed worse multi tasking performance. GTX970 would be perfectly fine playing media at other monitors while being fully utilized by games in my primary monitor. Meanwhile 3070 can’t do that even in the same game while also being fully utilized.

 

If you are suspecting of performance problems, download 3dmark and run the free benchmark it has and compare your results to other systems.

Did you DDU and reinstall NVidia drivers ?

[keavlar]

3 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Did you DDU and reinstall NVidia drivers ?

Fresh Install, Always. So yeah. 
 

[keavlar]

26 minutes ago, Levent said:

I upgraded from a 970 to 3070 and I also noticed worse multi tasking performance. GTX970 would be perfectly fine playing media at other monitors while being fully utilized by games in my primary monitor. Meanwhile 3070 can’t do that even in the same game while also being fully utilized.

 

If you are suspecting of performance problems, download 3dmark and run the free benchmark it has and compare your results to other systems.

I did. I had lower scores, about 1000 points or so. And always assumed the cause of Ram, Monitor, overclocked, or smth. 
Also, I use the 3Dmark not the free version. 
Out of the next options, which is the best to perform for test. Ill post the result just to see what people think. 

[keavlar]

[keavlar]

[keavlar]

1 hour ago, Levent said:

I upgraded from a 970 to 3070 and I also noticed worse multi tasking performance. GTX970 would be perfectly fine playing media at other monitors while being fully utilized by games in my primary monitor. Meanwhile 3070 can’t do that even in the same game while also being fully utilized.

 

If you are suspecting of performance problems, download 3dmark and run the free benchmark it has and compare your results to other systems.

Uploaded the results, the 1080 p vs 1440p is just a small difference as I see.

 

[tkitch]

can you run HWInfo 64 and post a screenshot of your hardware info from it?

[Levent]

7 minutes ago, keavlar said:

Uploaded the results, the 1080 p vs 1440p is just a small difference as I see.

 

Your score is within bell curve. Meaning your hardware is performing as it should. You can see that results you are comparing to have significantly higher GPU clocks and CPU clocks, that alone can make the difference.

[keavlar]

33 minutes ago, tkitch said:

can you run HWInfo 64 and post a screenshot of your hardware info from it?

[keavlar]

34 minutes ago, Levent said:

Your score is within bell curve. Meaning your hardware is performing as it should. You can see that results you are comparing to have significantly higher GPU clocks and CPU clocks, that alone can make the difference.

Yeah. I noticed, the top scorer, is overclocked as well as he probably has liquid-colled entirely pc. 
But, knowing that the PC performs as supposed to, it is annoying, that I have this exp while doing daily tasks, playing and watching movies, browsing, etc. 

[tkitch]

2 hours ago, keavlar said:

Yeah. I noticed, the top scorer, is overclocked as well as he probably has liquid-colled entirely pc. 
But, knowing that the PC performs as supposed to, it is annoying, that I have this exp while doing daily tasks, playing and watching movies, browsing, etc. 

have you tried PBO to see if to clocks a bit higher?

[keavlar]

5 hours ago, tkitch said:

have you tried PBO to see if to clocks a bit higher?

I DIdn't as I do not think that I need to, to get the best performance from Chrome and etc 

[heatonpkmassive]

Did you reinstall Windows when switching from the 4790k to the 5800x?

 

If not, that's your issue.

[freeagent]

Go to the back of the bios, in the AMD overclocking section.

 

Enable PBO, Advanced

 

Set PPT to 200w

TDC 140 (160 if you can)

EDC 180 (190 if you can)

 

Go to Curve settings, enable, Negative all core -30

 

Boost Override +200

 

Save and exit.

 

Should be boosting to 5050MHz single core(s), and should be able to do 4600 for all core loads.

 

I would avoid Ryzen Master. You can do everything it can.

[Demonic Donut]

On 4/30/2023 at 2:56 PM, freeagent said:

Go to the back of the bios, in the AMD overclocking section.

 

Enable PBO, Advanced

 

Set PPT to 200w

TDC 140 (160 if you can)

EDC 180 (190 if you can)

 

Go to Curve settings, enable, Negative all core -30

 

Boost Override +200

 

Save and exit.

 

Should be boosting to 5050MHz single core(s), and should be able to do 4600 for all core loads.

 

I would avoid Ryzen Master. You can do everything it can.

Everyone is recommending starting at -30 CO but I can't boot over -17 and so far only -10 all core is stable in all games I play.

 

I must have gotten a bad 5800x.