Framework introduces Laptop 16!

[nathanbasset]

It's a real shame that WAN show is probably going to be overshadowed by this whole hacking situation, because Framework just hosted a stream today with a ridiculously cool number of innovations.

 

Stream:

 

From 13th gen upgrades for Laptop 13, a new 61Wh battery, matte display, screen bezel, AMD options..
And of course the brand new Laptop 16 coming in late the year.

From what I've seen recently in the laptop space, this machine rivals desktop levels of customizability and repair not echoed by any other manufacturer. 

Recap video:

 

[8tg]

11 minutes ago, nathanbasset said:

this machine rivals desktop levels of customizability and repair not echoed by any other manufacturer. 

no

also, lenovo

the only thing framework has done is provided user serviceable parts themselves, thinkpad nerds did more as just a bunch of hobbyists than framework has yet to come close to 

[da na]

17 minutes ago, nathanbasset said:

not echoed by any other manufacturer

may I introduce you to the Dell Precision M6800.

-91wh battery

-matte or glossy screen

-MXM graphics card

-upgradable CPU

-4 DIMM slots

-literally every small part like screen latch, webcam, keyboard, trackpad, casing is easily replacable 

17 minutes ago, nathanbasset said:

screen bezel

lol hate to break it to you but it's kinda hard to make a screen without bezels, lame feature

 

4 minutes ago, 8tg said:

no

also, lenovo

the only thing framework has done is provided user serviceable parts themselves, thinkpad nerds did more as just a bunch of hobbyists than framework has yet to come close to 

Quite true

[Needfuldoer]

I wonder if this is why they visited LMG last week. (Linus mentioned it on WAN Show.)

 

27 minutes ago, da na said:

may I introduce you to the Dell Precision M6800.

We had a fleet of those deployed for mobile video editing workstations. They're tanks but they're serviceable and they'll take a pounding. Dell usually has illustrated service guides available for their hardware, too. There's a reason I always recommend them over HP.

[da na]

14 minutes ago, Needfuldoer said:

I wonder if this is why they visited LMG last week. (Linus mentioned it on WAN Show.)

 

We had a fleet of those deployed for mobile video editing workstations. They're tanks but they're serviceable and they'll take a pounding. Dell usually has illustrated service guides available for their hardware, too. There's a reason I always recommend them over HP.

I've got an m6700 and I use it for video editing when away from boarding school. M6800 from what I understand takes the 6700 and just packs a newer GPU and CPU. 

[8tg]

Like example, the Thinkpad X210

https://www.xyte.ch/mods/x210-x2100/

This is a thinkpad X200/x201s based machine, those original models being from 2008.

With a full suite mod to bring it to mobile 10th gen, with a 3x2k ips panel, modern I/o and even type c charging.

This has been done by hobbyists, these machines are hobbyist machines. All framework has done is take this concept and make it more user accessible, though not in the platform of an actually good laptop.

Theyre fairly mid tier consumer laptops that you happen to be able to service yourself a bit easier than most consumer laptops, and not a lot more.

[sub68]

3 hours ago, nathanbasset said:

From what I've seen recently in the laptop space, this machine rivals desktop levels of customizability and repair not echoed by any other manufacturer. 

Lenovo, and ibm thinkpads come to mind.

I need to get this t23 to be repaired but I have experienced working with lenovo 11e 3rd gen chromebooks they are the most easy to repair laptop I have ever seen.

Panasonic toughbooks also come to mind. 

Like @da nasaid those dell pressions we had a couple and those are also easy to repair.

[porina]

Watched the PCWorld video on the 16 earlier, then found this thread. It's not clear to me how big the laptop is. Maybe it is an optical trick due to the proportions but it looks too thin to me, combined with modularity I have to question how effective it can be at running a decent CPU and GPU. I'll await more details on what options there are but it seems the dream of a well performing customisable higher end gaming laptop isn't quite here yet.

[Blademaster91]

On 3/23/2023 at 7:49 PM, nathanbasset said:

From what I've seen recently in the laptop space, this machine rivals desktop levels of customizability and repair not echoed by any other manufacturer. 

I think people are missing the point on this, no other manufacturer is making a repairable or modular customizable laptop in the consumer laptop market. I really would've liked to see Framework make the 16 inch version a business grade laptop, although I would expect companies to stick Dell or Lenovo for contracts,service support, and their pricing discounts, so targeting the consumer market makes a lot more sense.

I like the idea of being able to buy a used Dell Latitude or Lenovo Thinkpad,  and put more ram and a SSD into it, its a lot cheaper than buying new, but even business grade laptops from Dell and Lenovo have went towards soldered on RAM, also build quality has gotten worse, unless you're willing to spend more on a Thinkpad P series.

[nathanbasset]

Why are forum users so pretentious 

[Biohazard777]

4 hours ago, nathanbasset said:

Why are forum users so pretentious