Will a LGA1170 N3700 work in an LGA 1150 socket at all? (friend's pc may be screwed)

[OutsideOctaves]

His motherboard is an old 2013 dell motherboard 490P1, which info online seems to state that it's an 1150 socket, whereas his CPU is reported by windows as the N3700 which by info I can find online seems to be a 1170 socket.

 

His PC runs (sometimes for hours) and will randomly shut off according to him, though it seems to me via conversations that any time it gets taxed it will crash.  That told me originally that either the CPU is overheating or the PSU is dying... among other possibilities.  But when I did the research, those two socket types came up and ... if LGA1170 fits into an LGA1150 and could run, but would have issues then that may just be the issue solved potentially if it hasn't fricasseed the motherboard.

 

Any opinions on this?

 

UPDATE:

(I updated most of the relevant information below)  His CPU was a 4590 so it's an 1150 socket.  That whole thing of 1170 was windows misreporting as per usual...

[shoutingsteve]

The 1170 can't fit into the 1150.  There are physically more pins on it.
 

Regarding the crash cause, both of those are good guesses.  there are stress test programs out there that will test the CPU aggressively (and the ram, and the other stuff. too)  Just watch it to see where it crashes during the test.

[Godlygamer23]

What does CPU-Z show as the CPU?

[svmlegacy]

The Pentium N3700 is BGA1170, and is not socketed. There is absolutely no chance this is going to work in LGA1150, even if you got an interposer. The N3700 is a Braswell chip, completely different from Haswell or Broadwell.

 

On the case of your friends PC... The N3700 CPU is soldered to the motherboard, and isn't able to be changed without specialised tools.

 

I would recommend a fresh install of the OS and an inspection of the temperatures.

 

If they happen to be Linux - Braswell has a sleep state bug that will cause random crashes at idle. There are fixes for this if you search online.

[Godlygamer23]

6 minutes ago, svmlegacy said:

The Pentium N3700 is BGA1170, and is not socketed. There is absolutely no chance this is going to work in LGA1150, even if you got an interposer. The N3700 is a Braswell chip, completely different from Haswell or Broadwell.

 

On the case of your friends PC... The N3700 CPU is soldered to the motherboard, and isn't able to be changed without specialised tools.

 

I would recommend a fresh install of the OS and an inspection of the temperatures.

 

If they happen to be Linux - Braswell has a sleep state bug that will cause random crashes at idle. There are fixes for this if you search online.

The other issue is that if the motherboard is from 2013, it's impossible that it's an N3700 as Intel's product page shows it being launched in 2015, and of course it's a different socket type as well.

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/87261/intel-pentium-processor-n3700-2m-cache-up-to-2-40-ghz/specifications.html

 

Another issue is there seems to be conflicting information on what this motherboard actually is. I've seen LGA1150 and LGA1155 as the socket types. If it's from 2013, then it's probably LGA1150. It's possible there are different versions of these motherboards that Dell has released.

[svmlegacy]

6 minutes ago, Godlygamer23 said:

The other issue is that if the motherboard is from 2013, it's impossible that it's an N3700 as Intel's product page shows it being launched in 2015, and of course it's a different socket type as well.

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/87261/intel-pentium-processor-n3700-2m-cache-up-to-2-40-ghz/specifications.html

 

Another issue is there seems to be conflicting information on what this motherboard actually is. I've seen LGA1150 and LGA1155 as the socket types. If it's from 2013, then it's probably LGA1150. It's possible there are different versions of these motherboards that Dell has released.

Agreed. I was going with the Windows CPU report as the most trustworthy information, as that's unlikely to change if it is indeed an N3700.

[OutsideOctaves]

OK, I found a few things that make sense:

 

Windows was misreporting the CPU, CPU-Z (which thanks for the shout out, but I'm nerd enough to know about that one already as I had him go for that when he could and ...)

 

He actually has an i5 4590.  I thought it would be that it was misreporting but at the same time, I thought I'd check.  I've heard of come CPUs fitting in sockets not meant for it and running but with... substandard results and crashes so that's why I thought to ask about it.  Thanks for the information though.

 

I've given him instructions on how to unzip the prime95 latest build and do a quick test with it.  If it crashes here because of high temps then that's our culprit... being as old as it is, anyone else think a new application of thermal compound would be something to try before dolling out for a proper air cooled tower or AIO?... that is if it ends up being a heat issue... if it's the PSU well that's easy enough.  Hope it's not a dieing CPU...

[Godlygamer23]

18 minutes ago, OutsideOctaves said:

I've given him instructions on how to unzip the prime95 latest build and do a quick test with it.  If it crashes here because of high temps then that's our culprit... being as old as it is, anyone else think a new application of thermal compound would be something to try before dolling out for a proper air cooled tower or AIO?... that is if it ends up being a heat issue... if it's the PSU well that's easy enough.  Hope it's not a dieing CPU...

What does his CPU idle at?