What Ryzen 5000 cpu to go for?

[Datrat]

I plan to upgrade from my 3400g to the most recent gen supported by my b450i aorus motherboard. I don't know if I want to give up integrated graphics in case I need to troubleshoot, but the 5700x lookin like a steal right now.

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/g94BD3,ycGbt6,JmhFf7/

 

I feel the 30 dollar increase is probably worth it but I haven't paid attention too much.

This is the current system: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Pbsp6r

I do plan in the future to replace the motherboard and likely cpu when direct storage is a thing, after buying an NVME drive with a dram cache, but that isn't a concern right now. I think this is the most important upgrade right now.

[YoungBlade]

Your part list is set to private, so I can't see what your current system is like.

 

Assuming you have the GPU fire power to back it up, the 5700X can be a worthwhile upgrade over the 5600X. The real competition, though is with the 5600 non-X, as that part performs basically the same as the 5600X while costing less - in this case, $17 less again. If you want that extra 2% performance, you can just turn on PBO and you'll basically have a 5600X.

 

I'd say that if you have a 6700XT, RTX 3060Ti, RTX 2080 or better, you should just go with the 5700X over the 5600. Anything less than that, and you can just go with the Ryzen 5 5600 - there won't really be any difference in performance.

 

If you're worried about troubleshooting, pick up an old card like a Quadro 600 or Quadro K400 or something off of eBay for $10 and keep it in a drawer. That's a better troubleshooting solution, anyway, as it can be used in any system - iGPU or no.

 

While I think an upgrade over your 3400G is certainly warranted, if you're planning on replacing the motherboard, don't go with an AM4 one. Just get AM5 or LGA1700 instead. Any in-socket upgrade past a 5700X is minimal.

[TacoSenpai]

I agree with YoungBlade I built a rig with a RTX 3070 and have a 5600X.  Works wonderful but if I did it over I might have gone with a 5700X.  You will be fine either way.  

 

FYI I went from a 1800X and GTX 1080 which I'm now planning to sell and I kinda needed a new rig in a pinch.  

[Datrat]

4 minutes ago, YoungBlade said:

I'd say that if you have a 6700XT, RTX 3060Ti, RTX 2080 or better, you should just go with the 5700X over the 5600. Anything less than that, and you can just go with the Ryzen 5 5600 - there won't really be any difference in performance.

 

While I think an upgrade over your 3400G is certainly warranted, if you're planning on replacing the motherboard, don't go with an AM4 one. Just get AM5 or LGA1700 instead. Any in-socket upgrade past a 5700X is minimal.

I edited the list link, but its an EVGA RTX 2080 XC. I was hoping to spend less money to get a temp fix, but I do know that it doesn't make sense long-term. I was hoping to keep my 32gb of ram longer so I would lean Intel 13th gen, but that requires a lot more of an investment, and I don't really want to stay ITX.

[YoungBlade]

2 minutes ago, Datrat said:

I edited the list link, but its an EVGA RTX 2080 XC. I was hoping to spend less money to get a temp fix, but I do know that it doesn't make sense long-term. I was hoping to keep my 32gb of ram longer so I would lean Intel 13th gen, but that requires a lot more of an investment, and I don't really want to stay ITX.

If you're strapped for cash, but your current system can't do what you need it to do, then you can just go with the Ryzen 5 5600. You honestly won't lose that much performance vs the 5700X and it'll save you $50. The 3400G is going for $70+ on eBay, so you can recoup half of the money it costs to get the 5600.

Then you can start saving up for a more substantial upgrade. Given the level of competition in the CPU space right now, I fully expect 14th gen vs 8000 series to give us another 15-30% jump in performance, which will give you the option of getting something even more substantial if you can afford it, or you can probably pick up a used 7000 series chip for cheap when people start upgrading.

[Ripred]

5700x is a nice chip and should keep up through most of am5 depending on your resolution, if you can scrape a few more dollars and slam in a X3D or a 5900x all the better to skip am5 and wait until second gen am6 

[Datrat]

8 minutes ago, YoungBlade said:

If you're strapped for cash, but your current system can't do what you need it to do, then you can just go with the Ryzen 5 5600. You honestly won't lose that much performance vs the 5700X and it'll save you $50. The 3400G is going for $70+ on eBay, so you can recoup half of the money it costs to get the 5600.

Then you can start saving up for a more substantial upgrade. Given the level of competition in the CPU space right now, I fully expect 14th gen vs 8000 series to give us another 15-30% jump in performance, which will give you the option of getting something even more substantial if you can afford it, or you can probably pick up a used 7000 series chip for cheap when people start upgrading.

I was planning on selling the old one to recoup, my older brother has a 5600x which maybe I could snipe if he upgrades, but he is in his last semester at Purdue for CS so that might be a little wait. I am looking to upgrade now cause Halo infinite pins my cpu at 1080p ~120fps. But the computer is barely usable outside that, firefox is so sluggish evern with youtube at <480p

 

I don't know if it is worth it buying all new/new-to-me locked into ITX which is inherently more expensive.

[YoungBlade]

8 minutes ago, Datrat said:

I was planning on selling the old one to recoup, my older brother has a 5600x which maybe I could snipe if he upgrades, but he is in his last semester at Purdue for CS so that might be a little wait. I am looking to upgrade now cause Halo infinite pins my cpu at 1080p ~120fps. But the computer is barely usable outside that, firefox is so sluggish evern with youtube at <480p

 

I don't know if it is worth it buying all new/new-to-me locked into ITX which is inherently more expensive.

I think for your current situation, you can certainly justify an upgrade. Whether or not you can afford it is a matter of your personal finances.

 

If you want to be able to watch videos while playing a game, even the 5600 should do fine - I personally don't get why you'd want to watch videos or otherwise multitask while playing a competitive shooter, but you do you.

 

Hardware Unboxed actually did a whole "multitasking benchmark" video with the 5600 vs 5700X, so you can check that out to see what the advantages/disadvantages of each option are:

 

[Datrat]

2 minutes ago, YoungBlade said:

If you want to be able to watch videos while playing a game, even the 5600 should do fine - I personally don't get why you'd want to watch videos or otherwise multitask while playing a competitive shooter, but you do you.

 

Really just WAN tbh

 

I will watch that video though.

 

Thanks for your assistance!

[YoungBlade]

6 minutes ago, Datrat said:

Really just WAN tbh

I get wanting to do something else while listening to the WAN Show, but a competitive shooter seems kind of odd to me.

 

When I'm playing Halo Infinite, I'm focusing on the game - I need to be able to hear footfalls and focus on what's happening with objectives - the only thing I would have going in the background is a voice chat with one of my friends. It would certainly hurt my performance in the game if I was listening to Linus almost destroy his entire career by mistaking the "Hard R" for "The R Word" - that would totally break my concentration when trying to snipe the guy holding the Oddball. I wouldn't even notice when one of his teammates comes up and melees me in the back.

 

But like I said, you do you. It's your gaming - I'm not here to judge. I'm just trying to help you figure out a good upgrade route that fits for your usecase.

[GuiltySpark_]

34 minutes ago, YoungBlade said:

If you're strapped for cash, but your current system can't do what you need it to do, then you can just go with the Ryzen 5 5600. You honestly won't lose that much performance vs the 5700X and it'll save you $50. The 3400G is going for $70+ on eBay, so you can recoup half of the money it costs to get the 5600.

Then you can start saving up for a more substantial upgrade. Given the level of competition in the CPU space right now, I fully expect 14th gen vs 8000 series to give us another 15-30% jump in performance, which will give you the option of getting something even more substantial if you can afford it, or you can probably pick up a used 7000 series chip for cheap when people start upgrading.

Where at the point now where its basically only 5600 or 5800x3D that make any sense based on budget. If you need the multicore performance for professional/production reasons, Zen4 makes far more sense than investing in 5950x. 

[Datrat]

4 hours ago, YoungBlade said:

I get wanting to do something else while listening to the WAN Show, but a competitive shooter seems kind of odd to me.

 

When I'm playing Halo Infinite, I'm focusing on the game - I need to be able to hear footfalls and focus on what's happening with objectives - the only thing I would have going in the background is a voice chat with one of my friends. It would certainly hurt my performance in the game if I was listening to Linus almost destroy his entire career by mistaking the "Hard R" for "The R Word" - that would totally break my concentration when trying to snipe the guy holding the Oddball. I wouldn't even notice when one of his teammates comes up and melees me in the back.

 

But like I said, you do you. It's your gaming - I'm not here to judge. I'm just trying to help you figure out a good upgrade route that fits for your usecase.

From my experience currently, I am not remotely close to the sandbagging of recent teamates. But I am not playing it super competitively, more as a fun game.