MSI B450m Mortar Max is it 5000 series ready ?

[NichVill]

Do i need to update bios or is it plug and play

[Levent]

AFAIK no B450 board comes with Zen3 compatible bios out of the box. Expect that you need to upgrade the BIOS before you can plug a Zen3 CPU in.

[Poinkachu]

35 minutes ago, NichVill said:

Do i need to update bios or is it plug and play

Even B550 still needs BIOS update sometimes.

[JKRsega]

Update to latest bios and you are away.  I'm running a 5700X on that very board.

[NichVill]

16 minutes ago, JKRsega said:

Update to latest bios and you are away.  I'm running a 5700X on that very board.

I dont have 3000 series cpu to update. Is there other way to update the board? 

[Poinkachu]

9 minutes ago, NichVill said:

I dont have 3000 series cpu to update. Is there other way to update the board? 

That model has a BIOS flashback button on the back, which means it can flash BIOS without any CPU.

 

The video below uses B550 Mortar, but the general idea & method is the same.

 

[NichVill]

4 hours ago, Poinkachu said:

That model has a BIOS flashback button on the back, which means it can flash BIOS without any CPU.

 

The video below uses B550 Mortar, but the general idea & method is the same.

 

Will my PC boot with 5000 series?

[Poinkachu]

1 minute ago, NichVill said:

Will my PC boot with 5000 series?

Without BIOS update? most likely not.

[NichVill]

3 minutes ago, Poinkachu said:

Without BIOS update? most likely not.

So what should I do? Plug in the flash drive? I think my PC needs to boot up to start updating? 

[Poinkachu]

20 minutes ago, NichVill said:

So what should I do? Plug in the flash drive? I think my PC needs to boot up to start updating? 

Have you watched the video ?

[freeagent]

IIRC Max boards are Zen 3 ready.

[JKRsega]

6 hours ago, freeagent said:

IIRC Max boards are Zen 3 ready.

Erm, no.  Mine had to be updated.  Maybe if it was B550.

[freeagent]

3 hours ago, JKRsega said:

Erm, no.  Mine had to be updated.  Maybe if it was B550.

Whoops my bad. When I was shopping for boards I thought the thing MSI had going for it was their max series supporting zen 3 out of the box. 

[JKRsega]

11 hours ago, freeagent said:

Whoops my bad. When I was shopping for boards I thought the thing MSI had going for it was their max series supporting zen 3 out of the box. 

Can't ALWAYS be right.  You'll have to settle for 99% of the time, haha...

[Stormseeker9]

On 1/17/2023 at 9:36 AM, Levent said:

AFAIK no B450 board comes with Zen3 compatible bios out of the box. Expect that you need to upgrade the BIOS before you can plug a Zen3 CPU in.

Wasn’t the whole ‘max’ line released by MSI after issues with all zen 3 CPU’s on b450, consumers finding bios update a bit difficult and improved ram range?

 

iirc back then ‘max’ boards were shipped with a zen 3000 ready bios. Can of course understand that since then things may have changed including bios’. 

[Stormseeker9]

-nvm- brain fart haha

[Levent]

1 minute ago, Stormseeker9 said:

Wasn’t the whole ‘max’ line released by MSI after issues with all zen 3 CPU’s on b450, consumers finding bios update a bit difficult and improved ram range?

 

iirc back then ‘max’ boards were shipped with a zen 3000 ready bios. Can of course understand that since then things may have changed including bios’. 

Yeah that might be the case, though Zen 2 CPUs are 3000 ones. I havent seen a b450 board come with Zen3 (5000 series cpus) support out of the box.

 

[Stormseeker9]

Just now, Levent said:

Yeah that might be the case, though Zen 2 CPUs are 3000 ones. I havent seen a b450 board come with Zen3 (5000 series cpus) support out of the box.

 

Oh shit haha, I see where I went wrong  my bad!

 

I thought ryzen 2000 was zen 2… and thus 3000 zen 3. I forgot that zen 3 was a 5xxx SKU. 

as you can see, I haven’t built a new pc since then (sign)

[ewitte]

On 1/17/2023 at 8:03 AM, NichVill said:

So what should I do? Plug in the flash drive? I think my PC needs to boot up to start updating? 

For BIOS flashback you don't even need a CPU in the socket.  You will have to rely on update progress from LED lights as nothing will be on the screen.