Powerful Home Server

[IkeaGnome]

10 minutes ago, Peter_The_Ent said:

No. I want to know now. I know that everything I find out today will be "highly outdated" 10 years from now. If I wanted the specs for 10 years from now, I would have asked then.

No one is going to be able to help you if you don't tell them what you want to do with it, never mind that this is a "will be done in the future" build and things will change before then.

A top of the line storage server is going to be vastly different from a top of the line rendering server or a game server. 

[ToboRobot]

12 minutes ago, Peter_The_Ent said:

No. I want to know now. I know that everything I find out today will be "highly outdated" 10 years from now. If I wanted the specs for 10 years from now, I would have asked then.

Do the research yourself.  Have fun!

[Peter_The_Ent]

The server must have a total of 500 terabytes, with 100 percent redundancy. It must be capable of:

• AI/Deep Learning Training
• Business Intelligence & Analytics
• Conversational AI
• High Performance Computing
• Industrial Automation
• Cloud Gaming
• EDA (Electric Design Automation)
• High-availability Cache Cluster
• MEC (Multi-Access Edge Computing)
• Mission Critical Web Applications
• Multi-Purpose CDN
• Telco Edge Cloud
• Machine Learning
• Cloud Computing
• Enterprise Server
• Virtualization
• Edge Nodes
• Data Center Optimized
• Value IaaS
• DNS & Gateway Servers
• Firewall Application
• Web Server
• Firewall Application

[GuiltySpark_]

You are so far in over your head if this is at all serious, which I don't believe it to be, that you have no idea why none of that makes sense. 

[ToboRobot]

25 minutes ago, Peter_The_Ent said:

 

I will eventually purchase the server. And I currently do not have the funds to purchase a server, so I am doing it the only way I can.

No, there are other ways. 

You don't have the money to buy any server so discussions on the topic of the most powerful server are not the only way you can do this.

A) Go do some research yourself.  Your only source of information isn't LTT forums.  Go watch some videos.  Read things.  Use a search engine.  Find companies that make servers, and look at what they sell. 
B) come up with a realistic budget.  A server can be a big mainframe, or a U form factor rackmountable box, or it can be a tower, or a NUC, or a Raspberry Pi device running Linux.  You also need to understand your wants and needs for the device based on your workload.  The most powerful automobile could be a very fast sports car, or a really big and slow truck that pulls a lot of stuff.
C) get some practice.  Like I said in B, a server is many things.  So you might be able to start getting some practice and gaining experience with a device you already have or can get for cheap or free.

Computers are a great hobby and way to make money, but if you want to excel, you need to have an open mind to learning and finding solutions, rather than asking strangers to answer your demands without giving anything to the community.

[tkitch]

14 minutes ago, Peter_The_Ent said:

The server must have a total of 500 terabytes, with 100 percent redundancy. It must be capable of:

• AI/Deep Learning Training
• Business Intelligence & Analytics
• Conversational AI
• High Performance Computing
• Industrial Automation
• Cloud Gaming
• EDA (Electric Design Automation)
• High-availability Cache Cluster
• MEC (Multi-Access Edge Computing)
• Mission Critical Web Applications
• Multi-Purpose CDN
• Telco Edge Cloud
• Machine Learning
• Cloud Computing
• Enterprise Server
• Virtualization
• Edge Nodes
• Data Center Optimized
• Value IaaS
• DNS & Gateway Servers
• Firewall Application
• Web Server
• Firewall Application

 

Sooo...  The answer is no.  

 

You're making shit up, and just copying a list off of google now.  No, no you don't.

 

Go buy a raspberry Pi (or four) and you can mess around with a handful of these things.

 

Stop making shit up and be reasonable.

[Peter_The_Ent]

Not Google, SuperMicro. https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/aplus

These are the ones I chose.

Product Compare _ Supermicro.pdf

[Peter_The_Ent]

https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/aplus

[Jerakl]

1 hour ago, Takumidesh said:

why don't you buy a cheap computer or use an old computer as a server and then see if it can't meet your needs?

 

I used a $60 lenovo workstation pc as my server for about 2/3 years before I outgrew it.

I hosted game servers on my old gaming pc when I upgraded and it worked fine for a long time. 

 

 

The average person does not need enterprise grade server equipment for personal use. 

[da na]

for doing what? Linking a product page and providing no additional details of your application is unhelpful. 

What will you be doing on it? What's your budget? Et cetera...

[Peter_The_Ent]

16 minutes ago, Mel0n. said:

for doing what? Linking a product page and providing no additional details of your application is unhelpful. 

What will you be doing on it? What's your budget? Et cetera...

I want extra compute power, and will be doing some AI/ML on it. I don't want the budget to sway my decision. If I decide to purchase it (which I will once I obtain the funds) I will worry about money then.

[Takumidesh]

59 minutes ago, Peter_The_Ent said:

Industrial Automation

Whats your plan for industrial automation?

gonna run some PLCs? maybe a few Fanuc or ABB six axis robots?

 

also you want to do IaaS? you gonna be an ISP, or are you just trying to compete with digital ocean?

 

 

[Peter_The_Ent]

1 hour ago, Takumidesh said:

Whats your plan for industrial automation?

gonna run some PLCs? maybe a few Fanuc or ABB six axis robots?

 

also you want to do IaaS? you gonna be an ISP, or are you just trying to compete with digital ocean?

 

 

I have no clue what any of those abbreviations mean. I would be glad for you to explain them to me, though. By the way, I just went to 

https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/aplus

and copied all of the uses for the H13 series because no one was being helpful. If you know about servers, I would like you to help me with creating one. I just can't purchase it for a while, but would like to.

[Middcore]

2 minutes ago, Peter_The_Ent said:

I have no clue what any of those abbreviations mean.

 

Then you're not going to do industrial automation. 

 

We can safely assume you know just as much about everything else on that list you copied and pasted, which means you've still told us nothing about what you want to do.

 

It's like you have a vague idea a "server" is a computer-y thing and decided you therefore wanted a "server" and that's as much as you thought about it. 

[Takumidesh]

1 minute ago, Peter_The_Ent said:

I have no clue what any of those abbreviations mean. I would be glad for you to explain them to me, though. By the way, I just went to 

https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/aplus

and copied all of the uses for the H13 series because no one was being helpful. If you know about servers, I would like you to help me with creating one. I just can't purchase it for a while, but would like to.

Yea that was my point.

You are using terms and phrases for a thing you don't even know anything about.

 

It is fine if you don't know stuff, but just spewing words and letters and abbreviations won't lead to getting any help.

 

3 minutes ago, Peter_The_Ent said:

no one was being helpful.

When you are pressed on what you actually need, you posted a copy paste list filled with terms you don't know claiming you need this functionality. I am sure you didn't spend any time actually reading the list or you would see the obvious things that should be excluded from the list (like industrial automation)

 

You got the responses you got because your question was objectively bad.

 

Why don't you actually post, in real terms that you understand, what you feel like you could realistically accomplish with a home server. what are the things in your life currently that could be improved with having a server. What you actually want to accomplish.

 

9 minutes ago, Peter_The_Ent said:

I would like you to help me

If you want help from strangers and for them to dedicate time on you, you should put in an equal amount of effort.

 

"No good e'er comes of leisure purposeless; And heaven ne'er helps the men who will not act." -Sophocles

[Peter_The_Ent]

 

34 minutes ago, Takumidesh said:

"No good e'er comes of leisure purposeless; And heaven ne'er helps the men who will not act." -Sophocles

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1480947-powerful-home-server/

[Peter_The_Ent]

I want a home server that will act as a private storage server and provide extra computing power (both cpu and gpu). I can not build/buy it now, but want to now how much it would cost so I can save for it. Must be powerful.

[Takumidesh]

You started a new thread and then asked the same question, you still haven't specified what you want to do

2 minutes ago, Peter_The_Ent said:

provide extra computing power

for what?

3 minutes ago, Peter_The_Ent said:

Must be powerful.

Why? you STILL haven't said what you actually want to do with the server.

 

 

if you want a NAS, you can get a synology off the shelf.

 

 

 

[whispous]

1 hour ago, Peter_The_Ent said:

 

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1480947-powerful-home-server/

Explain what you want the server to do exactly, or you are trolling. You are repeatedly not answering what you want the server to exactly do. You are ignoring request after request for this information.

 

If you do not know, zero answers will be useful to you. There is no such thing as a _powerful server_. They do not exist. There are many many powerful servers for specific purposes. Name a detailed purpose.

 

If you do not know the detailed purpose, you will be blindly throwing thousands, tens of thousand or more at a non-specific chunk of hardware. Is this what you want to do?

If you want some random hardware that is not tailored to a specific purpose and therefore at a high risk of not doing what you want, please answer yes and we will all link some random server hardware.

[Dedayog]

1 hour ago, Peter_The_Ent said:

 

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1480947-powerful-home-server/

Well said...

 

Why don't you actually post, in real terms that you understand, what you feel like you could realistically accomplish with a home server. what are the things in your life currently that could be improved with having a server. What you actually want to accomplish.

[OddOod]

You could probably build a 4090/7950x rig for 3500, toss in an IT mode flashed LSI HBA with four external full size SAS ports for another 125. Grab a 24x3.5" diskshelf from a liquidation for 100 or a new one for 400, then add however many 16TB drives you need. The used ones I get are 180 per so you'll have to do some math.
Then pick your OS poison. Ubuntu is well supported in 7 years of running MDADM RAID I've had no problems that weren't caused by me and there's a lot of config you have to do, truenas is rocksteady storage in EZ mode but gorbaio at VMs/docker, Unraid is super user friendly and has a LOT of community support including an awesome array of preconfigured dockers but the entire thing runs off a fucking USB stick which are unacceptably flakey (I literally own two licenses because even the recommended usb sticks die within the one year transfer freeze).
Alternatively go with separation of concerns. Grab some old workstation tower for 100$, repaste the CPU, drop in the HBA, enough RAM to run it (4+2GB/drive), plus a 100$ 10G NIC,  and run truenas on that, then have the other rig run Unraid or some other virtualization friendly OS.

TLDR, this is a question wrongly asked

[Blue4130]

2 hours ago, Peter_The_Ent said:

I want a home server that will act as a private storage server and provide extra computing power (both cpu and gpu). I can not build/buy it now, but want to now how much it would cost so I can save for it. Must be powerful.

$142,553.36 plus tax.

[Peter_The_Ent]

5 hours ago, Peter_The_Ent said:

provide extra computing power

I will be using it for AI, ML, CAD, and video editing. And I did say what I will use it for, but the topic self deleted for some reason once I logged out of my computer, and I could not find it once I logged back on.

I want to access the storage in the same place as the computing power or I would just get a of the shelf NAS. I want to be able to use the server as you normally would as well as connecting it to my computer and it work as if it was the computer.

4 hours ago, OddOod said:

You could probably build a 4090/7950x rig for 3500, toss in an IT mode flashed LSI HBA with four external full size SAS ports for another 125. Grab a 24x3.5" diskshelf from a liquidation for 100 or a new one for 400, then add however many 16TB drives you need. The used ones I get are 180 per so you'll have to do some math.
Then pick your OS poison. Ubuntu is well supported in 7 years of running MDADM RAID I've had no problems that weren't caused by me and there's a lot of config you have to do, truenas is rocksteady storage in EZ mode but gorbaio at VMs/docker, Unraid is super user friendly and has a LOT of community support including an awesome array of preconfigured dockers but the entire thing runs off a fucking USB stick which are unacceptably flakey (I literally own two licenses because even the recommended usb sticks die within the one year transfer freeze).
Alternatively go with separation of concerns. Grab some old workstation tower for 100$, repaste the CPU, drop in the HBA, enough RAM to run it (4+2GB/drive), plus a 100$ 10G NIC,  and run truenas on that, then have the other rig run Unraid or some other virtualization friendly OS.

Good info.How would I use it for the above purposes?

[Blue4130]

11 minutes ago, Peter_The_Ent said:

I will be using it for AI, ML, CAD, and video editing. And I did say what I will use it for, but the topic self deleted for some reason once I logged out of my computer, and I could not find it once I logged back on.

I want to access the storage in the same place as the computing power or I would just get a of the shelf NAS. I want to be able to use the server as you normally would as well as connecting it to my computer and it work as if it was the computer.

So you will use a thin client and connect to the server?

[Peter_The_Ent]

3 hours ago, Blue4130 said:

$142,553.36 plus tax.

And where how have you come up with this price?