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ok im looking for watercooling parts. not chinese brands or ones from alibaba or w.e that scamming site is called. i want black soft tubes as thick and as big as i can possibly get it. dont ask why simple as i want it. i want to buy all my watercooling parts from one brand. so pump, water reservoir, tubing, fittings, rads. must sell to canada and be quality reliable parts no junk wanted please. not looking for the value menu here.

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5 minutes ago, leonardmartin29 said:

ok im looking for watercooling parts. not chinese brands or ones from alibaba or w.e that scamming site is called. i want black soft tubes as thick and as big as i can possibly get it. dont ask why simple as i want it. i want to buy all my watercooling parts from one brand. so pump, water reservoir, tubing, fittings, rads. must sell to canada and be quality reliable parts no junk wanted please. not looking for the value menu here.

Hopefully you have some money left over from your networking project... 

 

Just get EK blocks, pumps, and res. I wouldn't get everything from the same company though... I would go to alphacool for the radiators. Fittings, EK is fine, but there are so many companies that do fittings well, its really a personal preference. Tubing, Primoflex is what I always use.

 

There is no reason to get everyone from one brand since they all are better at certain things. Alphacool has fantastic all copper radiators, more or less the standard choice when you want quality. Whatever you do, make sure everything is copper. Copper (nickel platted is ok) blocks, and copper radiators. Do no mix metals, its just not worth it.... Especially when you have the money you claim to have.

 

Or, better yet, contact Puget Systems, and have them build you a fully custom loop system and they will warranty it etc.

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2 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

Hopefully you have some money left over from your networking project... 

 

Just get EK blocks, pumps, and res. I wouldn't get everything from the same company though... I would go to alphacool for the radiators. Fittings, EK is fine, but there are so many companies that do fittings well, its really a personal preference. Tubing, Primoflex is what I always use.

 

There is no reason to get everyone from one brand since they all are better at certain things. Alphacool has fantastic all copper radiators, more or less the standard choice when you want quality. Whatever you do, make sure everything is copper. Copper (nickel platted is ok) blocks, and copper radiators. Do no mix metals, its just not worth it.... Especially when you have the money you claim to have.

 

Or, better yet, contact Puget Systems, and have them build you a fully custom loop system and they will warranty it etc.

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Titanrig. Not many brands make all their own stuff and most don’t with rebranding. Ekwb is a great choice. Blocks and tubing are great. Prefer their 140mm rads. Fittings are top tier and the pumps and res’s are all the same. Singularity computers make more fancy stuff. Should still be on that site. 

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i wouldn't recommend sticking to 1 brand, all my parts are more than 1 year old now still working fine as day 1

  • cpu blocks: corsair xc7 pro, ek supremacy, bitspower summit m acrylic
  • gpu blocks: expensive ones ek & bitspower, i personally use bykski
  • res pump combo: corsair xd5 (comes with mount & temp sensor), ek revo d5 xtop (no fan mount)
  • rad: hardware labs (they oem for bitspower & corsair), bykski, barrow, ek
  • fittings: barrow, bykski
  • soft tubing: ek zmt, watercool epdm, alphacool epdm, mayhems ultraclear
  • sensors: aquacomputer high flow 2, quadro
  • fans: arctic p12, arctic p14, phanteks t30, noctua redux, vento pro 120 pwm (these are nidec gentle typhoons)
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EK ZMT is a crap chute on quality and sizing (why many have issues screwing down their non-EK compressions with it). For black tubing, I definitely still recommend you look at the EPDM/Neoprene/Norprene style. But I'd look at the Watercool or Alphacool EPDM, or else buy industrial Tygon A-60-G (you can remove the white lettering on it with a magic eraser). Any of those choices are MUCH better than EK ZMT.

 

In fact, I have in general had poor experiences with quality control and longevity of EK products, so I would not just say "go with EK" like other have.

 

I would also not recommend Corsair pumps as they are not rated for the same flow/pressure as regular D5's, yet cost the same or more.

 

My recommendations:

 

Blocks: Heatkiller, TechN, Optimus

Radiators: Hardware Labs, Alphacool

Fittings: Bitspower, Monsoon

Pump/Res: Aquacomputer Ultitube, Heatkiller

Tubing: Watercool or Alphacool EPDM, Tygon A-60-G or similar from hardware store for maintenance free style tubing. Mayhems UltraClear for Clear

Coolant: Either a clear premix: Mayhems X1, XT-1, ModMyMods Mod Water, or Koolance 702. Or can also look at distilled with Mayhems Hades+ (biocide) and Inhibitor +. Avoid EK Cryofuel. Makes you cry alright when it gunks up your loop.

Flow and temperature sensors: Aquacomputer. The cheaper and more easily found Bykski, Barrow, Barrowch just can't compete with Aquacomputer on sensor accuracy

 

 

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Test Bench: 

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Motherboards: ASUS Z97-Deluxe, EVGA Z490 Dark, EVGA Z790 Dark Kingpin

GPUs: GTX 275 (RIP), 2x GTX 560, GTX 570, 2x GTX 650 Ti Boost, GTX 980, Titan X (Maxwell), x2 HD 6850

Bench: Cooler Master Masterframe 700 (bench mode)

Cooling: Heatkiller IV Pro Pure Copper | Koolance GPU-210 | HWLabs L-Series 360 | XSPC EX360 | Aquacomputer D5 | Bitspower Water Tank Z-Multi 250 | Monsoon Free Center Compressions | Mayhems UltraClear | 9x Arctic P12 120mm PWM PST

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Should be using barb fittings with zmt anyway. Compression is overrated. Bitspower bulti barb is the way to go for that. Hard to mess up with that and looks much better.
Every product has a quality issue if we add the user error factor that always pops up on forums like this. 

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20 minutes ago, Mick Naughty said:

Should be using barb fittings with zmt anyway. Compression is overrated. Bitspower bulti barb is the way to go for that. Hard to mess up with that and looks much better.
Every product has a quality issue if we add the user error factor that always pops up on forums like this. 

Also many reports of ZMT "shedding" off bits of rubber into people's loops that then get caught up in the jet plates of the blocks. That's not quality material/manufacturing. 

 

Then many others have no problems at all with ZMT.

 

It's a crap chute.

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CPUs: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400, Core i5-2400, Core i7-4790K, Core i9-10900K, Core i3-13100, Core i9-13900KS

Motherboards: ASUS Z97-Deluxe, EVGA Z490 Dark, EVGA Z790 Dark Kingpin

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Bench: Cooler Master Masterframe 700 (bench mode)

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22 minutes ago, Sir Beregond said:

Also many reports of ZMT "shedding" off bits of rubber into people's loops that then get caught up in the jet plates of the blocks. That's not quality material/manufacturing. 

 

Then many others have no problems at all with ZMT.

 

It's a crap chute.

Yea I had the same issue on multiple rigs. Better than the leaching I’ve had from everyone’s clear tubing. Every product seems to be a crap chute with enough bad statistics. 

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2 hours ago, Mick Naughty said:

Yea I had the same issue on multiple rigs. Better than the leaching I’ve had from everyone’s clear tubing. Every product seems to be a crap chute with enough bad statistics. 

Not Tygon A-60-G or Watercool EPDM.

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Test Bench: 

CPUs: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400, Core i5-2400, Core i7-4790K, Core i9-10900K, Core i3-13100, Core i9-13900KS

Motherboards: ASUS Z97-Deluxe, EVGA Z490 Dark, EVGA Z790 Dark Kingpin

GPUs: GTX 275 (RIP), 2x GTX 560, GTX 570, 2x GTX 650 Ti Boost, GTX 980, Titan X (Maxwell), x2 HD 6850

Bench: Cooler Master Masterframe 700 (bench mode)

Cooling: Heatkiller IV Pro Pure Copper | Koolance GPU-210 | HWLabs L-Series 360 | XSPC EX360 | Aquacomputer D5 | Bitspower Water Tank Z-Multi 250 | Monsoon Free Center Compressions | Mayhems UltraClear | 9x Arctic P12 120mm PWM PST

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8 hours ago, Sir Beregond said:

Not Tygon A-60-G or Watercool EPDM.

Sure. Based off what?

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ied spend the moeny on competition fittings as the look better are way simpler and if its a small loop only need 6. i would have dose so too but i have 70+ fittings in my build or was now its probly like 80 to 90 hmm might just go for the 100 fitting bench mark...

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10 hours ago, Sir Beregond said:

Not Tygon A-60-G or Watercool EPDM.

my alphacool 10/16mm epdm also no such issue, maybe it's just EK QC issue

 

i too have setup a few test loop using barb fittings & mayhems ultraclear, no issue so far

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9 hours ago, Mick Naughty said:

Sure. Based off what?

Tygon is industrial tubing. It HAS to be properly spec'd to its rated ID/OD.

6 hours ago, fonzz1e said:

my alphacool 10/16mm epdm also no such issue, maybe it's just EK QC issue

 

i too have setup a few test loop using barb fittings & mayhems ultraclear, no issue so far

Yep, that's good stuff too. You don't hear of Tygon, Watercool, Alphacool EPDM users complaining about not being able to screw down their compressions. You sure do with EK ZMT users.

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Test Bench: 

CPUs: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400, Core i5-2400, Core i7-4790K, Core i9-10900K, Core i3-13100, Core i9-13900KS

Motherboards: ASUS Z97-Deluxe, EVGA Z490 Dark, EVGA Z790 Dark Kingpin

GPUs: GTX 275 (RIP), 2x GTX 560, GTX 570, 2x GTX 650 Ti Boost, GTX 980, Titan X (Maxwell), x2 HD 6850

Bench: Cooler Master Masterframe 700 (bench mode)

Cooling: Heatkiller IV Pro Pure Copper | Koolance GPU-210 | HWLabs L-Series 360 | XSPC EX360 | Aquacomputer D5 | Bitspower Water Tank Z-Multi 250 | Monsoon Free Center Compressions | Mayhems UltraClear | 9x Arctic P12 120mm PWM PST

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