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16 minutes ago, OddOod said:

What are your peak temps when running Haven? Keep HWMonitor open when you run it

My temps are fairly normal even when I'm running something crazy demanding

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18 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Many shots in the dark here...

Everything being slow is also a bad mobo "feature", what's yours ?

 

And what cooling and temps do you have ?

I have a kraken cooler and the motherboard is ASRock B365M Pro4-F

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20 minutes ago, OddOod said:

Then ask for more help. Trying a fresh install is often a good move

I already tried that earlier and nothing happened. See I even took it to a computer shop and they couldn't figure it out.

 

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37 minutes ago, aurosan said:

My temps are fairly normal even when I'm running something crazy demanding

"fairly normal" isn't a good number to use. What exact temps are you getting?

What power supply do you have? If it's having issues with transient spikes off the 3070 ti you can run into power draw issues as well. How many cables do you have going from the power supply to the GPU?

If you run Hwinfo in Sensors Only mode, do you get any performance cap reasons? If possible, run Heaven benchmark with HWinfo open in the background. Once you do that, take some screen shots of the readouts on the sensors. Particularly for CPU, Motherboard and GPU then post here. 
Also, make sure that XMP is enabled on that RAM. Looks like it's not.

I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

I will find your mentions of Ikea or Gnome and I will /s post. 

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Why is the 5800x so hot?

 

 

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On 6/28/2022 at 8:24 PM, aurosan said:

 

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This score looks very normal to me.

It's not a high clocking chip when defaults.

6 and 8 core boosts are 4.6ghz.

Using 4 cores is 4.7ghz

2 cores is 4.8ghz

A single core boost is 4.9ghz. 

 

Though it may be capable of an all core 5ghz overclock, It'll probably run warm/hot. 

But no mention of cooling.

Your system specs at the original post are a Cpu and a Gpu. You left everything else out.

 

I don't really see anything wrong other than missing the tweaking to get the performance from your setup.

But it would be cool to see a few more benchmarks, so far nothing stands out. I'm thinking your issue is not hardware related, because the benchmarks look pretty decent. Average for sure. 

 

 

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16 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

"fairly normal" isn't a good number to use. What exact temps are you getting?

What power supply do you have? If it's having issues with transient spikes off the 3070 ti you can run into power draw issues as well. How many cables do you have going from the power supply to the GPU?

If you run Hwinfo in Sensors Only mode, do you get any performance cap reasons? If possible, run Heaven benchmark with HWinfo open in the background. Once you do that, take some screen shots of the readouts on the sensors. Particularly for CPU, Motherboard and GPU then post here. 
Also, make sure that XMP is enabled on that RAM. Looks like it's not.

It's around 60 C. I have an 800 watt power supply bronze rated. I have two which power the gpu.No I don't get performance caps. Will do give me a momento.

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There is no xmp option in my bios under oc tweaker I checked so I'm not sure what else to do I also found that with asrock I'm not able to control my cpu overclock.

 

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32 minutes ago, --SID-- said:

Enable XMP.

There is no xmp option for me 

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32 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

"fairly normal" isn't a good number to use. What exact temps are you getting?

What power supply do you have? If it's having issues with transient spikes off the 3070 ti you can run into power draw issues as well. How many cables do you have going from the power supply to the GPU?

If you run Hwinfo in Sensors Only mode, do you get any performance cap reasons? If possible, run Heaven benchmark with HWinfo open in the background. Once you do that, take some screen shots of the readouts on the sensors. Particularly for CPU, Motherboard and GPU then post here. 
Also, make sure that XMP is enabled on that RAM. Looks like it's not.

I can do the benchmark again but I didn't see xmp in my asrock bios

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7 minutes ago, aurosan said:

I can do the benchmark again but I didn't see xmp in my asrock bios

What motherboard do you have?

I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

I will find your mentions of Ikea or Gnome and I will /s post. 

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Why is the 5800x so hot?

 

 

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3 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

What motherboard do you have?

ASRock B365M Pro4-F

Here are the results of the test

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5 minutes ago, aurosan said:

ASRock B365M Pro4-F

That board won't allow for XMP. I'd like to see more of this screen below.

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Seems like your CPU isn't going to full utilization. 

I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

I will find your mentions of Ikea or Gnome and I will /s post. 

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Why is the 5800x so hot?

 

 

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1 minute ago, IkeaGnome said:

That board won't allow for XMP. I'd like to see more of this screen below.

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Seems like your CPU isn't going to full utilization. 

Yeah I've been trying to figure this out for months and months and I'm just exhausted with it all.

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1 minute ago, aurosan said:

Yeah I've been trying to figure this out for months and months and I'm just exhausted with it all.

This was after you ran Heaven while having HWinfo open? Your GPU was at idle pretty much through that. I don't see how you got the scores that you did.

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I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

I will find your mentions of Ikea or Gnome and I will /s post. 

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Why is the 5800x so hot?

 

 

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3 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

This was after you ran Heaven while having HWinfo open? Your GPU was at idle pretty much through that. I don't see how you got the scores that you did.

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This was a few minutes after I can do another benchmark give me a second

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6 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

This was after you ran Heaven while having HWinfo open? Your GPU was at idle pretty much through that. I don't see how you got the scores that you did.

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A couple quick things I noticed.

In a benchmark that more or less relies on your GPU, your VRAM is getting fairly hot. I'd be willing to bet that under a longer load they are hitting 100C and limiting CPU performance. This could be the cause of the 5fps low you saw in the benchmark. That motherboard doesn't have any heat sinks on the VRMs and having an AIO you're not getting much airflow over it depending on your case and fan configuration. You could try pointing a case fan towards the part of the motherboard I circled in blue.

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Your GPU is also hitting a performance cap. Can you make it to where you can read what is cut off after "Performance lim..." under the GPU? Is it unstable power? 

 

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For the most part it looks like there is just a couple little hiccups to fix that should be causing your issues.

I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

I will find your mentions of Ikea or Gnome and I will /s post. 

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Why is the 5800x so hot?

 

 

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1 minute ago, IkeaGnome said:

A couple quick things I noticed.

In a benchmark that more or less relies on your GPU, your VRAM is getting fairly hot. I'd be willing to bet that under a longer load they are hitting 100C and limiting CPU performance. This could be the cause of the 5fps low you saw in the benchmark. That motherboard doesn't have any heat sinks on the VRMs and having an AIO you're not getting much airflow over it depending on your case and fan configuration. You could try pointing a case fan towards the part of the motherboard I circled in blue.

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Your GPU is also hitting a performance cap. Can you make it to where you can read what is cut off after "Performance lim..." under the GPU? Is it unstable power? 

 

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For the most part it looks like there is just a couple little hiccups to fix that should be causing your issues.

You got it

 

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3 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

A couple quick things I noticed.

In a benchmark that more or less relies on your GPU, your VRAM is getting fairly hot. I'd be willing to bet that under a longer load they are hitting 100C and limiting CPU performance. This could be the cause of the 5fps low you saw in the benchmark. That motherboard doesn't have any heat sinks on the VRMs and having an AIO you're not getting much airflow over it depending on your case and fan configuration. You could try pointing a case fan towards the part of the motherboard I circled in blue.

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image.png.54b89f53e7204eb7b6c7411ee6333f8d.png

image.png.8570e6256243a119316e78a8f4275379.png

Your GPU is also hitting a performance cap. Can you make it to where you can read what is cut off after "Performance lim..." under the GPU? Is it unstable power? 

 

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For the most part it looks like there is just a couple little hiccups to fix that should be causing your issues.

This is not a run directly after a heaven benchmark

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5 minutes ago, aurosan said:

This is not a run directly after a heaven benchmark

That's fine. It saves minimum, maximum and averages. The GPU is getting unstable power.

1 hour ago, aurosan said:

I have an 800 watt power supply bronze rated.

Which exact power supply do you have?

To me, it looks like you don't have a power supply that actually can handle the 3070ti even though it "has enough wattage." My guess would be that it's a low quality unit. Combine that with your VRM temps and both your 3070 ti and 9700k won't stay at full power. 

I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

I will find your mentions of Ikea or Gnome and I will /s post. 

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CPU 13900k, Motherboard Gigabyte Aorus Elite AX, RAM CORSAIR Vengeance 4x16gb 5200 MHZ, GPU Zotac RTX 4090 Trinity OC, Case Fractal Pop Air XL, Storage Sabrent Rocket Q4 2tb, CORSAIR Force Series MP510 1920GB NVMe, CORSAIR FORCE Series MP510 960GB NVMe, PSU CORSAIR HX1000i, Cooling Corsair XC8 CPU block, Bykski GPU block, 360mm and 280mm radiator, Displays Odyssey G9, LG 34UC98-W 34-Inch,Keyboard Mountain Everest Max, Mouse Mountain Makalu 67, Sound AT2035, Massdrop 6xx headphones, Go XLR 

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Why is the 5800x so hot?

 

 

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15 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

That's fine. It saves minimum, maximum and averages. The GPU is getting unstable power.

Which exact power supply do you have?

To me, it looks like you don't have a power supply that actually can handle the 3070ti even though it "has enough wattage." My guess would be that it's a low quality unit. Combine that with your VRM temps and both your 3070 ti and 9700k won't stay at full power. 

It's an evaga 850 GT I think

 

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If you want to see the performance cap reason on your GPU, use GPU-Z and hit the sensors tab.

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48 minutes ago, Guest 5150 said:

If you want to see the performance cap reason on your GPU, use GPU-Z and hit the sensors tab.

I'm not sure what looks to be out of place though

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