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  1. 1. Would you choose ryzen 7000 or intel 13th gen core

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Ok, so say someone wanted to build a new pc, should they go for ryzen 7000, r perhaps 13th gen core when that comes out 

 

use any and all information available to you to decide as the month this was posted in 

Imagine everything i have written in a Linus Voice/ linus tone (Spock live long and prosper gif here ,idk why tho, i guess i just want to say that i like star trek and am waiting for new seasons of the ongoing shows), But seriously, a lot of what i type only makes sense when said in a Linus tone from an older ltt video (circa 2017-2019) basically before he got a beard and a lot of it should make sense even in a Linus with a beard face.

also note as per the latest typing test on my laptop, my accuracy is 69%

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It all comes down to price and performance. You're also comparing product that don't exist on the market yet.

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Let me rub my magic ball to ask which one performs better.

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7 minutes ago, Levent said:

Let me rub my magic ball to ask which one performs better.

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Let's ask the magic 8 Ball!

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1 hour ago, Levent said:

Let me rub my magic ball to ask which one performs better.

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Well we saw what Ryzen 7000 had to offer on Computex, really disappointed tbh. The single core performance is barely matching i9 12900k, so unless intel somehow blunders more that that, the intel 13th gen is the way to go. [or if amd is really cheap, but i doubt that]

Here is info directly from AMD:

16core 7950x vs 16core 5950x.

7950x ran at 5.5ghz, with ddr5 6000mhz cl30.

5950x ran at 4.9ghx, with ddr4 who cares.

The performance uplift (combined frequency and ipc) was 15%, but we can see that the frequency difference between the 2 chips is more than 10%. So ipc improvement this gen is barely 5%, if that.

 

So it will be funny that the 5800x3D will beat the "next gen" chips in quite some games.

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It's just stupid to pick either side without seeing what they bring to the table.

From what AMD showed at computex this far Ryzen 7000 looks rather weak and feels more like Zen3+.

Now we have to wait for something official on 13th gen from Intel. I don't think Intel will be as underwhelming as AMD but who knows wouldn't be the first time Intel drops the ball. 

After that you will know what to expect from the next generations but you still don't know what they will sell for. Which is probably the most crucial information for a buying decision.

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Well we can't say for 7000/13th gen. But for 12th gen/Zen3

 

You can't really go wrong so get the one you like/can afford.

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5 hours ago, Rauten said:

I recommend VIA

I do not recommend VIA

what is VIA?

Imagine everything i have written in a Linus Voice/ linus tone (Spock live long and prosper gif here ,idk why tho, i guess i just want to say that i like star trek and am waiting for new seasons of the ongoing shows), But seriously, a lot of what i type only makes sense when said in a Linus tone from an older ltt video (circa 2017-2019) basically before he got a beard and a lot of it should make sense even in a Linus with a beard face.

also note as per the latest typing test on my laptop, my accuracy is 69%

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5 hours ago, Rauten said:

I recommend VIA

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12 minutes ago, Indian pc builder said:

what is VIA?

I remember back in the day, I had mostly VIA chipsets for my AMD XP processors.

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3 hours ago, Indian pc builder said:

what is VIA?

They were/are another x86 CPU manufacturer. Back in the 90s, VIA was still relevant in the consumer desktop space. Today, they still exist, and even make CPUs, but they aren't widely used. They still make other products, like various chipsets, but even in that they aren't as big as they used to be.

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3 hours ago, Shimmy Gummi said:

I remember back in the day, I had mostly VIA chipsets for my AMD XP processors.

You wanted NForce II for the overclocking though. 

 

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6 hours ago, Montana One-Six said:

It's just stupid to pick either side without seeing what they bring to the table.

From what AMD showed at computex this far Ryzen 7000 looks rather weak and feels more like Zen3+.

Now we have to wait for something official on 13th gen from Intel. I don't think Intel will be as underwhelming as AMD but who knows wouldn't be the first time Intel drops the ball. 

After that you will know what to expect from the next generations but you still don't know what they will sell for. Which is probably the most crucial information for a buying decision.

Intel already showed off an 8P+16E-cores CPU, so even at a worst case scenario we will be getting Alder Lake with double the E-cores.

ngcb1

They also claim that "Up to double digit performance boost" which seems to be in SPECint_rate_2017 comparing that 8+16 CPU against the 12900K, but it doesn't seem to specify on what test exactly, so it could just be Blender for all we know.

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8 minutes ago, KaitouX said:

Intel already showed off an 8P+16E-cores CPU, so even at a worst case scenario we will be getting Alder Lake with double the E-cores.

 

They also claim that "Up to double digit performance boost" which seems to be in SPECint_rate_2017 comparing that 8+16 CPU against the 12900K, but it doesn't seem to specify on what test exactly, so it could just be Blender for all we know.

More E-Cores?

 

Yep that does it, going with AMD 7000, cause F all that noise.

 

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5 hours ago, Guest 5150 said:

More E-Cores?

 

Yep that does it, going with AMD 7000, cause F all that noise.

Well from what I saw, AMD isn't claiming a 15% IPC increase, but a 15% "Single Core Performance" increase over 5950x. Which takes IPC and Frequency into account. Given AMD made this claim based on CBR23, and given the 12900KS already is 30%+ faster than 5950z in single threaded CBR23, I am not expecting much in terms of performance over 12th gen, let alone 13th gen.

 

In my opinion, unless AMD's 7000 series defeats Intel core for core, which it doesn't seem to, it will have only a small market share. Only for those who can leverage ALL of the cores, and the 16 core will be better than the 13900k with only 8 P-cores and 16 E-cores.

 

For gamers and light users, given what we know, they'll want the i7 over the 12-core equivalent from AMD as it will outperform in games more than likely.

 

Additionally, as AM5 is DDR5 ONLY, it would seem they are shutting themselves off of the budget segment. They'll lose to last gen 12400s or 13400s with DDR4 until DDR5 prices come down, which may be a while.

 

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I'll pick whichever less quirky, and provide longer socket support.
Imma need to borrow @Levent's magic ball.

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19 minutes ago, Poinkachu said:

I'll pick whichever less quirky, and provide longer socket support.
Imma need to borrow @Levent's magic ball.

Lol pick one, not both.

 

AMD is usually quirky, but AM5 is gonna be around a lot longer based on history. Additionally, 13th gen is supposed to be compatible with LGA 1700 600/700 series boards, meaning it's going to be the last generation on this series.

 

14th is gonna get a new motherboard, if not a new socket as well.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Shimmy Gummi said:

Lol pick one, not both.

 

AMD is usually quirky, but AM5 is gonna be around a lot longer based on history. Additionally, 13th gen is supposed to be compatible with LGA 1700 600/700 series boards, meaning it's going to be the last generation on this series.

 

14th is gonna get a new motherboard, if not a new socket as well.

 

 

Well, I don't mind slight inconvenience.
Quirky for me is pretty much BSODs and Random Crashes often. 😂

I am still hoping for both. Don't kill my daydreaming  @Shimmy Gummi!! 😂
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1 hour ago, Shimmy Gummi said:

Well from what I saw, AMD isn't claiming a 15% IPC increase, but a 15% "Single Core Performance" increase over 5950x. Which takes IPC and Frequency into account. Given AMD made this claim based on CBR23, and given the 12900KS already is 30%+ faster than 5950z in single threaded CBR23, I am not expecting much in terms of performance over 12th gen, let alone 13th gen.

 

In my opinion, unless AMD's 7000 series defeats Intel core for core, which it doesn't seem to, it will have only a small market share. Only for those who can leverage ALL of the cores, and the 16 core will be better than the 13900k with only 8 P-cores and 16 E-cores.

 

For gamers and light users, given what we know, they'll want the i7 over the 12-core equivalent from AMD as it will outperform in games more than likely.

 

Additionally, as AM5 is DDR5 ONLY, it would seem they are shutting themselves off of the budget segment. They'll lose to last gen 12400s or 13400s with DDR4 until DDR5 prices come down, which may be a while.

 

You have to remember that single core performance is basically everything. Ecores may be excitable in use, for those applications that could utilize it, but why bother? You install less cores to conserve power, not add a bunch of low IPC cores that gamers aren't interested it. 

For home and office the escorts are great, but then the performance cores then aren't neccesary, why have them?

 

It's an interesting concept, hits 2 market segments but just at an increased cost.

 

AM5 is supposedly geared to DDr5 memory overclocking as well. This will be interesting to see unfold actually. Will the IMC on AMD be better than Intels? 

 

We wait and see. 

 

If 5000 series drop well after AM5, I have 2 kids that could use upgrades from a 1400 and 2700x. So I would only buy into AMD for myself having the oldest setup 8700K.

 

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4 minutes ago, Guest 5150 said:

You have to remember that single core performance is basically everything. Ecores may be excitable in use, for those applications that could utilize it, but why bother? You install less cores to conserve power, not add a bunch of low IPC cores that gamers aren't interested it. 

For home and office the escorts are great, but then the performance cores then aren't neccesary, why have them?

 

It's an interesting concept, hits 2 market segments but just at an increased cost.

 

AM5 is supposedly geared to DDr5 memory overclocking as well. This will be interesting to see unfold actually. Will the IMC on AMD be better than Intels? 

 

We wait and see. 

 

If 5000 series drop well after AM5, I have 2 kids that could use upgrades from a 1400 and 2700x. So I would only buy into AMD for myself having the oldest setup 8700K.

If single threaded performance is everything, then Ryzen 700p seems underwhelming.

 

Claims 15% improvement over 5000 series....meanwhile 12tu gen is 30% father than 5000 series.

 

If this is true, it'll still come up short.

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11 minutes ago, Shimmy Gummi said:

If single threaded performance is everything, then Ryzen 700p seems underwhelming.

 

Claims 15% improvement over 5000 series....meanwhile 12tu gen is 30% father than 5000 series.

 

If this is true, it'll still come up short.

Eh well, I think Auntie Su is the type of person that likes retaliating than attacking.
So it's quite possible they are holding back the big gun until later.

But yeah, its also possible 7000 is the guinea pig one.

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4 minutes ago, Poinkachu said:

Eh well, I think Auntie Su is the type of person that likes retaliating than attacking.
So it's quite possible they are holding back the big gun until later.

But yeah, its also possible 7000 is the guinea pig one.

If it's not faster than 12th gen.

 

 

Man it's gonna be a hard sell to upgrade for me.

 

I get the feeling it's gonna be another few years.

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4 minutes ago, Shimmy Gummi said:

If it's not faster than 12th gen.

 

 

Man it's gonna be a hard sell to upgrade for me.

 

I get the feeling it's gonna be another few years.

I guess, a good twist would be what they said and released in computex is actually about their lowest tier of CPUs.
XD

So far Su's most often just wait for rival's announcement first, then beat their announcement.

But yeah..., I think I'm gonna stick to my old adage of not jumping in too fast when its about new tech.
And I sure hope Intel not gonna use obscure apps for their benchmark again.

side note : Poor PCIe 4 gonna cry for only living 2 short years in desktop PC environment, I guess ?

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8 minutes ago, Poinkachu said:

I guess, a good twist would be what they said and released in computex is actually about their lowest tier of CPUs.
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So far Su's most often just wait for rival's announcement first, then beat their announcement.

But yeah..., I think I'm gonna stick to my old adage of not jumping in too fast when its about new tech.
And I sure hope Intel not gonna use obscure apps for their benchmark again.

side note : Poor PCIe 4 gonna cry for only living 2 short years in desktop PC environment, I guess ?

It will take a while for PCIE5 be meaningful anyway.  I wouldn't worry about it if you have pcie4

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