Build plan advice/help

[DEADPOOLSMOM]

53 minutes ago, Toasty321 said:

Thought so. Noctua is simply amazing. 

 

And i actually have a pheriphrals question...   What are those things that play sound through the computer? Kinda like a soundboard.. I dont think its an audio mixer, because arent those for music production? Linus mentions it in this video : https://youtu.be/OkCX8d8WSOg  around time stamp 18:20. Also, the microphone shown, the AT2020, is that needed to have something like the GoLXR (mini)?

It's called a DAC. Digital to Audio Converter. And I wouldn't bother with XLR. Too many cables. Just get a decent USB Mic. The Shure MV7 is really good 

[Morris_lee_9116]

8 hours ago, Toasty321 said:

I have a few questions.

 

Why the 12700F not the 12700K? Is there a peformance difference?

 

Is there a wifi version of this MOBO? Wifi adds bluetooth, right? Bluetooth is something im 100% looking for.

 

Ok, so ive been toying with the idea of a liquid cooler, but... Are there any better ones? Reviews say chonky cards for decent performance, and not very appealing. Maybe the NZXT Kraken x63 https://pcpartpicker.com/mr/amazon/JfVG3C 

 

Is gigabyte a good brand? Ive heard some random things about it, but im not sure. 

 

NZXT case looks amazing, great airflow, and a contender for the 4000d airflow for sure.

12700F is better for the value because you're not going to overclock with that B660(or your original H670) anyway
You want wifi? give me few mins and I'll make another list
BRO
Arctic's liquid freezer is literally the best performing AIO out there
it can even kick some 360mm's ass
I'm picking that Gigabyte card to match the theme of the white(mostly) build
yeah H510 Flow is great

 

[Morris_lee_9116]

@Toasty321I have made a new list, after looking at the prices there seems to be RTX 3080 less than $1000, and you should totally go for it instead of RTX 3080 Ti for about $500 more than 3080
and i changed your MB to Asus ROG Strix B660A Wifi
and the Graphics card is the EVGA FTW3 card(they're about as best as you can get)



 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700F 2.1 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($312.96 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B660-A GAMING WIFI D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($229.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($131.43 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($102.64 @ GameStop) 
Storage: Western Digital WD Blue 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($58.50 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 10GB LHR 10 GB FTW3 ULTRA GAMING LHR Video Card  ($937.99 @ EVGA) 
Case: NZXT H510 Flow ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($104.99 @ Newegg) 
Case Fan: Fractal Design Aspect 14 RGB 41 CFM 140 mm Fan  ($20.99 @ Newegg) 
Case Fan: Fractal Design Aspect 14 RGB 41 CFM 140 mm Fan  ($20.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor  ($332.64 @ GameStop) 
Keyboard: SteelSeries Apex Pro RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($149.47 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2602.57
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-04-28 21:11 EDT-0400

 

On 4/29/2022 at 4:14 AM, Morris_lee_9116 said:

@Toasty321I have made a new list, after looking at the prices there seems to be RTX 3080 less than $1000, and you should totally go for it instead of RTX 3080 Ti for about $500 more than 3080
and i changed your MB to Asus ROG Strix B660A Wifi
and the Graphics card is the EVGA FTW3 card(they're about as best as you can get)



 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700F 2.1 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($312.96 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B660-A GAMING WIFI D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($229.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($131.43 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($102.64 @ GameStop) 
Storage: Western Digital WD Blue 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($58.50 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 10GB LHR 10 GB FTW3 ULTRA GAMING LHR Video Card  ($937.99 @ EVGA) 
Case: NZXT H510 Flow ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($104.99 @ Newegg) 
Case Fan: Fractal Design Aspect 14 RGB 41 CFM 140 mm Fan  ($20.99 @ Newegg) 
Case Fan: Fractal Design Aspect 14 RGB 41 CFM 140 mm Fan  ($20.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor  ($332.64 @ GameStop) 
Keyboard: SteelSeries Apex Pro RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($149.47 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2602.57
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-04-28 21:11 EDT-0400

there are some MSI cards that's a bit more expensive but they're all more expensive
so literally no reason to go for them because FTW3 is better and cheaper

 

 

if you're interested in air cooling then here's a list with two different air cooler option
a Noctua Chromax D15S
and a Scythe Mugen 5 ARGB(if you want ARGB this air cooler is about as rainbow puke as you can get, ofc you can just set it to static)
 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700F 2.1 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($312.96 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Scythe Mugen 5 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler  ($79.98 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S chromax.black 82.51 CFM CPU Cooler  ($99.95 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B660-A GAMING WIFI D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($229.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($131.43 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($102.64 @ GameStop) 
Storage: Western Digital WD Blue 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($58.50 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 10GB LHR 10 GB FTW3 ULTRA GAMING LHR Video Card  ($937.99 @ EVGA) 
Case: NZXT H510 Flow ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($104.99 @ Newegg) 
Case Fan: Fractal Design Aspect 14 RGB 41 CFM 140 mm Fan  ($20.99 @ Newegg) 
Case Fan: Fractal Design Aspect 14 RGB 41 CFM 140 mm Fan  ($20.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor  ($332.64 @ GameStop) 
Keyboard: SteelSeries Apex Pro RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($149.47 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2672.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-04-28 21:21 EDT-0400

[Toasty321]

50 minutes ago, Morris_lee_9116 said:

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700F 2.1 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($312.96 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B660-A GAMING WIFI D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($229.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($131.43 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($102.64 @ GameStop) 
Storage: Western Digital WD Blue 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($58.50 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 10GB LHR 10 GB FTW3 ULTRA GAMING LHR Video Card  ($937.99 @ EVGA) 
Case: NZXT H510 Flow ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($104.99 @ Newegg) 
Case Fan: Fractal Design Aspect 14 RGB 41 CFM 140 mm Fan  ($20.99 @ Newegg) 
Case Fan: Fractal Design Aspect 14 RGB 41 CFM 140 mm Fan  ($20.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor  ($332.64 @ GameStop)

 

9 hours ago, CHICKSLAYA said:

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($381.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12A chromax.black 60.09 CFM CPU Cooler  ($119.95 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO Z690-A WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($219.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($83.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital WD Blue 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($58.50 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 10GB LHR 10 GB FTW3 ULTRA GAMING LHR Video Card  ($937.99 @ EVGA) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  ($104.99 @ Best Buy) 
Power Supply: Corsair HX Platinum 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($119.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor  ($332.64 @ GameStop) 

Keyboard: NovelKeys NK65 Entry Edition ($94.99 @ NovelKeys) 
70x T1 Tactile Switches ($38.50 @PrimeKB)
Drop Marvel MT3 Keycaps: ($106.60 @Amazon)

 

ok. Both of yoy have practically exact same build ideas, apart from the motherboard, cooling method, and case. Im going to go with the MSI PRO Z690-A WIFI, due to an internal wifi design, and i belive overclocking cabablitities. (So the 12700K)  That leaves the cooling and case. I have NO idea how liquid coolers peform, and what accommodations have to be made for one. I know the Noctua is amazing, but is the ARCTIC comparable in peformance? Also, are NZXT cases anything like a corsair case? The 4000D airflow has built in cable management, with a vented front for optimized airflow (hence the name) and comes with 2 fans. I dont know how NZXT operates, or how thier cases are marketed. What would you all reccomend? Both of these builds are amazing, but i dont know much about liquid coolers or other case brands. (Also case fans, which should i go with if i want all front occupied, and back top and back ceiling.)

[Toasty321]

19 hours ago, VIVO-US said:

The VG27AQ weighs 7.72lbs, so you can actually use any monitor mount you want with that one!  For full motion mounts we offer, STAND-V001O is a good inexpensive option.  If you want a little extra height, STAND-V001K will do the job.

After additinal research, it appears that the V100O has a minumium desk thickness of 1 3/4 inches, while my desk top is only ~1 inch. Is there a similar model with maybe a tighter clamp?

[DEADPOOLSMOM]

11 hours ago, Toasty321 said:

 

 

ok. Both of yoy have practically exact same build ideas, apart from the motherboard, cooling method, and case. Im going to go with the MSI PRO Z690-A WIFI, due to an internal wifi design, and i belive overclocking cabablitities. (So the 12700K)  That leaves the cooling and case. I have NO idea how liquid coolers peform, and what accommodations have to be made for one. I know the Noctua is amazing, but is the ARCTIC comparable in peformance? Also, are NZXT cases anything like a corsair case? The 4000D airflow has built in cable management, with a vented front for optimized airflow (hence the name) and comes with 2 fans. I dont know how NZXT operates, or how thier cases are marketed. What would you all reccomend? Both of these builds are amazing, but i dont know much about liquid coolers or other case brands. (Also case fans, which should i go with if i want all front occupied, and back top and back ceiling.)

His build is good too. I personally have the fractal torrent compact case wise. Its a great case with annoying cable management. The 4000d is a terrific case. I do not like NZXT cases personally. Scythe coolers are really great. I wouldn't bother with liquid cooling. I would get a noctua nh-d15/d15s /u12a or scythe fuma 2/mugen 5

[VIVO-US]

41 minutes ago, Toasty321 said:

After additinal research, it appears that the V100O has a minumium desk thickness of 1 3/4 inches, while my desk top is only ~1 inch. Is there a similar model with maybe a tighter clamp?

The clamp can actually fit down to 3/8".  You can install the clamp at two different heights depending on the desk thickness, with the upper position being for thinner desks (3/8" to 2-1/8") and the lower position for thicker desks (2" to 3-3/8").  There's no need to worry about it not fitting a 1" thick desk.  

[Toasty321]

3 minutes ago, VIVO-US said:

The clamp can actually fit down to 3/8".  You can install the clamp at two different heights depending on the desk thickness, with the upper position being for thinner desks (3/8" to 2-1/8") and the lower position for thicker desks (2" to 3-3/8").  There's no need to worry about it not fitting a 1" thick desk.  

Oh, I must have misread. My apologies! That was the only possible issue, but since it now isnt one, Ill be getting this for sure! Thank you so much!

[Toasty321]

41 minutes ago, CHICKSLAYA said:

His build is good too. I personally have the fractal torrent compact case wise. Its a great case with annoying cable management. The 4000d is a terrific case. I do not like NZXT cases personally. Scythe coolers are really great. I wouldn't bother with liquid cooling. I would get a noctua nh-d15/d15s /u12a or scythe fuma 2/mugen 5

Yeah, I didnt want to attempt a liquid confguration, so ill stay with the air cooling. 

 

What do you think of this? 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNW2IFfOIxg 

 

If i switch to an i5, then go with the FTW3 3080ti from evga, it adds 200$ to the cost for ~10-20 more fps in AAA titles. Would it be worth it?

[DEADPOOLSMOM]

36 minutes ago, Toasty321 said:

Yeah, I didnt want to attempt a liquid confguration, so ill stay with the air cooling. 

 

What do you think of this? 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNW2IFfOIxg 

 

If i switch to an i5, then go with the FTW3 3080ti from evga, it adds 200$ to the cost for ~10-20 more fps in AAA titles. Would it be worth it?

Nah

[Toasty321]

Budget (including currency): $3500 USD (Room for margin)

Country: United States of America

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: After Effects, Blender, Photoshop, CSGO, Doom Eternal, Elden Ring, Microsoft Flight Simulator, Worldbox. 

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

So the PC partpicker has those build shells under the "Build Guide" tab, and the "Magnificent Intel Gaming / Streaming Build" actually seems like an alright build???

 

Magnificent Intel Gaming / Streaming Build:

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($369.97 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($89.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: *ASRock Z690 PG Riptide ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($179.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: *Silicon Power GAMING 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($104.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: *Western Digital WD Green SN350 960 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($74.98 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: *Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB GAMING OC Video Card  ($1199.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair 5000D AIRFLOW ATX Mid Tower Case  ($149.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: *Super Flower Leadex III Gold 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($114.99 @ Newegg Sellers) 
Total: $2284.78 

 

After some "touch ups"

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($369.97 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($89.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: *ASRock Z690 PG Riptide ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($179.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($115.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial P2 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($89.99 @ Adorama) 
Storage: Western Digital WD Blue 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($67.98 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: *Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB GAMING OC Video Card  ($1199.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair 5000D AIRFLOW ATX Mid Tower Case  ($149.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: *Super Flower Leadex III Gold 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($114.99 @ Newegg Sellers) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fans 5-Pack  ($29.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQL1A 27.0" 2560x1440 170 Hz Monitor  ($329.00 @ GameStop) 
Custom: Ducky One 3 Mini Daybreak Keyboard (Cherry MX Silent Red)  ($139.00 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2876.78
 

Would this be an actually valid build? It holds a 3080ti and a i7-12th gen for under $3k? 

 

(Current/Previous build plan) 

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($369.97 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Scythe Mugen 5 Black Edition 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler  ($60.00) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO Z690-A WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($219.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($131.44 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($119.38 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital WD Blue 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($67.98 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 10GB LHR 10 GB FTW3 ULTRA GAMING LHR Video Card  ($869.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  ($104.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair HX Platinum 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($174.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor  ($329.99 @ Amazon) 
Keyboard: SteelSeries Apex Pro RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($149.47 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2598.19
 

[RONOTHAN##]

first off, it would be best if you included the actual PCPartPicker links. It just makes it easier to edit the lists.

 

Anyway, some comments on the current plan:

18 minutes ago, Toasty321 said:

(Current/Previous build plan) 

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($369.97 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Scythe Mugen 5 Black Edition 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler  ($60.00) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO Z690-A WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($219.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($131.44 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($119.38 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital WD Blue 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($67.98 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 10GB LHR 10 GB FTW3 ULTRA GAMING LHR Video Card  ($869.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  ($104.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair HX Platinum 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($174.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor  ($329.99 @ Amazon) 
Keyboard: SteelSeries Apex Pro RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($149.47 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2598.19

If you were to buy it and build it today, it would work great. There are a couple things I'd personally change though.

1. Get a better cooler, the 12700K runs hot, especially if you want to overclock it. If you want to overclock it, get a 360mm AIO or greater. If you aren't gonna overclock it, then don't bother getting the -K SKU and just go for the 12700 and a decent B660 board, performance will be within 1-2% and it will be $50-100 cheaper. I'd still try to go for a dual tower cooler though if you go 12700 non-K, the Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 is $41 at Amazon and should do a pretty decent job. 
2. The Sabrent Rocket is $20 cheaper and performs very similarly. If you just want the name Samsung, sure go for the 970 Evo, but I'd probably go Rocket instead.
3. I'd go for a cheaper 850W PSU. 80+ Platinum really isn't worth the extra $50 over a quality 80+ Gold unit, for just gaming, assuming you game for 8 hours a day, 7 days a week, and pay 20c per kWh (the high side of average in the US), you'd consume ~12W more at about an average gaming load (350W GPU, 100W CPU, 50W everything else) and be paying ~58c more per month. At that rate it would take you over 7 years to make your money back going for a 80+ Platinum unit over a 80+ gold unit. Odds are by the time you'd have broken even you'd have replaced the entire system a few years back. The RM850 is a very solid unit that should do pretty well with a 3080 and save you a bit of cost, even in the long run. 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yd3HGL

 

This should shave off a lot of cost (~$150) for effectively the same performance. 

[maartendc]

5 hours ago, Toasty321 said:

 

After some "touch ups"

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($369.97 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($89.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: *ASRock Z690 PG Riptide ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($179.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($115.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial P2 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($89.99 @ Adorama) 
Storage: Western Digital WD Blue 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($67.98 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: *Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB GAMING OC Video Card  ($1199.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair 5000D AIRFLOW ATX Mid Tower Case  ($149.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: *Super Flower Leadex III Gold 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($114.99 @ Newegg Sellers) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fans 5-Pack  ($29.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQL1A 27.0" 2560x1440 170 Hz Monitor  ($329.00 @ GameStop) 
Custom: Ducky One 3 Mini Daybreak Keyboard (Cherry MX Silent Red)  ($139.00 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2876.78
 

Would this be an actually valid build? It holds a 3080ti and a i7-12th gen for under $3k?

 

 

Good build overall, very reasonable choices for a high end gaming build without spending too much.

 

- Could go with the Noctua NH-D15 for a slightly better CPU cooler.

- Could argue that a RTX 3080 currently selling for 869 USD is a better bang for the buck than a 3080Ti. It is only about 10% slower, but 38% cheaper. This would be my choice personally.

- Could go with 3600 Mhz memory for a build of this price range.

 

Good luck!

[Toasty321]

9 hours ago, RONOTHAN## said:

first off, it would be best if you included the actual PCPartPicker links. It just makes it easier to edit the lists.

 

Anyway, some comments on the current plan:

If you were to buy it and build it today, it would work great. There are a couple things I'd personally change though.

1. Get a better cooler, the 12700K runs hot, especially if you want to overclock it. If you want to overclock it, get a 360mm AIO or greater. If you aren't gonna overclock it, then don't bother getting the -K SKU and just go for the 12700 and a decent B660 board, performance will be within 1-2% and it will be $50-100 cheaper. I'd still try to go for a dual tower cooler though if you go 12700 non-K, the Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 is $41 at Amazon and should do a pretty decent job. 
2. The Sabrent Rocket is $20 cheaper and performs very similarly. If you just want the name Samsung, sure go for the 970 Evo, but I'd probably go Rocket instead.
3. I'd go for a cheaper 850W PSU. 80+ Platinum really isn't worth the extra $50 over a quality 80+ Gold unit, for just gaming, assuming you game for 8 hours a day, 7 days a week, and pay 20c per kWh (the high side of average in the US), you'd consume ~12W more at about an average gaming load (350W GPU, 100W CPU, 50W everything else) and be paying ~58c more per month. At that rate it would take you over 7 years to make your money back going for a 80+ Platinum unit over a 80+ gold unit. Odds are by the time you'd have broken even you'd have replaced the entire system a few years back. The RM850 is a very solid unit that should do pretty well with a 3080 and save you a bit of cost, even in the long run. 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yd3HGL

 

This should shave off a lot of cost (~$150) for effectively the same performance. 

Yeah, that was my previous plan, but I think ill be going with the Touched up list. For the AIO, would the Corsair H10i be a good choice? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Fnyqqs/corsair-icue-h150i-rgb-pro-xt-75-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-cw-9060045-ww

 

 

Updated:

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($369.97 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H150i RGB PRO XT 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($144.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS WIFI D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($289.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($134.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial P2 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($89.99 @ Adorama) 
Storage: Western Digital WD Blue 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($67.98 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: *Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB GAMING OC Video Card  ($1199.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair 5000D AIRFLOW ATX Mid Tower Case  ($149.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: *Super Flower Leadex III Gold 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($114.99 @ Newegg Sellers) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fans 5-Pack  ($29.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQL1A 27.0" 2560x1440 170 Hz Monitor  ($366.99 @ Amazon) 
Custom: Ducky One 3 Mini Daybreak Keyboard (Cherry MX Silent Red)  ($139.00 @ Amazon) 
Total: $3098.86 

[RONOTHAN##]

3 hours ago, Toasty321 said:

Yeah, that was my previous plan, but I think ill be going with the Touched up list. For the AIO, would the Corsair H10i be a good choice? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Fnyqqs/corsair-icue-h150i-rgb-pro-xt-75-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-cw-9060045-ww

 

 

Updated:

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($369.97 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H150i RGB PRO XT 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($144.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS WIFI D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($289.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($134.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial P2 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($89.99 @ Adorama) 
Storage: Western Digital WD Blue 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($67.98 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: *Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB GAMING OC Video Card  ($1199.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair 5000D AIRFLOW ATX Mid Tower Case  ($149.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: *Super Flower Leadex III Gold 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($114.99 @ Newegg Sellers) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fans 5-Pack  ($29.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQL1A 27.0" 2560x1440 170 Hz Monitor  ($366.99 @ Amazon) 
Custom: Ducky One 3 Mini Daybreak Keyboard (Cherry MX Silent Red)  ($139.00 @ Amazon) 
Total: $3098.86 

Your previous build was within 5% of the performance but cost $600 less. This system isn't necessarily bad, but it's not super price competitive. First, are you actually gonna overclock that CPU? Alder Lake overclocking gets you maybe 100MHz but is very difficult to do. If you just wanna do it for fun, fine, but you really better off saving your money and going B660 and 12700 instead, then just getting a dual tower air cooler for pretty good performance but much better reliability. The 5000D is just a bigger 4000D, but unless you're going custom water cooling or for a very large AIO, it's not easier to build in and looks about the same. It can fit an extra fan, that's about it. Save the $50. If you want to throw a 3080 Ti in this system, fine. It doesn't make a ton of sense to spend $400 more on a card that's 10% faster, but it's an easier pill to swallow than $200 on the CPU/Mobo/Cooler that will be 1-2% faster at best. 

 

After doing all that, you could upgrade the monitor and other peripherals while keeping the same budget as that updated list. That will give a more noticeable improvement than anything you would do otherwise. 

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GBH7Rv

[Somerandomtechyboi]

21 hours ago, Toasty321 said:

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($369.97 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($89.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: *ASRock Z690 PG Riptide ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($179.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($115.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial P2 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($89.99 @ Adorama) 
Storage: Western Digital WD Blue 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($67.98 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: *Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB GAMING OC Video Card  ($1199.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair 5000D AIRFLOW ATX Mid Tower Case  ($149.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: *Super Flower Leadex III Gold 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($114.99 @ Newegg Sellers) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fans 5-Pack  ($29.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQL1A 27.0" 2560x1440 170 Hz Monitor  ($329.00 @ GameStop) 
Custom: Ducky One 3 Mini Daybreak Keyboard (Cherry MX Silent Red)  ($139.00 @ Amazon) 

Pretty much the best version of the list, the current plan is stupid due to overpriced psu and ssd

 

Get cheaper rams if you wanna leave em stock or straight to ballistix for 4000 cl16 ~1.5v or 4600+ cl18 ~1.6v, no point going inbetween

 

P2 is trash so just get a decent high speed gen3 like silicon power a80, gammix s7, wd sn750, etc. 970 evo is overpriced trash, its such a joke of an ssd pricing wise to the point that spending 8$ more and you can get a proper 980 pro class ssd like gammix s70 blade which will completely annihilate this sad excuse of an overpriced ssd (literally 2x faster), heck even the 980 pro itself is a better value so either a cheap gen3 or straight to a 980 pro class ssd, anything inbetween dont bother

 

You can get 7200rpm enterprise 6tb drives for ~90$

 

5000D is pointless so downsize to 4000d or get something with complete airflow already like lancool 215, df700 flux, 270r airflow, etc.

 

Otherwise looks ok

[Toasty321]

28 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Get cheaper rams if you wanna leave em stock or straight to ballistix for 4000 cl16 ~1.5v or 4600+ cl18 ~1.6v, no point going inbetween

Are the G.Skill Ripjaws any good? I looked into Gskilll trident Z's, and it lookes like they're optimized for AMD CPU's. The Ripjaws are also a bit cheaper than tridents or ballistix.

 

50 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

5000D is pointless so downsize to 4000d

That looks good, but when it says in the specs "Top: 280mm with CORSAIR LPX DRAM / 240mm with all CORSAIR DRAM" what does that mean? I plan on using a AIO to cool the CPU, so what does it mean by LPX or no LPX? 

[Somerandomtechyboi]

50 minutes ago, Toasty321 said:

Are the G.Skill Ripjaws any good? I looked into Gskilll trident Z's, and it lookes like they're optimized for AMD CPU's. The Ripjaws are also a bit cheaper than tridents or ballistix.

No diff compared to other rams so either cheapest rams available for stock or ballistix for high overclock, you can also get rgb pro rs for the same price as ballistix iirc and its actually not bad value considering the chance of trash b die and ocing it, trash b die will still do well when you crank the volts (1.6-1.7v, but no safety guarantees above 1.6v and you need a fan over 1.5v), though it wont clock as high as ballistix which is a bummer for intel but prefferable for amd since tighter timings at <4000mhz means you have fast rams that can sync with fclk

 

53 minutes ago, Toasty321 said:

That looks good, but when it says in the specs "Top: 280mm with CORSAIR LPX DRAM / 240mm with all CORSAIR DRAM" what does that mean? I plan on using a AIO to cool the CPU, so what does it mean by LPX or no LPX? 

Aio clearence may be an issue with higher profile dimms, but srsly no point sticking with the 5000d when there are cheaper cases like 275r airflow, df700 flux, lancool 215, etc. That have complete airflow already, you can just front mount your aio yk

 

An aircooler will work here but if you really want the aesthetics of an aio then just get a cheapo one like liqmax, if you want performance then liquid freezer aios (pointless unless you go 280mm+), if you want lcd then buy a cheapo lcd and stick it on your case, dont bother with lcd aios as theyre overpriced jokes with displays too tiny to actually be useful

[Toasty321]

28 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

No diff compared to other rams so either cheapest rams available for stock or ballistix for high overclock, you can also get rgb pro rs for the same price as ballistix iirc and its actually not bad value considering the chance of trash b die and ocing it, trash b die will still do well when you crank the volts (1.6-1.7v, but no safety guarantees above 1.6v and you need a fan over 1.5v), though it wont clock as high as ballistix which is a bummer for intel but prefferable for amd since tighter timings at <4000mhz means you have fast rams that can sync with fclk

 

Aio clearence may be an issue with higher profile dimms, but srsly no point sticking with the 5000d when there are cheaper cases like 275r airflow, df700 flux, lancool 215, etc. That have complete airflow already, you can just front mount your aio yk

 

An aircooler will work here but if you really want the aesthetics of an aio then just get a cheapo one like liqmax, if you want performance then liquid freezer aios (pointless unless you go 280mm+), if you want lcd then buy a cheapo lcd and stick it on your case, dont bother with lcd aios as theyre overpriced jokes with displays too tiny to actually be useful

yeah i plan on just going to 4000d. 

 

And is the Corsair H100i under that "overpriced jokes with displays to tiny to be useful" veil? My question is if it actually is worse peformace. I am totally fine with spending a upcharge. Also, with the DIMMs, it should be fine right? a 280 should fit...

 

Updated list:

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700KF 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($350.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H100i ELITE LCD 58.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($239.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG Z690 TOMAHAWK WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($279.00 @ B&H) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-4000 CL18 Memory  ($139.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: ADATA XPG GAMMIX S70 Blade 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($127.49 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($67.98 @ Amazon) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  ($104.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($119.99 @ Corsair) 
Monitor: Gigabyte M27Q 27.0" 2560x1440 170 Hz Monitor  ($319.99 @ Amazon) 
Custom: VIVO Single Monitor Counterbalance Gas Spring Desk Mount Stand | Universal Fits Screens 13" to 27" (STAND-V001O)  ($37.99 @ Amazon) 
Custom: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING, 10G-P5-3897-KL, 10GB GDDR6X, iCX3 Technology, ARGB LED, Metal Backplate, LHR  ($887.99 @ EVGA) 
Custom: Ducky One 3 Mini Daybreak Keyboard (Cherry MX Silent Red)  ($139.00 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2815.39
 

[Somerandomtechyboi]

1 hour ago, Toasty321 said:

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-4000 CL18 Memory  ($139.99 @ Amazon) 

Ballistx does 4000 cl16 with ease, although 4000 cl18 should be b die and considering the price that is a ludicrously good deal, now run it as close to 1.5v or 1.6v for max performance, expect 4000 cl14 atleast but you may go higher on cl15/cl16 but thats if your board can handle dual rank dimms at high speed, you can crank volt upto 1.75v though no safety guarantees above 1.6v, 2.05v should be deathzone so stay far away from that. Now its pretty much a pick your poison between decent speed with good timings (<4200 cl14 1.5-1.75v) and ludicrous speed but rip timings (4600-5000 cl18 1.6v), keep in mind fan is mandatory above 1.5v due to heat

 

1 hour ago, Toasty321 said:

CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H100i ELITE LCD 58.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($239.99 @ Newegg) 

Burn it in hell and stick an actually useful size wise lcd to your case and not a puny borderline useless lcd on an aio block, also get one thats below 80$ or get liquid freezer 240

1 hour ago, Toasty321 said:

My question is if it actually is worse peformace.

Same as regular h100i, just a 100$ upcharge and a useless tiny lcd

 

1 hour ago, Toasty321 said:

Motherboard: MSI MAG Z690 TOMAHAWK WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($279.00 @ B&H) 

Z690 aero g ddr4 offers more i/o (3 usbc, 8 usb3, 6 usb2) but if you need wifi better off with the z690 a pro/ud

 

1 hour ago, Toasty321 said:

Power Supply: Corsair RM (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($119.99 @ Corsair) 

Get one under 110$

 

1 hour ago, Toasty321 said:

Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($67.98 @ Amazon) 

Get a 6tb 7200rpm enterprise drive instead as it offers higher speed and better value

 

 

[Toasty321]

9 hours ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Ballistx does 4000 cl16 with ease, although 4000 cl18 should be b die and considering the price that is a ludicrously good deal, now run it as close to 1.5v or 1.6v for max performance, expect 4000 cl14 atleast but you may go higher on cl15/cl16 but thats if your board can handle dual rank dimms at high speed, you can crank volt upto 1.75v though no safety guarantees above 1.6v, 2.05v should be deathzone so stay far away from that. Now its pretty much a pick your poison between decent speed with good timings (<4200 cl14 1.5-1.75v) and ludicrous speed but rip timings (4600-5000 cl18 1.6v), keep in mind fan is mandatory above 1.5v due to heat

I dont plan on overclocking RAM, considering it really dosent affect game peformance. What sticks would be the best for base peformance with an i7? 

 

9 hours ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Get a 6tb 7200rpm enterprise drive instead as it offers higher speed and better value

 

makes sense, done.

 

9 hours ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Same as regular h100i, just a 100$ upcharge and a useless tiny lcd

 

Is the h100i bad in any way? If i get a arctic, where would i find a good LCD screen for the case?

[Toasty321]

Budget (including currency): $3,500 USD (Room for margin)

Country: United States of America

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Microsoft Flight Sim, Elden Ring, CSGO, Doom Eternal, Death Stranding (All on 1440p 144+hz) Ae programs like Premiere Pro, After Effects, Photoshop etc.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

Ive been working on reshaping my build plan for approx a month now, and I think ive got it. Advice on parts would be appreciated, and let me know what you think!

 

Build

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700KF 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($350.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H115i ELITE CAPELLIX 97 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($158.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG Z690 TOMAHAWK WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($279.99 @ Best Buy) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($152.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: ADATA XPG GAMMIX S70 Blade 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($127.49 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate 6 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($85.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  ($104.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($119.99 @ Corsair) 
Case Fan: Corsair AF120 (2018) 52 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($14.99 @ Corsair) 
Case Fan: Corsair AF120 (2018) 52 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($14.99 @ Corsair) 
Case Fan: Corsair AF120 (2018) 52 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($14.99 @ Corsair) 
Case Fan: Corsair AF120 (2018) 52 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($14.99 @ Corsair) 
Monitor: Gigabyte M27Q 27.0" 2560x1440 170 Hz Monitor  ($319.99 @ Amazon) 
Custom: VIVO Single Monitor Counterbalance Gas Spring Desk Mount Stand | Universal Fits Screens 13" to 27" (STAND-V001O)  ($37.99 @ Amazon) 
Custom: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING, 10G-P5-3897-KL, 10GB GDDR6X, iCX3 Technology, ARGB LED, Metal Backplate, LHR  ($887.99 @ EVGA) 
Custom: Ducky One 3 Mini Daybreak Keyboard (Cherry MX Silent Red)  ($139.00 @ Amazon) 
Custom: LGA1700 Retrofit Kit ($5.99)
Custom: Stream Deck Mk.2  ($149.99)
Total: $2982.33

 

PCPartPicker Part List:  https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DRNBLs
 

 

[Hairless Monkey]

That looks pretty good.

 

That 6TB drive is flippin cheap! And I think it might be a bit loud. So be prepared for that.

 

I don't love the monitor choice. I think you might want to spend the rest of your $3500 budget to get something a little nicer.

 

Something like this (but not necessarily):

An ultrawide: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CnzFf7/lg-34gp83a-b-340-3440x1440-144-hz-monitor-34gp83a-b

Or this big boi: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hCrRsY/gigabyte-aorus-fv43u-430-3840x2160-144-hz-monitor-aorus-fv43u

 

Get something worthy of that $900 GPU.

[LogicalDrm]

@Toasty321

All your build threads for this $3.5k build have been merged here. Please do not create new threads for new iterations of this build. It's waste of peoples time and effort to ask same questions already asked previously.

 

Also all triple and quadruple posts merged. This is purely to keep things neat. Please use Edit and Multiquote functions (latter collects all posts you want to reply to into one, arrows with plus sign). This one applies to everyone.

[Toasty321]

1 hour ago, LogicalDrm said:

@Toasty321

All your build threads for this $3.5k build have been merged here. Please do not create new threads for new iterations of this build. It's waste of peoples time and effort to ask same questions already asked previously.

 

Also all triple and quadruple posts merged. This is purely to keep things neat. Please use Edit and Multiquote functions (latter collects all posts you want to reply to into one, arrows with plus sign). This one applies to everyone.

Oh, Sorry! Ill make sure to stick to one thread. My bad...