Build plan advice/help

[Toasty321]

Budget (including currency): $3,500 USD (Room for margin)

Country: United States of America

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Blender, After Effects, Photoshop, Rust, Csgo, Doom Eternal, and other rtx / graphically stunning games that I can't run on current setup.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

CPU

i5-12600k 3.7 Ghz 10-core (~$250)

 

CPU Cooler

Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black 55 CFM CPU Cooler (~$100)

 

Motherboard

Asus TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS WIFI D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (~$290)

 

RAM

G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (~$160)

 

Storage 

Seagate Barracuda Compute 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive (~$70)

Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (~$270)

 

GPU

MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB VENTUS 3X OC Video Card (~$570)

 

PSU

EVGA G2 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (~$270)

 

Case / Case fans

Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case (comes with 2 fans) (~$105)

Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM chromax.black.swap 60.09 CFM 120 mm Fan (x3) (~$50 x3)

 

Peripherals

LG 24GN650-B 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor (x2) (~$200 x3)

SteelSeries Apex Pro RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard (~$150)

? Dual Monitor Arms VIVO ? (~$100)

Windows 11? 10? (~$110)

 

Total: ~$3000 (tax not included)

 

Background

The current system I have is very crummy. It runs off a i5-3470, gtx 1050ti, with slow ram and no SSD. It struggles to run games like CSGo and Valorant, even on the lowest of low settings. Boot up takes 10-15 minutes on a good day, with start up operations taking a chunk out of my time, even after boot-up. Upgrading to something like listed above, has been my dream for the longest time, is now becoming a reality. 

 

My plans for this build

I plan on rendering in blender, working with After Effects, photoshop, and other Ae programs. I also wish to keep up with my copmetitive games, like CSGO, but also indulge in games like rust, doom eternal, Elden Ring, etc. After ~months of research, i found that the new 12th gen i5 is the best bang for buck, and it will support my other specs, like a 3060ti, 32gb of ram, etc. It also boasts better professional efficiency than previous generations. I went with 32gb for the best performance in Ae programs, and blender. 

 

Monitor help

I have been going back and forth between 2 monitors, 1080p, 144hz, due to the fact that i will be doing alot of editing work, rendering, etc. Basically things that are better with two monitors. The other idea was one, larger 1440p monitor. The 2 1080p's would be 24" while the 1440p is 27". I'm pretty sure ill stick with the 2 1080p's, because the LG 24gn650-b's seem like the best choice. The other issue, is I'm not sure which monitor arms to use. I looked and looked, and I landed on the ViVO premium dual gaming monitor arms. They look to have good construction, good reviews, and they fit the build. Some advice would be appreciated.  

 

Keyboard

Is the steelseries apex PRO any good? I really like the idea of customizable keycap strength, and an OLED screen that can display PC info. For my planned usage of the PC, does this keyboard fit?

 

OS

Is windows 11 good for gaming/productivity? Is sticking with windows 10 the way to go, or are there significant benefits to 11?

 

Mail in rebates?

Are there any sort of rebate programs? I'm not sure... is there even such a thing in the world of PC's?

 

Purchase Location 

There is a microcenter within 30 miles of my current location, so that is a plausible option. For items they may not have, or for easier obtaniablity, amazon or newegg work just fine. 

 

Is it any good?

Would there be anything in this build that I should change? This would be my first build, but luckily i am getting help from someone who knows how to build, and there are plenty of LTT video guides  :).  

 

 

[Pixelfie]

Pretty good, apart from the extremely overpriced PSU. This one is much cheaper and better. Maybe you should also upgrade to a 3070 Ti, which shouldn't cost much more since we saved money on the PSU. This one seems good.

 

I don't know much about monitors, so can't help you on that. The keyboard is pretty decent afaik. 

 

Both Windows 10 and 11 should work well. There's not really one much better than the other imo, but I think for now 10 might be better until the next major update for 11 releases, because 11 is missing out on some basic stuff (like drag and drop). Also you don't need to spend that much on Windows, you can get cheap keys online for like $10.

[SupaKomputa]

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600K 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor  ($251.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($89.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME Z690-P WIFI D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($223.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($116.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($149.99 @ Adorama) 
Storage: Toshiba 6 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($88.50 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB XC3 ULTRA GAMING iCX3 Video Card  ($1297.99 @ EVGA) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  ($104.99 @ Best Buy) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($104.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: LG 34GL750-B 34.0" 2560x1080 144 Hz Monitor  ($396.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2826.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-04-27 13:31 EDT-0400

 

 

$3000 you should get a 3080ti. Get an ultrawide instead of 2 monitors.

[Toasty321]

36 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600K 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor  ($251.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($89.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME Z690-P WIFI D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($223.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($116.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($149.99 @ Adorama) 
Storage: Toshiba 6 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($88.50 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB XC3 ULTRA GAMING iCX3 Video Card  ($1297.99 @ EVGA) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  ($104.99 @ Best Buy) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($104.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: LG 34GL750-B 34.0" 2560x1080 144 Hz Monitor  ($396.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2826.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-04-27 13:31 EDT-0400

 

 

$3000 you should get a 3080ti. Get an ultrawide instead of 2 monitors.

is switching from 2 tb ssd to 1 tb worth it if i switch from 4 to 6tb HDD? also, a ultra wide won’t exactly fit on the desk i have, so a movable monitor stand seems the most plausible. also, is 3600 ddr4 to ddr4 3200 a big downgrade? lastly, i heard noctua heat sinks were the best on the market, is be-quiet any good?

[Jonathan Lee]

I would bump everything up one tier if you have the budget, which it looks like you do.

 

Here's an overall better build for a bit more:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($339.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S chromax.black 82.51 CFM CPU Cooler  ($99.95 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z690 GAMING X DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($209.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($116.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: ADATA XPG GAMMIX S70 Blade 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($127.49 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial P5 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($189.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB PULSE Video Card  ($848.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair 4000D ATX Mid Tower Case  ($94.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 11 FM 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($159.90 @ B&H) 
Case Fan: be quiet! Pure Wings 2 87 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($10.90 @ ModMyMods) 
Monitor: Gigabyte G27Q 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  ($269.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: Gigabyte G27Q 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  ($269.99 @ Newegg) 
Keyboard: Corsair K70 RGB MK.2 Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($134.00 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Logitech G502 HERO Wired Optical Mouse  ($39.93 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2913.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-04-27 14:19 EDT-0400

 

12700K, in my opinion, is the best value CPU in the market right now. The extra 2 p cores and higher clock speeds over the 12600K will give your PC some extra longevity before feeling slow

 

6800XT is an excellent GPU and with 16GB of vram, it should last awhile

 

Got you 2 1440p monitors that are pretty good value

 

Some keyboard and mouse options, but you can go with any

 

The PC itself is about 2K, so that leaves you 1.5K for anything else or bumping stuff up another tier

[DEADPOOLSMOM]

1 hour ago, Toasty321 said:

Budget (including currency): $3,500 USD (Room for margin)

Country: United States of America

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Blender, After Effects, Photoshop, Rust, Csgo, Doom Eternal, and other rtx / graphically stunning games that I can't run on current setup.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

CPU

i5-12600k 3.7 Ghz 10-core (~$250)

 

CPU Cooler

Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black 55 CFM CPU Cooler (~$100)

 

Motherboard

Asus TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS WIFI D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (~$290)

 

RAM

G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (~$160)

 

Storage 

Seagate Barracuda Compute 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive (~$70)

Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (~$270)

 

GPU

MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB VENTUS 3X OC Video Card (~$570)

 

PSU

EVGA G2 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (~$270)

 

Case / Case fans

Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case (comes with 2 fans) (~$105)

Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM chromax.black.swap 60.09 CFM 120 mm Fan (x3) (~$50 x3)

 

Peripherals

LG 24GN650-B 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor (x2) (~$200 x3)

SteelSeries Apex Pro RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard (~$150)

? Dual Monitor Arms VIVO ? (~$100)

Windows 11? 10? (~$110)

 

Total: ~$3000 (tax not included)

 

Background

The current system I have is very crummy. It runs off a i5-3470, gtx 1050ti, with slow ram and no SSD. It struggles to run games like CSGo and Valorant, even on the lowest of low settings. Boot up takes 10-15 minutes on a good day, with start up operations taking a chunk out of my time, even after boot-up. Upgrading to something like listed above, has been my dream for the longest time, is now becoming a reality. 

 

My plans for this build

I plan on rendering in blender, working with After Effects, photoshop, and other Ae programs. I also wish to keep up with my copmetitive games, like CSGO, but also indulge in games like rust, doom eternal, Elden Ring, etc. After ~months of research, i found that the new 12th gen i5 is the best bang for buck, and it will support my other specs, like a 3060ti, 32gb of ram, etc. It also boasts better professional efficiency than previous generations. I went with 32gb for the best performance in Ae programs, and blender. 

 

Monitor help

I have been going back and forth between 2 monitors, 1080p, 144hz, due to the fact that i will be doing alot of editing work, rendering, etc. Basically things that are better with two monitors. The other idea was one, larger 1440p monitor. The 2 1080p's would be 24" while the 1440p is 27". I'm pretty sure ill stick with the 2 1080p's, because the LG 24gn650-b's seem like the best choice. The other issue, is I'm not sure which monitor arms to use. I looked and looked, and I landed on the ViVO premium dual gaming monitor arms. They look to have good construction, good reviews, and they fit the build. Some advice would be appreciated.  

 

Keyboard

Is the steelseries apex PRO any good? I really like the idea of customizable keycap strength, and an OLED screen that can display PC info. For my planned usage of the PC, does this keyboard fit?

 

OS

Is windows 11 good for gaming/productivity? Is sticking with windows 10 the way to go, or are there significant benefits to 11?

 

Mail in rebates?

Are there any sort of rebate programs? I'm not sure... is there even such a thing in the world of PC's?

 

Purchase Location 

There is a microcenter within 30 miles of my current location, so that is a plausible option. For items they may not have, or for easier obtaniablity, amazon or newegg work just fine. 

 

Is it any good?

Would there be anything in this build that I should change? This would be my first build, but luckily i am getting help from someone who knows how to build, and there are plenty of LTT video guides  :).  

 

 

That PSU is ancient and WAY overpriced. Also the u12s is really overpriced too. Gen 4 NVME's aren't worth it and are overpriced. That board is overpriced garbage for the price and way too expensive for a 12600k. Overpriced monitors, WAY overpriced monitor arm/keyboard. Those fans are good but they are only 32$, not $50? I am so confused. 

[DEADPOOLSMOM]

1 hour ago, Toasty321 said:

Budget (including currency): $3,500 USD (Room for margin)

Country: United States of America

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Blender, After Effects, Photoshop, Rust, Csgo, Doom Eternal, and other rtx / graphically stunning games that I can't run on current setup.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

CPU

i5-12600k 3.7 Ghz 10-core (~$250)

 

CPU Cooler

Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black 55 CFM CPU Cooler (~$100)

 

Motherboard

Asus TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS WIFI D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (~$290)

 

RAM

G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (~$160)

 

Storage 

Seagate Barracuda Compute 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive (~$70)

Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (~$270)

 

GPU

MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB VENTUS 3X OC Video Card (~$570)

 

PSU

EVGA G2 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (~$270)

 

Case / Case fans

Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case (comes with 2 fans) (~$105)

Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM chromax.black.swap 60.09 CFM 120 mm Fan (x3) (~$50 x3)

 

Peripherals

LG 24GN650-B 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor (x2) (~$200 x3)

SteelSeries Apex Pro RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard (~$150)

? Dual Monitor Arms VIVO ? (~$100)

Windows 11? 10? (~$110)

 

Total: ~$3000 (tax not included)

 

Background

The current system I have is very crummy. It runs off a i5-3470, gtx 1050ti, with slow ram and no SSD. It struggles to run games like CSGo and Valorant, even on the lowest of low settings. Boot up takes 10-15 minutes on a good day, with start up operations taking a chunk out of my time, even after boot-up. Upgrading to something like listed above, has been my dream for the longest time, is now becoming a reality. 

 

My plans for this build

I plan on rendering in blender, working with After Effects, photoshop, and other Ae programs. I also wish to keep up with my copmetitive games, like CSGO, but also indulge in games like rust, doom eternal, Elden Ring, etc. After ~months of research, i found that the new 12th gen i5 is the best bang for buck, and it will support my other specs, like a 3060ti, 32gb of ram, etc. It also boasts better professional efficiency than previous generations. I went with 32gb for the best performance in Ae programs, and blender. 

 

Monitor help

I have been going back and forth between 2 monitors, 1080p, 144hz, due to the fact that i will be doing alot of editing work, rendering, etc. Basically things that are better with two monitors. The other idea was one, larger 1440p monitor. The 2 1080p's would be 24" while the 1440p is 27". I'm pretty sure ill stick with the 2 1080p's, because the LG 24gn650-b's seem like the best choice. The other issue, is I'm not sure which monitor arms to use. I looked and looked, and I landed on the ViVO premium dual gaming monitor arms. They look to have good construction, good reviews, and they fit the build. Some advice would be appreciated.  

 

Keyboard

Is the steelseries apex PRO any good? I really like the idea of customizable keycap strength, and an OLED screen that can display PC info. For my planned usage of the PC, does this keyboard fit?

 

OS

Is windows 11 good for gaming/productivity? Is sticking with windows 10 the way to go, or are there significant benefits to 11?

 

Mail in rebates?

Are there any sort of rebate programs? I'm not sure... is there even such a thing in the world of PC's?

 

Purchase Location 

There is a microcenter within 30 miles of my current location, so that is a plausible option. For items they may not have, or for easier obtaniablity, amazon or newegg work just fine. 

 

Is it any good?

Would there be anything in this build that I should change? This would be my first build, but luckily i am getting help from someone who knows how to build, and there are plenty of LTT video guides  :).  

 

 

This will absolutely demolish the build you listed 

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LvrTnt

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700F 2.1 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($312.96 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Scythe FUMA 2 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($139.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($165.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial P2 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($155.99 @ GameStop) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 10GB LHR 10 GB FTW3 ULTRA GAMING LHR Video Card  ($937.99 @ EVGA) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  ($104.99 @ Best Buy) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($104.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: Samsung Odyssey G7 27.0" 2560x1440 240 Hz Monitor  ($561.85 @ GameStop) 
Total: $2544.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-04-27 14:47 EDT-0400

[Toasty321]

23 minutes ago, CHICKSLAYA said:

This will absolutely demolish the build you listed 

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LvrTnt

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700F 2.1 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($312.96 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Scythe FUMA 2 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($139.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($165.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial P2 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($155.99 @ GameStop) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 10GB LHR 10 GB FTW3 ULTRA GAMING LHR Video Card  ($937.99 @ EVGA) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  ($104.99 @ Best Buy) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($104.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: Samsung Odyssey G7 27.0" 2560x1440 240 Hz Monitor  ($561.85 @ GameStop) 
Total: $2544.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-04-27 14:47 EDT-0400

Ok, i have a couple questions.

1) What is the difference between a 17-12700F, and a i7-12600K? Is there a peformance difference? 

2) Is the Scythe FUMA heatsink any good? I heard that the Noctua heatsinks are the best on the market, so i thought i would go with one of them. is the scythe matchable?

3) Is it worth it dropping the HDD? I feel like it could be good for saving projects

4) Is the crucial SSD as good as the samsung SSD? the 980 SSD states up to 7,000 mbps read while the cruicial is 2400?

5) the samsung monitor is amazing, and would look crazy good, but i dont think ill like the curvature. Its it avalible in flat?

 

[Toasty321]

46 minutes ago, CHICKSLAYA said:

That PSU is ancient and WAY overpriced. Also the u12s is really overpriced too. Gen 4 NVME's aren't worth it and are overpriced. That board is overpriced garbage for the price and way too expensive for a 12600k. Overpriced monitors, WAY overpriced monitor arm/keyboard. Those fans are good but they are only 32$, not $50? I am so confused. 

The case fans are stated to be 50 each on PC part picker, so im not sure.(https://pcpartpicker.com/mr/amazon/4q7G3C) 

 

The monitor arm i figured was overpriced, but im not sure about what else there is. The keyboard is somehwat understandable, for it having customizeable

interface for majority of the key caps, and an customizable OLED screen top right for data. Its also less than the current Razer's so im again, not sure. 

 

What monitors would work the best? I was hoping for high hertz while maintaning 1080p and dual.

[SupaKomputa]

1 hour ago, Toasty321 said:

is switching from 2 tb ssd to 1 tb worth it if i switch from 4 to 6tb HDD? also, a ultra wide won’t exactly fit on the desk i have, so a movable monitor stand seems the most plausible. also, is 3600 ddr4 to ddr4 3200 a big downgrade? lastly, i heard noctua heat sinks were the best on the market, is be-quiet any good?

haha yes, even with my 512gb i'm still have a lot of empty space.

If you don't install anything big, it won't be a problem. i have all my games outside my ssd.

no 3200 is not that big, you can very easily overclock it to 3600 (even higher) for free especially with a Z mobo.

noctua are the best, but you don't really need that.

[Toasty321]

On 4/27/2022 at 10:23 PM, SupaKomputa said:

haha yes, even with my 512gb i'm still have a lot of empty space.

If you don't install anything big, it won't be a problem. i have all my games outside my ssd.

no 3200 is not that big, you can very easily overclock it to 3600 (even higher) for free especially with a Z mobo.

noctua are the best, but you don't really need that.

I see... I still have a couple questions.

 

What is a Z mobo?

 

Would it be better to drop the GPU down to a 10GB 3080, to boost the i5 12600K to a i712700K?

 

and for the ultrawide, does it support screen spliting? im worried about multi-tasking when editing 

 

On 4/27/2022 at 9:22 PM, Jonathan Lee said:

I would bump everything up one tier if you have the budget, which it looks like you do.

 

Here's an overall better build for a bit more:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($339.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S chromax.black 82.51 CFM CPU Cooler  ($99.95 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z690 GAMING X DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($209.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($116.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: ADATA XPG GAMMIX S70 Blade 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($127.49 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial P5 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($189.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB PULSE Video Card  ($848.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair 4000D ATX Mid Tower Case  ($94.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 11 FM 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($159.90 @ B&H) 
Case Fan: be quiet! Pure Wings 2 87 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($10.90 @ ModMyMods) 
Monitor: Gigabyte G27Q 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  ($269.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: Gigabyte G27Q 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  ($269.99 @ Newegg) 
Keyboard: Corsair K70 RGB MK.2 Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($134.00 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Logitech G502 HERO Wired Optical Mouse  ($39.93 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2913.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-04-27 14:19 EDT-0400

 

12700K, in my opinion, is the best value CPU in the market right now. The extra 2 p cores and higher clock speeds over the 12600K will give your PC some extra longevity before feeling slow

 

6800XT is an excellent GPU and with 16GB of vram, it should last awhile

 

Got you 2 1440p monitors that are pretty good value

 

Some keyboard and mouse options, but you can go with any

 

The PC itself is about 2K, so that leaves you 1.5K for anything else or bumping stuff up another tier

Ok, looks like a solid build. I have a few questions. 

 

1) Why the 6800XT? It boasts better pixel rendering, and is reportetly better than a 3060-ti, but what about a 3080 10gb? The 3080 was the other choice for GPU's, and Its became a top pick. Would the 6800XT also work with freesync better than a nvida card? 

 

2) Why are there two different m.2's listed? Why not stick with one 2tb and then an HDD? also the switch from 7000mbps samsung to a slower Crucial? 

 

3) The monitors are amazing, but too big. Would one 27" still work well? 

 

4) I already have a g502 HERO, but with the keyboard, why corsair? I currently have a corsair, and its alright. The customizable weight of the keycaps in the apex pro appealed to me, but is the k70 corsair good?

 

On 4/27/2022 at 8:27 PM, Pixelfie said:

Pretty good, apart from the extremely overpriced PSU. This one is much cheaper and better. Maybe you should also upgrade to a 3070 Ti, which shouldn't cost much more since we saved money on the PSU. This one seems good.

 

I don't know much about monitors, so can't help you on that. The keyboard is pretty decent afaik. 

 

Both Windows 10 and 11 should work well. There's not really one much better than the other imo, but I think for now 10 might be better until the next major update for 11 releases, because 11 is missing out on some basic stuff (like drag and drop). Also you don't need to spend that much on Windows, you can get cheap keys online for like $10.

The PSU i assumed was overpriced, so picking a better one makes sense. would flipping the 3060ti for a 3080 (https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=10G-P5-3897-KL)

 

is a 10$ windows key not sketchy? I thought windows blocked PC's with pirated OS's . I figured sticking with windows 10 was better anyways

[Jonathan Lee]

26 minutes ago, Toasty321 said:

1) Why the 6800XT? It boasts better pixel rendering, and is reportetly better than a 3060-ti, but what about a 3080 10gb? The 3080 was the other choice for GPU's, and Its became a top pick. Would the 6800XT also work with freesync better than a nvida card? 

16 GB of vram provides much better value than the 8,10, or 12 of the Nvidia options. Th RX6800XT performs similarly to the RTX 3080 minus the ray tracing. If you want to have really good ray tracing, I would go with Nvidia. Free sync will work on either AMD or Nvidia.

 

28 minutes ago, Toasty321 said:

2) Why are there two different m.2's listed? Why not stick with one 2tb and then an HDD? also the switch from 7000mbps samsung to a slower Crucial? 

1TB gen 4 for boot (you can make 2TB if you want), 2TB for games library. There isn't a visible difference in load times between a gen 3 and 4 drive (yet), so you can get more storage for similar price without a big sacrifice in real world performance.

 

30 minutes ago, Toasty321 said:

3) The monitors are amazing, but too big. Would one 27" still work well? 

The ones I recommended are 27" monitors. If you're wondering about smaller monitor, yes they would work too. They are typically only 1080p resolution

 

31 minutes ago, Toasty321 said:

4) I already have a g502 HERO, but with the keyboard, why corsair? I currently have a corsair, and its alright. The customizable weight of the keycaps in the apex pro appealed to me, but is the k70 corsair good?

They were keyboard and mouse with good reviews, but I'm not a keyboard connoisseur so take my advice with a grain of salt. I personally use some cheap redragon K552 and it's been fine for me XD 

 

45 minutes ago, Toasty321 said:

Would it be better to drop the GPU down to a 10GB 3080, to boost the i5 12600K to a i712700K?

 

and for the ultrawide, does it support screen spliting? im worried about multi-tasking when editing 

If you multi-task a lot, yes it would help keep games running at consistent frames. Ultrawide does support split screen too my knowledge, but I'm not familiar with setting up

[Pixelfie]

32 minutes ago, Toasty321 said:

The PSU i assumed was overpriced, so picking a better one makes sense. would flipping the 3060ti for a 3080 (https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=10G-P5-3897-KL)

 

is a 10$ windows key not sketchy? I thought windows blocked PC's with pirated OS's . I figured sticking with windows 10 was better anyways

Yeah, that 3080 should work well. I would also consider a 6800 XT. Performance is between a 3080 10gb and 3080 Ti, it's cheaper and it has 16gb VRAM. Only thing is that I don't know how well AMD cards run for non gaming tasks.

[SupaKomputa]

48 minutes ago, Toasty321 said:

I see... I still have a couple questions.

 

What is a Z mobo?

 

Would it be better to drop the GPU down to a 10GB 3080, to boost the i5 12600K to a i712700K?

 

and for the ultrawide, does it support screen spliting? im worried about multi-tasking when editing 

Z mothoerboard is the top end of Intel chipset, it allows overclocking of the CPU and Memory.

12600 and 12700 only down 2 cores which is not a problem. The difference is not that much, especially for gaming.

For what you are doing, you probably will benefit from higher VRAM on the GPU, so get the best while you have the money.

Yes, some of ultrawide support native screen splitting, if not you can just split it with windows 11 build in windows tiling.

[Toasty321]

59 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

Z mothoerboard is the top end of Intel chipset, it allows overclocking of the CPU and Memory.

12600 and 12700 only down 2 cores which is not a problem. The difference is not that much, especially for gaming.

For what you are doing, you probably will benefit from higher VRAM on the GPU, so get the best while you have the money.

Yes, some of ultrawide support native screen splitting, if not you can just split it with windows 11 build in windows tiling.

That makes sense for the CPU's. For the VRAM on gpu's, would the 3080 10gb run similar to the 6800xt? (thats what i see everyone refrencing) 

 

With the ultrawide, how many games actually support that resolution? i worry about that because i also play games like csgo.

 

Lastly, would windows 10 support windows tiling?

[Toasty321]

1 hour ago, Pixelfie said:

Yeah, that 3080 should work well. I would also consider a 6800 XT. Performance is between a 3080 10gb and 3080 Ti, it's cheaper and it has 16gb VRAM. Only thing is that I don't know how well AMD cards run for non gaming tasks.

yeah, the non-gaming/rendering aspect was a big component. Wouldnt the 3080 have a good meidum between gaming and rendering, over the 6800xt which is more for gaming? also isnt the 6800xt marketed for 1440p gaming? if so, what monitor would work best?

[Toasty321]

1 hour ago, Jonathan Lee said:

16 GB of vram provides much better value than the 8,10, or 12 of the Nvidia options. Th RX6800XT performs similarly to the RTX 3080 minus the ray tracing. If you want to have really good ray tracing, I would go with Nvidia. Free sync will work on either AMD or Nvidia.

 

1TB gen 4 for boot (you can make 2TB if you want), 2TB for games library. There isn't a visible difference in load times between a gen 3 and 4 drive (yet), so you can get more storage for similar price without a big sacrifice in real world performance.

 

The ones I recommended are 27" monitors. If you're wondering about smaller monitor, yes they would work too. They are typically only 1080p resolution

 

They were keyboard and mouse with good reviews, but I'm not a keyboard connoisseur so take my advice with a grain of salt. I personally use some cheap redragon K552 and it's been fine for me XD 

 

If you multi-task a lot, yes it would help keep games running at consistent frames. Ultrawide does support split screen too my knowledge, but I'm not familiar with setting up

The raytracing is only really applicable in some games, correct? ontop of that, is the 6800xt anygood in the rendering/editing field? I heard its best at 1440p gaming, and if so, what monitor would work best? The SSD makes sense, especially if its basically the same.For the 27" i was refrenceing the fact you linked 2 27", so would one 32" work the same, or should i drop it down back to 24" 1080p. But if i drop it to 1080P, is the 6800xt worth it? Finally, for the multitasking, it would be more for when im editing/rendering, not exactly gaming. Is it still worth it? And for gaming, if anything else was running, it would be spotify/youtube streaming. Still worth to buy a i7?

[Jonathan Lee]

7 minutes ago, Toasty321 said:

And for gaming, if anything else was running, it would be spotify/youtube streaming. Still worth to buy a i7?

The 12600k will be fine for that use case. I still think the 12700K is overall better value though, it would make games play smoother still/delay the need to upgrade for maybe 1-2 years

 

8 minutes ago, Toasty321 said:

For the 27" i was refrenceing the fact you linked 2 27", so would one 32" work the same,

Depends if you want a second monitor to have something else up while gaming. You get more screen real estate with two monitors (unless you're getting an ultrawide)

 

11 minutes ago, Toasty321 said:

But if i drop it to 1080P, is the 6800xt worth it

You could still go with it, you can max out all your games and not worry about upgrading your GPU for longer. Yea, it is pretty overkill, but I would still go for it I've you can afford it

[Toasty321]

2 minutes ago, Jonathan Lee said:

The 12600k will be fine for that use case. I still think the 12700K is overall better value though, it would make games play smoother still/delay the need to upgrade for maybe 1-2 years

 

Depends if you want a second monitor to have something else up while gaming. You get more screen real estate with two monitors (unless you're getting an ultrawide)

 

You could still go with it, you can max out all your games and not worry about upgrading your GPU for longer. Yea, it is pretty overkill, but I would still go for it I've you can afford it

Yeah, the 12700k lookes promising. 

 

I think the dual monitor is the way to go, but i dont know how to mount them. I dont really want to leave them to thier basic stands, but i cant find any good monitor arms. do you have any reccomendations?

 

I think the 6800xt looks nice, but how does it peform with rendering/editing? that would be a game changer

[SupaKomputa]

51 minutes ago, Toasty321 said:

That makes sense for the CPU's. For the VRAM on gpu's, would the 3080 10gb run similar to the 6800xt? (thats what i see everyone refrencing) 

 

With the ultrawide, how many games actually support that resolution? i worry about that because i also play games like csgo.

 

Lastly, would windows 10 support windows tiling?

Nvidia cards usually plays well with adobe, not to say that amd card won't work, but it has more support, especially with add ons like vray.

For purely gaming, yes, amd card probably is the best bang for the buck.

 

Ultrawide is not generally supported, but i you can just play it at native resolution (with the corner blackout).

You should study about ultrawide first in youtube, get what other designer think about it.

i think it's good for productivity app like video editing where you can have extended timeline view.

 

Windows 10 support basic tiling, not as advance as win11.

[Jonathan Lee]

53 minutes ago, Toasty321 said:

 

I think the 6800xt looks nice, but how does it peform with rendering/editing? that would be a game changer

For rendering, the 30 series looks overall better than 6800XT. I referred to this website: https://www.hwcooling.net/en/rx-6800-xt-vs-rtx-3080-part-2-2-non-gaming-tests/11/

 

I would look for the 12 GB model of 3080 or maybe lower end GPU if you don't play much AAA games.

[Toasty321]

2 hours ago, Jonathan Lee said:

For rendering, the 30 series looks overall better than 6800XT. I referred to this website: https://www.hwcooling.net/en/rx-6800-xt-vs-rtx-3080-part-2-2-non-gaming-tests/11/

 

I would look for the 12 GB model of 3080 or maybe lower end GPU if you don't play much AAA games.

I definetly plan on playing AAA games, or more visually stunning games, so 12gb looks good.

[Toasty321]

3 hours ago, SupaKomputa said:

Nvidia cards usually plays well with adobe, not to say that amd card won't work, but it has more support, especially with add ons like vray.

For purely gaming, yes, amd card probably is the best bang for the buck.

 

Ultrawide is not generally supported, but i you can just play it at native resolution (with the corner blackout).

You should study about ultrawide first in youtube, get what other designer think about it.

i think it's good for productivity app like video editing where you can have extended timeline view.

 

Windows 10 support basic tiling, not as advance as win11.

an ultrawide looks amazing, other that the fact it wont really fit on my setup, and its still a 1080p. Would the samsung oddessy g7 1440p be good? 240hz is nice. Do you know anything about the curvature?

[SupaKomputa]

9 hours ago, Toasty321 said:

an ultrawide looks amazing, other that the fact it wont really fit on my setup, and its still a 1080p. Would the samsung oddessy g7 1440p be good? 240hz is nice. Do you know anything about the curvature?

G7 is good, but overpriced, i would try getting a cheaper one, because the difference is not night and day.

about curvature, the lower means more curvature, there are 1 tipe 1.8R and 1R.

Personally i don't like curvature (or to be exact never tried).

240hz is nice to have but if youre not into high response games, don't bother.

[Toasty321]

39 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

G7 is good, but overpriced, i would try getting a cheaper one, because the difference is not night and day.

about curvature, the lower means more curvature, there are 1 tipe 1.8R and 1R.

Personally i don't like curvature (or to be exact never tried).

240hz is nice to have but if youre not into high response games, don't bother.

Yeah, the samsung oddessy series is pretty overpriced in general, and the curved screen is unwanted. I do play high-response games, but also more graphacally based games, so a 1440p with high hz would be nice. What do you think of the Asus TUF gaming 1440p monitor? (https://pcpartpicker.com/mr/asus/pGqBD3)