The new AM4 4000-series of desktop CPU's

[FinOxy]

Hey, I just was looking at one of the retailers, which sells PC components locally here in Finland. 
I came across a couple of interesting SKU's, all running zen 2 architecture, and coming with a wraith stealh cooler, and identical 
AMD Ryzen 3 4100
4c,4t, unlocked and comes with a wraith stealth stock cooler
AMD ryzen 4500 
6c,12t, unlocked and comes with a wraith stealth stock cooler
Also, the clocks of this CPU are very close to the ryzen 5 3600, the 4500 has official boost clock of 4,1 GHz, compared to the 3600 4,2. And both have the same base frequency of 3,6 GHz
However, the major thing here is the pricing locally at least
The 4100 comes in with 119e (inc. tax), the 4500 at 149,90e (inc. tax) and the 3600 is at 245,90e (inc. tax).
 
I have not seen any articles talking about these new zen 2 SKU's, which is pretty strange. It really seems that AMD is trying to capture the lower end of the market with these 4c and 6c CPU's
Althought, If I remember corretly, wasn't the 4000-series of destop CPU's supposed to be only with AMD APU's?
Or have I missed something major
 

The listings
https://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/catalog/11428c/AMD-Ryzen?sort=price%3Aasc
https://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/778360/AMD-Ryzen-3-4100-prosessori-AM4-kantaan
https://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/778357/AMD-Ryzen-5-4500-prosessori-AM4-kantaan
https://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/556846/AMD-Ryzen-5-3600-prosessori-AM4-kantaan
https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/List/000-1WM/komponentit--prosessorit--amd-socket-am4--ryzen-4000-sarja

[Rauten]

Yeh they were announced about... a month ago or so? But they're not really that interesting and are very likely to get absolutely trounced by Intel's 12th gen not just in raw performance, but in price/performance as well.

 

Found an AnandTech article: https://www.anandtech.com/show/17313/ryzen-7-5800x3d-launches-april-20th-plus-6-new-low-mid-range-ryzen-chips

[thekingofmonks]

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I think that site is a scam?

 

Because as far as I know in the Ryzen 4000 lineup there are only the 4300 and 4700 G and GE, and nothing such as the 4100 or the 4500, though I am aware that the 3600 is a thing.

 

This all just seems very sketchy to me. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[YoungBlade]

The Ryzen 5 4500 is basically a 4600G with the integrated graphics disabled.

 

The Ryzen 3 4100 is basically a 4300G with the integrated graphics disabled.

 

1 minute ago, thekingofmonks said:

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I think that site is a scam?

 

Because as far as I know in the Ryzen 4000 lineup there are only the 4300 and 4700 G and GE, and nothing such as the 4100 or the 4500, though I am aware that the 3600 is a thing.

 

This all just seems very sketchy to me. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

You are completely wrong. Next time, please do at least a basic web search before claiming that a site is a scam.

 

https://www.techspot.com/news/93783-amd-launches-7-new-ryzen-cpus-200-ryzen.html

 

[Helpful Tech Witch]

3 minutes ago, thekingofmonks said:

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I think that site is a scam?

 

Because as far as I know in the Ryzen 4000 lineup there are only the 4300 and 4700 G and GE, and nothing such as the 4100 or the 4500, though I am aware that the 3600 is a thing.

 

This all just seems very sketchy to me. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

your wrong. AMD anounced these a month ago.

a 4100, a 4500, and a 4600g iirc. as well as a 5600 (non x) and a 5700 and the 5800x3d release date

[FinOxy]

1 hour ago, thekingofmonks said:

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I think that site is a scam?

 

Because as far as I know in the Ryzen 4000 lineup there are only the 4300 and 4700 G and GE, and nothing such as the 4100 or the 4500, though I am aware that the 3600 is a thing.

 

This all just seems very sketchy to me. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Nope, I can confirm that both verkkokauppa.com and Jimm's are legit retailers, because I have been their customers for years, both on location and on the internet
 

[FinOxy]

1 hour ago, Rauten said:

Yeh they were announced about... a month ago or so? But they're not really that interesting and are very likely to get absolutely trounced by Intel's 12th gen not just in raw performance, but in price/performance as well.

 

Found an AnandTech article: https://www.anandtech.com/show/17313/ryzen-7-5800x3d-launches-april-20th-plus-6-new-low-mid-range-ryzen-chips

Allright, it probably missed my ears, 
I knew about the 5800x3D etc
But not about these "new" zen 2 parts

[thekingofmonks]

14 hours ago, YoungBlade said:

You are completely wrong. Next time, please do at least a basic web search before claiming that a site is a scam.

Except I have done separate searches for each of them, and have found nothing but articles from a year ago on the 4000 lineup's release. You also don't need to act up and tell me that I'm wrong, as if me saying that I could be wrong was just pointless.

[FinOxy]

On 4/8/2022 at 9:10 AM, thekingofmonks said:

Except I have done separate searches for each of them, and have found nothing but articles from a year ago on the 4000 lineup's release. You also don't need to act up and tell me that I'm wrong, as if me saying that I could be wrong was just pointless.

Hmm, that is very much odd
Maybe you did not see the page, not imposible. 
But calling you completely wrong is justified in this case, because that retailer is not a scammer. That can be found pretty quicly, since the Finnish is gramaticly correct (a sign of a scammer trying to reach the Finnish market), there are multiple retail-locations, which check out on google maps. And off course, correct contact info and they have a valid Y-tunnus. 
I can understand why someone might miss some of these, but still, you shouldn't be able to miss them all.
There are also valid listings for those CPU's at AMD.com

references
https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-5-4500
https://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/yritystiedot