RTX 3060 Worse performance than GTX 1070

[Washed]

Hey guys hoping you can help me here. 

 

About a month ago I found a good deal on a brand new Gigabyte Vision OC RTX 3060 to upgrade from my old 1070. 

 

However in most games I play the FPS is either the same or lower. The usage for the GPU in these games is noticeably low same for the voltage. (I used MSI afterburner to monitor these) 

 

So far I've tested: The Witcher 3, Rainbow 6 siege, Minecraft, FH5, Titanfall 2, CS:GO, We happy few, Destiny 2 and BF 2042. 

 

Only Witcher 3, destiny 2 and FH5 saw any improvement and not by much. The other games mostly run worse Minecraft and Rainbow six are by far the worst, with Minecraft maxing out at about 70fps when my 1070 would do 144fps with no issue. And rainbow 6 dropping about 50fps from my 1070.

 

So far to fix this I've tried: Not running afterburner (or any OC software) DDUing and reinstalling the latest drivers, updated both my Mobo BIOS and the chipset drivers, ensured the cared is running the full PCI-e lanes that it's supposed to using cpu-z and reseating the card. 

 

I'm fully at a loss for what is causing this. Hoping you guys can maybe figure it out. 

 

EDIT: 

I'm stupid completely forgot to mention this issue didn't happen on first install. And after a DDU and reinstall it's fixed until a system shutdown. 

 

(Full system Specs)

 

Ryzen 5 3600 @ 4.2Ghz

 

Gigabyte Vision OC 12Gb RTX 3060

 

B450 Aorus elite Mobo.

 

Corsair Vengeance 3000Mhz CL 16

 

Cooler master MasterWatt 650w PSU

[Mark Kaine]

Honestly this isnt much of an upgrade,  so yeah some games should perform better,  while others might not.

 

Run a 3DMark 

 

FIRESTRIKE 

 

benchmark (free demo on steam) or better yet several and link to the results here.

[Eighjan]

7 minutes ago, Washed said:

B450 Aorus elite

You DO realise that your motherboard does not run at PCI-E Gen 4 speeds...?  An RTX 3060 is a Gen 4 card.

[Mark Kaine]

7 minutes ago, Eighjan said:

You DO realise that your motherboard does not run at PCI-E Gen 4 speeds...?  An RTX 3060 is a Gen 4 card.

there is little  to no improvements with a 3080 and gen4 , i doubt it matters for a 3060.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.techspot.com/amp/review/2104-pcie4-vs-pcie3-gpu-performance/

 

 

[Eighjan]

4 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

there is little  to no improvements with a 3080 and gen4 , i doubt it matters for a 3060.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.techspot.com/amp/review/2104-pcie4-vs-pcie3-gpu-performance/

 

 

 

Was just by way of an FTR... I wouldn't personally put a Gen 4 card on a 'board that didn't have a Gen 4 slot.

[Chris Pratt]

12 minutes ago, Eighjan said:

You DO realise that your motherboard does not run at PCI-E Gen 4 speeds...?  An RTX 3060 is a Gen 4 card.

Very few cards exceed PCIe 3.0x16 bandwidth, whether the interface is PCIe 4.0 or not. The 3080, 3080 Ti, 3090, etc. are some that do, but even then, it's like 5-10% performance difference 3.0 to 4.0. The 3060 most definitely does not need PCIe 4.0.

 

It is problematic on some of the lower end AMD cards, since those are actually PCIe 4.0x8, so stuffing them into a PCIe 3.0 slot, means you're capped at PCIe 3.0x8, which is pretty easy to exceed.

[GuiltySpark_]

27 minutes ago, Washed said:

Only Witcher 3, destiny 2 and FH5 saw any improvement and not by much. The other games mostly run worse Minecraft and Rainbow six are by far the worst, with Minecraft maxing out at about 70fps when my 1070 would do 144fps with no issue. And rainbow 6 dropping about 50fps from my 1070.

Both of these games are heavily CPU bound but it doesn't explain that massive performance deficit. You shouldn't have gone backwards to that degree. Is the card operating as it should? Clockspeed?

[Washed]

5 minutes ago, rickeo said:

Both of these games are heavily CPU bound but it doesn't explain that massive performance deficit. You shouldn't have gone backwards to that degree. Is the card operating as it should? Clockspeed?

In every game except Minecraft the cards clocks are perfectly fine yeah 

 

[Washed]

24 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

Honestly this isnt much of an upgrade,  so yeah some games should perform better,  while others might not.

 

Run a 3DMark 

 

FIRESTRIKE 

 

benchmark (free demo on steam) or better yet several and link to the results here.

I'll be sure to run those. But from what I had seen on YouTube and other online resources the 3060 was almost doubling the framerates in certain games, but I can't seem to reproduce those results. 

[Feta Cheese]

2 minutes ago, Washed said:

I'll be sure to run those. But from what I had seen on YouTube and other online resources the 3060 was almost doubling the framerates in certain games, but I can't seem to reproduce those results. 

are you sure those benchmarks had the same cpu as you?

 

[Mark Kaine]

13 minutes ago, rickeo said:

Both of these games are heavily CPU bound but it doesn't explain that massive performance deficit. You shouldn't have gone backwards to that degree. Is the card operating as it should? Clockspeed?

 

 

Honestly ever since i saw GN testing it and him, the god of overclocking,  saying its not really worth it and that there's a real risk of regression,  not to mention degression , im highly skeptical when i see a 3600 oc, it could be something like that,  or in this case actually bottlenecking,  for "reasons"... OP should definitely check per core usage,  besides running some FIRESTRIKE benchmarks (which is always quite enlightening) 

 

7 minutes ago, Washed said:

In every game except Minecraft the cards clocks are perfectly fine yeah 

 

see above,  check your cpu per core usage while playing these games .

 

[Washed]

8 minutes ago, Feta Cheese said:

are you sure those benchmarks had the same cpu as you?

 

Some of the ones I found on websites and such weren't the same no. But I watched multiple of these with my same CPU. The one linked was one of the main ones I used. 

 

 

[Washed]

9 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

 

 

Honestly ever since i saw GN testing it and him, the god of overclocking,  saying its not really worth it and that there's a real risk of regression,  not to mention degression , im highly skeptical when i see a 3600 oc, it could be something like that,  or in this case actually bottlenecking,  for "reasons"... OP should definitely check per core usage,  besides running some FIRESTRIKE benchmarks (which is always quite enlightening) 

 

see above,  check your cpu per core usage while playing these games .

 

I've never seen the usage go above 80% in any game I play. And in most of them it hovers anywhere from 50% - 70%

[IkeaGnome]

11 minutes ago, Washed said:

I've never seen the usage go above 80% in any game I play. And in most of them it hovers anywhere from 50% - 70%

Per core. Not overall. Not every game uses all cores of the CPU. If it's a 6 core CPU, 3 are running at 100% and three are idle at 0% it'll report 50% usage. 

Task manager>more details>performance>CPU>Right click graph and select "change graph to logical processors"