Is there a budget boom arm that can do this ?

[Pohoda Lust]

The title. Thanks for your response

[Bombastinator]

That actually looks like an arm for what used to be actually sold under the brand name “econolamp”  they have an issue where as the springs gradually lose stretchiness over time they start to have problems. There was another lamp designed called a “tizio lamp” that used counterweights instead and as a result did not wear out, but some idiot judge allowed them to copy-write instead of patent their design so they sold for absurdly large amounts of money many years after their initial design.  I don’t know what happened to them. There is a third design called a “goose neck” lamp that does most of the same things but relies on friction instead of springs or counterweights and therefore lasts even less time. They were also more complicated and therefor tended to sell for more than the spring ones.  All three designs are well out of patent (except for that stupid copy-write thing) I suspect the counterweight one would be the cheapest as it has the fewest parts but that is not to be because of that judge, making the spring arm lamps the cheapest. 

[Pohoda Lust]

1 hour ago, Bombastinator said:

That actually looks like an arm for what used to be actually sold under the brand name “econolamp”  they have an issue where as the springs gradually lose stretchiness over time they start to have problems. There was another lamp designed called a “tizio lamp” that used counterweights instead and as a result did not wear out, but some idiot judge allowed them to copy-write instead of patent their design so they sold for absurdly large amounts of money many years after their initial design.  I don’t know what happened to them. There is a third design called a “goose neck” lamp that does most of the same things but relies on friction instead of springs or counterweights and therefore lasts even less time. They were also more complicated and therefor tended to sell for more than the spring ones.  All three designs are well out of patent (except for that stupid copy-write thing) I suspect the counterweight one would be the cheapest as it has the fewest parts but that is not to be because of that judge, making the spring arm lamps the cheapest. 

Thanks for the response <3. Well that is unfortunate i want to get a mic but I have no way of mounting the regular boom arm on my setup.

[tikker]

2 hours ago, Pohoda Lust said:

The title. Thanks for your response

Buy the boom arm pictured? Here in Europe they go under the TIE brand. I have one as well.

https://tie-products.com/en/produkt/flexible-mic-stand/

[Pohoda Lust]

Just now, tikker said:

Buy the boom arm pictured?

it's a simple photoshop i made it's not a real product

[tikker]

1 minute ago, Pohoda Lust said:

it's a simple photoshop i made it's not a real product

It's hard to tell what you photoshopped. The springs? Anyway, those mic arms exist in the literal form depicted in your image. I updated my previous post with one example. I think they go by Neewer in other places.

[Bombastinator]

What I would do personally in this case is build my own.  I would get a cheap ass spring arm lamp, remove the lamp bit from its cord, weigh the head, find a microphone with the appropriate connection requirements of about the same weight, either use the two wire connection of the electrical cord or fish a different one (fishing a cord will suck) and splice in the appropriate jack (my memory is at least some types of microphone are two wire) affix the microphone to the place where the lamp was, and go.  Not a turnkey solution, but a lot of audio stuff is really expensive.  I doubt you will find a solution for a microphone that isn’t extremely expensive. Such things do exist, of course.

[tikker]

1 minute ago, Bombastinator said:

What I would do in this case is build my own.  I would get a cheap ass spring arm lamp, remove the lamp bit from its cord, weigh the head, find a microphone with the appropriate connection requirements of about the same weight, either use the two wire connection of the electrical cord or fish a different one (fishing a cord will suck) and splice in the appropriate jack (my memory is at least some types of microphone are two wire) affix the microphone to the place where the lamp was, and go.  Not a turnkey solution, but a lot of audio stuff is really expensive.  I doubt you will find a solution for a microphone that isn’t extremely expensive. 

The one OP shows cost like $20-30 maybe. They just can't handle heavy/heavier mics, but other than that they are fine. I use one like that for my Rode NT USB Mini. Better ones increase in price quickly to $100 or more though.

[circeseye]

3 hours ago, Pohoda Lust said:

The title. Thanks for your response

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CN2C93T/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

holds a weighty mic really good.

[Bombastinator]

16 minutes ago, circeseye said:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CN2C93T/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

holds a weighty mic really good.

Interesting.  Instead of fishing a wire there is no attempt to at all, and the cord just hangs, adding it’s weight to the microphone. Might have some really strong springs there. Wont be much pricier than a lamp though.  This is a superior solution to mine I think.

[Bombastinator]

43 minutes ago, tikker said:

The one OP shows cost like $20-30 maybe. They just can't handle heavy/heavier mics, but other than that they are fine. I use one like that for my Rode NT USB Mini. Better ones increase in price quickly to $100 or more though.

The OP shows an example?  I am not finding it.

[Pohoda Lust]

 

1 hour ago, tikker said:

It's hard to tell what you photoshopped. The springs? Anyway, those mic arms exist in the literal form depicted in your image. I updated my previous post with one example. I think they go by Neewer in other places.

The top part of the arm is rotated to the other side. I need the clamp facing the other way of the arm itself.

[Pohoda Lust]

1 hour ago, tikker said:

The one OP shows cost like $20-30 maybe. They just can't handle heavy/heavier mics, but other than that they are fine. I use one like that for my Rode NT USB Mini. Better ones increase in price quickly to $100 or more though.

I just want to use a budget mic like the fifine 669  
if you have any recommendations u can link them.

[Pohoda Lust]

1 hour ago, circeseye said:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CN2C93T/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

holds a weighty mic really good.

Thanks for your response .

[Pohoda Lust]

1 hour ago, Bombastinator said:

What I would do personally in this case is build my own.  I would get a cheap ass spring arm lamp, remove the lamp bit from its cord, weigh the head, find a microphone with the appropriate connection requirements of about the same weight, either use the two wire connection of the electrical cord or fish a different one (fishing a cord will suck) and splice in the appropriate jack (my memory is at least some types of microphone are two wire) affix the microphone to the place where the lamp was, and go.  Not a turnkey solution, but a lot of audio stuff is really expensive.  I doubt you will find a solution for a microphone that isn’t extremely expensive. Such things do exist, of course.

Biulding one is out of my abilities  .

[Bombastinator]

54 minutes ago, Pohoda Lust said:

Biulding one is out of my abilities  .

Looks like you won’t have to. The trick seems to be microphone weight. If you have a reasonably light microphone one can be gotten for fairly cheap anyway it seems. $30 is more than $12, but it’s a whole lot less than $150, which is what I thought you might have to spend.  If the mic is heavy enough you still might have to, but at that point it might be worth looking at a lighter mic.  DIY is the only way I know of to do really cheap audio gear.  Putting mics on spring arms just isn’t something people have been doing for 150 years.  Gravity booms were the only game in town and they were pricier. Metal weights.  

Edited December 17, 2021 by Bombastinator

[H713]

Get a regular mic stand and mount the vertical pipe to a clamp. Might have to cut it off, but works good and is WAY more solid than any of these spring-loaded mic arms. The springs look cool for 30 seconds until you realize that they're hot garbage. I haven't tried any expensive spring-loaded mic stands, but I can't imagine they're that much better.

 

If you really don't want to build it, you could even just put the stand on the floor next to your desk - I've made it work before.

 

I don't have a picture of what I did, but I basically cut off an old AKG mic stand I had laying around and machined a new clamp. I used stainless steel because I'm a masochist, but you could use almost anything (including plastics).  It's so easy a B-average physics major can do it.

 

Alternatively, you could even just zip-tie it to a desk leg. Lots of possibilities here.

 

Normal mic stands will have a 5/8 - 27 thread for mounting whatever clip or mic you want. 

[Bombastinator]

1 hour ago, H713 said:

Get a regular mic stand and mount the vertical pipe to a clamp. Might have to cut it off, but works good and is WAY more solid than any of these spring-loaded mic arms. The springs look cool for 30 seconds until you realize that they're hot garbage. I haven't tried any expensive spring-loaded mic stands, but I can't imagine they're that much better.

 

If you really don't want to build it, you could even just put the stand on the floor next to your desk - I've made it work before.

 

I don't have a picture of what I did, but I basically cut off an old AKG mic stand I had laying around and machined a new clamp. I used stainless steel because I'm a masochist, but you could use almost anything (including plastics).  It's so easy a B-average physics major can do it.

 

Alternatively, you could even just zip-tie it to a desk leg. Lots of possibilities here.

 

Normal mic stands will have a 5/8 - 27 thread for mounting whatever clip or mic you want. 

This is to a degree true.  A spring arm will move If you bump it with just about anything.  Its sort of the whole point, but it can cause problems.  They do often have friction clamps at the joints, but they are not especially strong.  Also they make noise when they are adjusted. 

Edited December 17, 2021 by Bombastinator

[H713]

29 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

This is to a degree true.  A spring arm will move If you bump it with just about anything.  Its sort of the whole point, but it can cause problems.  They do often have friction clamps at the joints, but they are not especially strong.  Also they make noise when they are adjusted. 

And most of them are extremely flimsy. They really aren't built to a reasonable quality standard. I tried a couple, but none of them are something I'd be willing to hang a $500 microphone from. 

[Bombastinator]

3 minutes ago, H713 said:

And most of them are extremely flimsy. They really aren't built to a reasonable quality standard. I tried a couple, but none of them are something I'd be willing to hang a $500 microphone from. 

Assuming the definition of “reasonable quality standard” is being able to hang a $500 microphone from it.  Their value is situational.  They do have a massive compactness advantage over old school boom arms. They collapse and fold out of the way.  Boom arms are basically just pipes with clamps, counterbalance weights, and connectors on them and by definition don’t fold well.  And the telescoping ones have similar flimsiness disadvantages.  Boom arms are often quite long and they have limited adjustability. Basically any movable arm without a strong joint movement arresting system is going to do that. 

[tikker]

9 hours ago, Pohoda Lust said:

 

The top part of the arm is rotated to the other side. I need the clamp facing the other way of the arm itself.

The one I posted also does that. The arm goes into the clamping bit through a cylindrical piece of metal.

[Bombastinator]

There are modular things where you just buy the clamps and cut (I think 1/2” or 3/4” OD pipe?) and your own weights.  So the fittings some galvanized or black plumbing pipe, some dumbbell weights or a milk jug full of sand & some duct tape if you’re feeling really cheap, and a pipe cutter (which are really easy to use if not wildly fast) the fittings will cost more than all the rest put together.  I don’t remember how much.  May still be too DIY.  I don’t know.  It won’t get into the single digit costs the way a converted econolamp  would, but the result is if anything stronger than most boom systems.  Also weighs a ton.  Steel galvanized or black iron pipe is heavy.

 

One more cheapass thought is if this is for streaming from a desktop since nothing ever moves you could just hang the mic from the ceiling by its cord.  The mic won’t care that it is upside down.  Then it’s just attachment to the ceiling and having a cord long enough you have to worry about.  Also popcorn ceilings are annoying to repair if you’ve got one.  Ceiling material will matter.

Edited December 17, 2021 by Bombastinator

[IkeaGnome]

17 hours ago, Pohoda Lust said:

 

The top part of the arm is rotated to the other side. I need the clamp facing the other way of the arm itself.

This is the one I use. The arm can rotate 360 degrees in the clamp. Most of them will do it. The one that came with my Audio Technica 2020+ also rotated 360 degrees in the desk clamp.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B082W4B7SX/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

[The Flying Sloth]

The stand you have pictured looks exaclly like the Ebay 'sort by cheapest' mic stand I have on my desk. In a pinch Ikea has lamps on a scissor arm that are much sturdier that I've seen used as mic stands before. 

SHort answer is that almost any scissor arm can do that.