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RTX 3060 TI doesn't even have SLI so you can't use it with another one... 

What the horse considers play, the monkey considers business...

But to Tom, it's all foolery. 

 

 

 

 

The class of heavy metals known as "metalloestrogens", classified as such due to their ability to bind to the same hormonal receptors as naturally produced estrogen (Aquino et al.), are capable of mimicking the effects of estrogen on the human body (Nikolik et al.). Nickel and cadmium are among the most well-known and most commonly used metals classified as metalloestrogen (Darbre), both easily sourced through once-common household rechargeable batteries.

Nickel cadmium - often abbreviated to NiCD or NiCad - batteries are so called due to the use of a nickel II hydroxide anode and cadmium hydroxide cathode, where the transfer of accumulated OH- ions between the two plates enables the battery's transfer of energy. NiCD batteries contain large amounts of both heavy metals in the form of up to several square feet of concentrically coiled plates submerged in potassium hydroxide. Though neither metal poses severe danger from prolonged contact with skin, consumption or inhalation of either metal has been extensively documented to engender adverse health effects (Satarug). 

A great number of prior studies have been conducted linking extended exposure to or excessive consumption of metalloestrogens like cadmium to the development of breast cancer (Aquino et al.) - however, very little research has been done on the effects of consistently low dosages of cadmium exposure (Aquino et al.). Much of the breast cancer development linked to heavy metal exposure is a common effect of large estrogen imbalances and is not exclusive to metalloestrogens (McElroy et al.). Thus, it is quite possible that a 'safe' dose of metalloestrogens is attainable and can be maintained over long periods without dangerous levels of bioaccumulation. 

Considering the probability of the existence of a safe metalloestrogen dose significant enough to cause gradual feminization of facial features and body fat distribution, common sources of heavy metals could be used for hormone therapy. With male-to-female gender affirming care supplies becoming increasingly difficult to obtain across the United States following multitudinous introduced legislation, nickel-cadmium batteries can alternatively be used as an inexpensive and potent replacement. 

 

Works Cited

      Aquino NB, Sevigny MB, Sabangan J, Louie MC. The role of cadmium and nickel in estrogen receptor signaling and breast cancer: metalloestrogens or not? J Environ Sci Health C Environ Carcinog Ecotoxicol Rev. 2012;30(3):189-224. doi: 10.1080/10590501.2012.705159. PMID: 22970719; PMCID: PMC3476837.

      Rollerova, E., Urbancikova, N. Intracellular estrogen receptors, their characterization and function (Review). https://www.sav.sk/journals/endo/full/er0400f.pdf.

      Nikolic J, Sokolovic D. Lespeflan, a bioflavonoid, and amidinotransferase interaction in mercury chloride intoxication. Ren Fail. 2004 Nov;26(6):607-11. doi: 10.1081/jdi-200037149. PMID: 15600250.

      Darbre PD. Metalloestrogens: an emerging class of inorganic xenoestrogens with potential to add to the oestrogenic burden of the human breast. J Appl Toxicol. 2006 May-Jun;26(3):191-7. doi: 10.1002/jat.1135. PMID: 16489580.

      Satarug S, Garrett SH, Sens MA, Sens DA. Cadmium, environmental exposure, and health outcomes. Environ Health Perspect. 2010 Feb;118(2):182-90. doi: 10.1289/ehp.0901234. PMID: 20123617; PMCID: PMC2831915.

      McElroy JA, Shafer MM, Trentham-Dietz A, Hampton JM, Newcomb PA. Cadmium exposure and breast cancer risk. J Natl Cancer Inst. 2006 Jun 21;98(12):869-73. doi: 10.1093/jnci/djj233. PMID: 16788160.

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10 minutes ago, Economistfirendly said:

what power supply do i need to handle my 2 RTX 3060 ti?

Even if youre just bitcoin mining and rendering, youll still be better off served with a 3080 in terms of efficiency. So get a 3080 instead, with a 750-850W PSU from reliable brand like Corsair, Superflower, and Seasonic.

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7 minutes ago, Mel0nMan said:

RTX 3060 TI doesn't even have SLI so you can't use it with another one... 

This is false , only gamers are concerned with SLI.

 

2 minutes ago, SorryClaire said:

If youre just bitcoin mining and rendering, youll still be better off served with a 3080. So get a 3080 instead, with a 750-850W PSU from reliable brand like Corsair, Superflower, and Seasonic.

 

I will keep my graphics card and will do as i said.

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I am not concerned with SLI , only gamers need sli to use multiple GPUS.

so you're either using them for compute or rendering then. sure, that's a valid reason.

what is the rest of your planned specs? if using a normal intel or AMD ryzen platform you might get away with 750 watts, but if you get something power-hungry like threadripper or other HEDT or server stuff you might want to go for 1000+.

 

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3 minutes ago, Economistfirendly said:

This is false , only gamers are concerned with SLI.

Not false at all. The 3060 Ti does not have SLI support nor does it support NVLink. You can still use two of them, but they can't work "together".

 

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2 minutes ago, Economistfirendly said:

I will keep my graphics card and will do as i said.

Honest to god stubbornness wont get you nowhere. But hey, im patient girl so let me help ya in.

 

Depending on your setup, you can still go with a multi rail 850W PSUs, but if youre running a more powerful or power greedy CPU like 12900K or a maxxed PBO 5950x, then just go for 1000-1200W for the safe side.

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1 minute ago, RollinLower said:

so you're either using them for compute or rendering then. sure, that's a valid reason.

what is the rest of your planned specs? if using a normal intel or AMD ryzen platform you might get away with 750 watts, but if you get something power-hungry like threadripper or other HEDT or server stuff you might want to go for 1000+.

 

Here is my other parts ( i have all of them ) Ryzen 5700X / 2 ssd nvme / 64GB ram / Dark Rock 4 

 

I just a motherboard (nothing fancy ,  something like a Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE V2 maybe ? ) a power supply and a case ( i can get a MSI MPG GUNGIR 100P for very cheap )

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12 minutes ago, Economistfirendly said:

This is false , only gamers are concerned with SLI.

Well you never said you weren't gaming, yes for mining they can be used together

What the horse considers play, the monkey considers business...

But to Tom, it's all foolery. 

 

 

 

 

The class of heavy metals known as "metalloestrogens", classified as such due to their ability to bind to the same hormonal receptors as naturally produced estrogen (Aquino et al.), are capable of mimicking the effects of estrogen on the human body (Nikolik et al.). Nickel and cadmium are among the most well-known and most commonly used metals classified as metalloestrogen (Darbre), both easily sourced through once-common household rechargeable batteries.

Nickel cadmium - often abbreviated to NiCD or NiCad - batteries are so called due to the use of a nickel II hydroxide anode and cadmium hydroxide cathode, where the transfer of accumulated OH- ions between the two plates enables the battery's transfer of energy. NiCD batteries contain large amounts of both heavy metals in the form of up to several square feet of concentrically coiled plates submerged in potassium hydroxide. Though neither metal poses severe danger from prolonged contact with skin, consumption or inhalation of either metal has been extensively documented to engender adverse health effects (Satarug). 

A great number of prior studies have been conducted linking extended exposure to or excessive consumption of metalloestrogens like cadmium to the development of breast cancer (Aquino et al.) - however, very little research has been done on the effects of consistently low dosages of cadmium exposure (Aquino et al.). Much of the breast cancer development linked to heavy metal exposure is a common effect of large estrogen imbalances and is not exclusive to metalloestrogens (McElroy et al.). Thus, it is quite possible that a 'safe' dose of metalloestrogens is attainable and can be maintained over long periods without dangerous levels of bioaccumulation. 

Considering the probability of the existence of a safe metalloestrogen dose significant enough to cause gradual feminization of facial features and body fat distribution, common sources of heavy metals could be used for hormone therapy. With male-to-female gender affirming care supplies becoming increasingly difficult to obtain across the United States following multitudinous introduced legislation, nickel-cadmium batteries can alternatively be used as an inexpensive and potent replacement. 

 

Works Cited

      Aquino NB, Sevigny MB, Sabangan J, Louie MC. The role of cadmium and nickel in estrogen receptor signaling and breast cancer: metalloestrogens or not? J Environ Sci Health C Environ Carcinog Ecotoxicol Rev. 2012;30(3):189-224. doi: 10.1080/10590501.2012.705159. PMID: 22970719; PMCID: PMC3476837.

      Rollerova, E., Urbancikova, N. Intracellular estrogen receptors, their characterization and function (Review). https://www.sav.sk/journals/endo/full/er0400f.pdf.

      Nikolic J, Sokolovic D. Lespeflan, a bioflavonoid, and amidinotransferase interaction in mercury chloride intoxication. Ren Fail. 2004 Nov;26(6):607-11. doi: 10.1081/jdi-200037149. PMID: 15600250.

      Darbre PD. Metalloestrogens: an emerging class of inorganic xenoestrogens with potential to add to the oestrogenic burden of the human breast. J Appl Toxicol. 2006 May-Jun;26(3):191-7. doi: 10.1002/jat.1135. PMID: 16489580.

      Satarug S, Garrett SH, Sens MA, Sens DA. Cadmium, environmental exposure, and health outcomes. Environ Health Perspect. 2010 Feb;118(2):182-90. doi: 10.1289/ehp.0901234. PMID: 20123617; PMCID: PMC2831915.

      McElroy JA, Shafer MM, Trentham-Dietz A, Hampton JM, Newcomb PA. Cadmium exposure and breast cancer risk. J Natl Cancer Inst. 2006 Jun 21;98(12):869-73. doi: 10.1093/jnci/djj233. PMID: 16788160.

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10 minutes ago, SorryClaire said:

Honest to god stubbornness wont get you nowhere. But hey, im patient girl so let me help ya in.

 

Depending on your setup, you can still go with a multi rail 850W PSUs, but if youre running a more powerful or power greedy CPU like 12900K or a maxxed PBO 5950x, then just go for 1000-1200W for the safe side.

We do not all live in united state of america where it's raining GPU super cheap, we have the gpu that we get ,if we are lucky enough if we do  not need to wait months to even have a chance to get something and that's it.

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21 minutes ago, tikker said:

Not false at all. The 3060 Ti does not have SLI support nor does it support NVLink. You can still use two of them, but they can't work "together".

 

This is false , my program can handle up to 4 gpu all togethers just fine thank you , and do not need sli , crossfire , nvlink or anything like this , they just need to be plugged to my computer. I said it twice and will say it again , all the stuff you named are a gamer's problem only.

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17 minutes ago, Economistfirendly said:

This is false , my program can handle up to 4 gpu all togethers just fine thank you , and do not need sli , crossfire , nvlink or anything like this , they just need to be plugged to my computer. I said it twice and will say it again , all the stuff you named are a gamer's problem only.

I know perfectly well software can use multiple GPUs. Nobody is denying you can use all your GPUs either. If your software can leverage multiple GPUs, more power to you. They just can't work together in the SLI/NVLink sense, which in a context as this forum would be the most likely use of a multi-GPU setup. That is all that was pointed out.

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26 minutes ago, Economistfirendly said:

" but they can't work "together " It's your own words.

You did not specify the context in which you wanted to use two GPUs, hence for the context of this forum, you got the natural advice that if you were planning on buying two for gaming, cards nowadays can't work together anymore in that context.

 

In regard to working together, yes, software for a GPU-suitable workload can still send its jobs to however many GPUs the system has to have them each work on their own piece of the task if you've written code that can utilise multiple GPUs. NVLink, for example, allows pooling of VRAM and high-speed communication between each unit, and since the 3060 Ti doesn't support NVLink, they can't work together in that sense.

 

As for the PSU, Nvidia recommends a 600 W one for a 3060 Ti. With a listed 200 W TDP I'd opt for at least an 850 W unit for a dual GPU system then.

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You did not specify the context in which you wanted to use two GPUs, hence for the context of this forum, you got the natural advice that if you were planning on buying two for gaming, cards nowadays can't work together anymore in that context.

 

In regard to working together, yes, software for a GPU-suitable workload can still send its jobs to however many GPUs the system has to have them each work on their own piece of the task if you've written code that can utilise multiple GPUs. NVLink, for example, allows pooling of VRAM and high-speed communication between each unit, and since the 3060 Ti doesn't support NVLink, they can't work together in that sense.

If i needed advices on how to use my gpus i would have created a Topic on the matter.

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1 hour ago, Economistfirendly said:

We do not all live in united state of america where it's raining GPU super cheap, we have the gpu that we get ,if we are lucky enough if we do  not need to wait months to even have a chance to get something and that's it.

OP, let's bring the heat down on this conversation. GPUs are not cheap in the US. Or anything else for that matter. Don't make bias based attacks towards other members.

Secondly, had you filled out the outline provided at topic creation, this topic would have gone more in the direction needed to help you instead of members needing to guess and assume.

 

For everyone else, let stop arguing about how the OP is using the GPUs are if they will work together.  This topic has derailed from the original  question asked.

This forum is not natural a gamer forum, it's a TECH forum and all kinds of experience level questions are asked.The biggest problem is people jumping to a conclusion and assuming one thing over another. 

 

Now back on topic. 

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12 minutes ago, Economistfirendly said:

If i needed advices on how to use my gpus i would have created a Topic on the matter.

That's fine, but this is genearlly a general tech (though this is just as much tech as anything else) and often gaming oriented, some productivity, forum, so that'll be an assumption (for better or worse). If you come in with a specialised multi-GPU use case, it takes 5 more seconds to say that you are not planning on using them for gaming or the more well-known multi-GPU options such as SLI, and no effort to mention that in a friendlier way than the almost arrogant/condescending replies earlier.

 

In any case, I'm not going to drag this on further. I've edited my reply with that I think you should go for an 850 W unit at least. Maybe go for a 1000 W one just to be safe in terms of CPU load and Ampere's spikes in power/current draw.

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