5.1 vs 7.1 sorrund sound

[patriciadiaz1919]

I keep seeing 5.1 moslty is moslty used for everthing and rare see 7.1

 

What are 7.1 audio are used for and are they worthless?

 

How do they work if there no 5.1 audio will all the speacker sound in the same time or only sound two of them in stereo mode and will the back stereos next to me will it still sound with out a 5.1 show?

 

What cables do I need as parents still use the old 90 rca and what the best do I need for lowless,hi rez,flac.

 

I am gonna get Denon S760H as good price and newest version.

[Electronics Wizardy]

4 minutes ago, patriciadiaz1919 said:

 

How do they work if there no 5.1 audio will all the speacker sound in the same time or only sound two of them in stereo mode and will the back stereos next to me will it still sound with out a 5.1 show?

There are modes on the reciever to change this. Normally you can play it as stero, 4 speaker stereo(so the side play the same as the fronts), dolby prologic, so it tries to convert stero to surroundsound, and other modes.

 

The mode you want depends on what your listening to and how you want it to sound.

 

5 minutes ago, patriciadiaz1919 said:

 

What cables do I need as parents still use the old 90 rca and what the best do I need for lowless,hi rez,flac.

 

What are you playing audio from? Normally HDMI audio is the best you can get these days, but most recievers have multiple inputs.

 

6 minutes ago, patriciadiaz1919 said:

keep seeing 5.1 moslty is moslty used for everthing and rare see 7.1

 

What are 7.1 audio are used for and are they worthless?

THe other thing to look at is how your room is layed out and where speakers would go. ALso look at things like 5.1.2, so you have height speakers instead of rear speakers, and it can often be better for atmos master tracks.

[InadequateComputerUser]

The difference is 2 speakers.

In this image each red square represents a speaker. You have see the 7.1 had 2 additional front facing.

 

[circeseye]

9 hours ago, InadequateComputerUser said:

The difference is 2 speakers.

In this image each red square represents a speaker. You have see the 7.1 had 2 additional front facing.

 

yesh what ever site made that needs to be fired.
5.1...7.1 or 5.1.2
 

[BuzzingBee]

5.1 is all you need for surround experience and it's more flexible for your seating location, which is why it's more popular choice but it doesn't make 7.1 useless. 

 

7.1 divides your surround speaker from 2 to 4 giving you better positional sound and filling ambient sound better across the room. Personally I really like 7.1 for gaming as it gives better seperation between side and back surround, and for media content it's less significant but it's still alright. I haven't tried 5.1.2 yet assuming 2 height speakers are at the middle ceiling, but I've seen more people prefer 5.1.2 over 7.1 for movies. If you're absolutely willing to install two ceiling speakers then do it.

[IPD]

having used both 7.1 and 5.1, i'm not sold on 7.1 as being worth it.  I'd sooner go 10.2 than 7.1--as i feel the 3-dimensional aspect would far outweigh 2 additional fills in the same plane.

 

*edit*

I guess they changed the nomenclature to "x.y.z" format.  So 10.2 is "5.2.5" now.  dumb.

[patriciadiaz1919]

On 11/14/2021 at 6:46 PM, InadequateComputerUser said:

The difference is 2 speakers.

In this image each red square represents a speaker. You have see the 7.1 had 2 additional front facing.

 

Is it I keep people say for music you need 7.1 to high ress or lowless flac to play better is it true vs getting 5.1 version.

[patriciadiaz1919]

On 11/15/2021 at 4:33 AM, BuzzingBee said:

5.1 is all you need for surround experience and it's more flexible for your seating location, which is why it's more popular choice but it doesn't make 7.1 useless. 

 

7.1 divides your surround speaker from 2 to 4 giving you better positional sound and filling ambient sound better across the room. Personally I really like 7.1 for gaming as it gives better seperation between side and back surround, and for media content it's less significant but it's still alright. I haven't tried 5.1.2 yet assuming 2 height speakers are at the middle ceiling, but I've seen more people prefer 5.1.2 over 7.1 for movies. If you're absolutely willing to install two ceiling speakers then do it.

If I get 5.1 get can I keep the it when I upgrade it to 7.1 like with Klipsch brand.

[BuzzingBee]

52 minutes ago, patriciadiaz1919 said:

If I get 5.1 get can I keep the it when I upgrade it to 7.1 like with Klipsch brand.

It's absolutely fine to get 7.1 AVR and pair it with 5.1 speakers, just make sure you set 5.1  speaker layout on settings. Then when you want to add extra two back surround (or height) speakers you simply buy two more speakers and connect to your existing AVR. 

[patriciadiaz1919]

30 minutes ago, BuzzingBee said:

It's absolutely fine to get 7.1 AVR and pair it with 5.1 speakers, just make sure you set 5.1  speaker layout on settings. Then when you want to add extra two back surround (or height) speakers you simply buy two more speakers and connect to your existing AVR. 

I have a 7.1 avr as not sure will the audio be effect it if  one was higher than other one as one may be 2 feet and other is 1 feet or less.

[circeseye]

9 hours ago, patriciadiaz1919 said:

I have a 7.1 avr as not sure will the audio be effect it if  one was higher than other one as one may be 2 feet and other is 1 feet or less.

theres manual distance/ position adjustments you can do for that. or if the avr has it. a lot have a built in speaker set up like Audyssey (denon), YPAO (yamaha), MCACC (poineer), AccuEQ (onkyo)....not sure what other brands have in the way of room calibration

[BuzzingBee]

10 hours ago, patriciadiaz1919 said:

I have a 7.1 avr as not sure will the audio be effect it if  one was higher than other one as one may be 2 feet and other is 1 feet or less.

Although there's guideline on how to place surround speakers, you don't have to follow it accurately. They're mostly filled with ambient sound so having one slightly mislocated speaker won't hurt your surround experience.

[tikker]

2 hours ago, BuzzingBee said:

Although there's guideline on how to place surround speakers, you don't have to follow it accurately. They're mostly filled with ambient sound so having one slightly mislocated speaker won't hurt your surround experience.

I will add that my experience improved significantly when I moved my surrounds in my 5.1.2 setup from being on the side slightly in front of the listening position (due to space constraints / no stands) to where they actually should be. It's much more immersive now.

On 11/16/2021 at 10:21 PM, IPD said:

*edit*

I guess they changed the nomenclature to "x.y.z" format.  So 10.2 is "5.2.5" now.  dumb.

Sort of a yes but no situation. 10.X means more front and surround channels. 5.X.Y means the usual 5.X channels plus Y Atmos channels. On the "larger" receivers (7.X and up) some of the channels can typically be reconfigured so it can either function as, for example, a 7.2 unit or a 5.2.2 one.

 

14 hours ago, patriciadiaz1919 said:

Is it I keep people say for music you need 7.1 to high ress or lowless flac to play better is it true vs getting 5.1 version.

No. Most music is stereo, meaning only two channels, so a 2.0 or 2.1 setup is all you need. If you hook up 7 speakers and play stereo music only the front left and right will play, while the other 5 of them will simply not produce any sound. You can switch the receiver to an upmixing mode or "all speaker stereo" mode though. For movies, so far 5.1.X has been thoroughly enjoyable to me.

[Psittac]

All I have to add is to reinforce the point others have made, it all comes down to the content you're consuming and whether it supports it or not.  Atmos is a system that adapts to any configuration but that's only going to be on newer movies.  I'm not sure if streaming services offer atmos streaming because while I have a 5.1 denon/klipsch home theater I consume 99% of my content on my computer with headphones.  But I would keep that in mind.  For music it's all 2.0 and 2.1 minus a few rare multi channel recordings but that never caught on and the chances of music you like being in that format are slim.