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Do you think putting thermal pads on the metal backplate of the TUF 3070 OC is worth it?

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I recently got myself a ASUS TUF 3070 OC and I am really enjoying the card. I am surprised how well the temps are and how well it OCed.
I noticed the backplate is made of metal, but it doesnt make any real contact with the card. I was thinking of maybe adding some pads on the area where the memory is mounted next to the die. Also where Power delivery is installed.
I know it wouldnt change my temps by 43296423 degrees, but I thought it might help with temps in general and hence its potential longevity.
Do you think I should try open it up and try measure the distance between the backplate and PCB and get some pads? Or just a stupid unnecessary adventure?

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If your temps are under control right now, lowering them won't improve the health of the card in a tangible way. A ram chip at 75 degrees will last as long as a ram chip at 70 degrees; that is to say, something else on the card will almost certainly give out long before these components (to say nothing of obsolescence)

 

But if you want to push a ram overclock, any small improvement helps so other benefits could make the project worth it.

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7 minutes ago, AlexandraYume said:

Or just a stupid unnecessary adventure?

this

 

risk >> reward

-sigh- feeling like I'm being too negative lately

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4 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

If your temps are under control right now, lowering them won't improve the health of the card in a tangible way. A ram chip at 75 degrees will last as long as a ram chip at 70 degrees; that is to say, something else on the card will almost certainly give out long before these components (to say nothing of obsolescence)

 

But if you want to push a ram overclock, any small improvement helps so other benefits could make the project worth it.

I am already running a 1GHz (+1000Mhz) OC on the memory fully stable and I am kinda afraid of going even harder. Temps have been really good so far. Core runs at 60-65°C on Furmark (unfortunately HWinfo doesnt give me any memory temps x.x)

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4 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

this

 

risk >> reward

Thats what is concerning me. Hence the question

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Just now, AlexandraYume said:

I am already running a 1GHz (+1000Mhz) OC on the memory fully stable and I am kinda afraid of going even harder. Temps have been really good so far. Core runs at 60-65°C on Furmark (unfortunately HWinfo doesnt give me any memory temps x.x)

Yeah sadly memory temp probes are not common. Though if the core is getting good temps like that, it's rare for the memory to be much worse.

 

That said, peace of mind is often worth a lot more than raw performance 😉

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1 minute ago, AlexandraYume said:

I am already running a 1GHz (+1000Mhz) OC on the memory fully stable and I am kinda afraid of going even harder.

for gaming, that's already a pretty good OC on VRAM

memory for 3070/3060ti is stable around +800 to 900-ish for gaming from my experiences with them

 

G6 don't suffer heat problems compared to G6x from what i know, at least i havent seen any issues with G6 cards yet while G6x cards are throttling under mining load, which puts the heaviest loads on VRAM that i know of

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Just now, Fasauceome said:

Yeah sadly memory temp probes are not common. Though if the core is getting good temps like that, it's rare for the memory to be much worse.

 

That said, peace of mind is often worth a lot more than raw performance 😉

True. I was just looking at what OC I can push with reasonable temps and power draw, while still having a result worth it

Core barely did anything, but that memory OC lifted up performance by an average 7-10% while only causing a slight lift up in power draw

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Just now, Moonzy said:

for gaming, that's already a pretty good OC on VRAM

memory for 3070/3060ti is stable around +800 to 900-ish for gaming from my experiences with them

 

G6 don't suffer heat problems compared to G6x from what i know, at least i havent seen any issues with G6 cards yet while G6x cards are throttling under mining load, which puts the heaviest loads on VRAM that i know of

Yeah from my experience, GDDR6 has rarely any temperature problems, unless you have the shittiest cooler on earth or literally nothing touching the memory (looking at you DELL with your OEM cards)

I like custom keyboards
Keyboard: IDOBAO ID80 V2 ISO White, 3203 lubed Glorious Pandas, Durock v2 stabs lubed and holee modded, Tai Hao Bright Miami PBT keycaps
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Tablet: iPad 8th gen 128GB + Apple Pen
My PC:
Corsair 5000D Airflow White
ASRock x570 Taichi
Ryzen 9 3900X stock
Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360
4x8GB Patriot Viper RGB White 3200Mhz CL16
ASUS TUF 3070 V2 OC LHR
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2x640GB WD Caviar Blue 7200rpm (manufactured Nov2008)
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20 minutes ago, Mel0nMan said:

Yeah, that could be worth it. I say go for it

I am just concerned if I can take of the backplate without destroying the warranty stickers (they are technically still legal here in Europe)

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55 minutes ago, AlexandraYume said:

have a pic of my PC :3

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Fan config???

Is aio the only intake and everything exhaust? Cause i dont think negative pressure is any good for a setup

 

57 minutes ago, AlexandraYume said:

Do you think I should try open it up and try measure the distance between the backplate and PCB and get some pads? Or just a stupid unnecessary adventure?

I wouldnt say its worth it unless you go shove a tec on it and cool it to subzero or something (and that will look very ugly if you give a crap about asthetics), if ram temps are good then just leave it alone

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The fan config is Pull on the radiator and all the other fans are exhaust, yes.
My CPU and GPU temps are actually the best in this configuration (CPU is 60°C in Prime95, GPU is 65°C in Furmark) and my dust filters are doing a great job too

I think I will leave my 3070 like it is, yeah

I like custom keyboards
Keyboard: IDOBAO ID80 V2 ISO White, 3203 lubed Glorious Pandas, Durock v2 stabs lubed and holee modded, Tai Hao Bright Miami PBT keycaps
Laptop: HP Spectre Pro x360 G2 (i5-6200U, 8GB DDR3, 256GB SATA M2)

Tablet: iPad 8th gen 128GB + Apple Pen
My PC:
Corsair 5000D Airflow White
ASRock x570 Taichi
Ryzen 9 3900X stock
Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360
4x8GB Patriot Viper RGB White 3200Mhz CL16
ASUS TUF 3070 V2 OC LHR
Intel 600p 1TB NVME (GAME DRIVE)
Silicon Power A80 1TB NVME (GAME DRIVE)
Sabrent Rocket Gen3 1TB NVME (OS DRIVE)
2x640GB WD Caviar Blue 7200rpm (manufactured Nov2008)
3x Arctic P12 White

3x Arctic P12 ARGB

4x LianLi Unifans 120
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4 hours ago, AlexandraYume said:

I am already running a 1GHz (+1000Mhz) OC on the memory fully stable and I am kinda afraid of going even harder. Temps have been really good so far. Core runs at 60-65°C on Furmark (unfortunately HWinfo doesnt give me any memory temps x.x)

Have you checked GPUZ? It may show your vram temps.

 

HWinfo only seems to show vram temps on my DDR6X GPUs but GPUZ shows it on my DDR6 cards as well.

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2 hours ago, jones177 said:

Have you checked GPUZ? It may show your vram temps.

 

HWinfo only seems to show vram temps on my DDR6X GPUs but GPUZ shows it on my DDR6 cards as well.

Thanks for the advice! I will check that tomorrow and respond.

I like custom keyboards
Keyboard: IDOBAO ID80 V2 ISO White, 3203 lubed Glorious Pandas, Durock v2 stabs lubed and holee modded, Tai Hao Bright Miami PBT keycaps
Laptop: HP Spectre Pro x360 G2 (i5-6200U, 8GB DDR3, 256GB SATA M2)

Tablet: iPad 8th gen 128GB + Apple Pen
My PC:
Corsair 5000D Airflow White
ASRock x570 Taichi
Ryzen 9 3900X stock
Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360
4x8GB Patriot Viper RGB White 3200Mhz CL16
ASUS TUF 3070 V2 OC LHR
Intel 600p 1TB NVME (GAME DRIVE)
Silicon Power A80 1TB NVME (GAME DRIVE)
Sabrent Rocket Gen3 1TB NVME (OS DRIVE)
2x640GB WD Caviar Blue 7200rpm (manufactured Nov2008)
3x Arctic P12 White

3x Arctic P12 ARGB

4x LianLi Unifans 120
BeQuiet! StraightPower11 850W 80+ Gold
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10 hours ago, AlexandraYume said:

Thanks for the advice! I will check that tomorrow and respond.

Update. No Memory Temps listed, even in GPU-Z
Guess the TUF 3070 doesnt have memory temp sensors

I like custom keyboards
Keyboard: IDOBAO ID80 V2 ISO White, 3203 lubed Glorious Pandas, Durock v2 stabs lubed and holee modded, Tai Hao Bright Miami PBT keycaps
Laptop: HP Spectre Pro x360 G2 (i5-6200U, 8GB DDR3, 256GB SATA M2)

Tablet: iPad 8th gen 128GB + Apple Pen
My PC:
Corsair 5000D Airflow White
ASRock x570 Taichi
Ryzen 9 3900X stock
Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360
4x8GB Patriot Viper RGB White 3200Mhz CL16
ASUS TUF 3070 V2 OC LHR
Intel 600p 1TB NVME (GAME DRIVE)
Silicon Power A80 1TB NVME (GAME DRIVE)
Sabrent Rocket Gen3 1TB NVME (OS DRIVE)
2x640GB WD Caviar Blue 7200rpm (manufactured Nov2008)
3x Arctic P12 White

3x Arctic P12 ARGB

4x LianLi Unifans 120
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  • 6 months later...

I’ve Done a lot of testing was able to under-Volted to .950V. And and make it go to 1980mhz and would bump on its own to 2mhz and stay there for awhile but go back down to 1980mhz.Temps as ode testing and recorded would be 64-67 air cooled pads thermal grizzly same with paste. 

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