Why my Old pc is better at gaming than my 11th Gen Laptop

[ShebuAli]

It is a very frustrating thing but when i bought a Laptop for my University years which costed 5 times more than my pc back at home. I was expecting a noticeable performance difference. But sadly i see none. Before i start complaining here are the specs 

Old Pc back at home.

Optiplex 745

Core2Quad Q6600

4gb DDR2 Ram

Amd HD 7350 OEM GPU

7200rpm Hard drive

Current Laptop

Dell Inspiron 15 3501

Core i3 1115G4

4gb DDR4 Ram

5400Rpm Hard Drive

 

Both devices are running latest version of Windows with all latest drivers.

 

I am a casual gamer, i will discuss two games for comparison

1.Assasins Creed Black flag ran similarly on both with low settings.

2.MGSV The phantom pain also has similar performance on both hardware on low settings but the laptop crashes on intense scenes which doesn't occur on pc.

I tried some other games on laptop like valorant which got stuck on loading screen forever.

With everything said, i have one question that needs answering. Does newer hardware with significant price difference, means better performance?

 

 

 

 

[Chronified]

Simple, because your desktop has a dedicated graphics card. 

As basic as a HD 7350 is, it'll still outpreform the integrated graphics on your newer laptop.

 

Also, someone stole 4GB of ram from your laptop, Inspiron 15 3501 comes with 8GB on all models iirc, you should seriously consider upgrading to 8GB.

 

Tbh, look into GeforceNow. Try out the free tier for 1hr at a time to see how it performs on your internet. 

It's cloud gamestreaming, imagine live sports and Netflix had an esports baby lol. It hosts the game in the cloud and streams it to your PC. I only have 8-12ms of lag, which is more than the frametimes+stutter you'd be dealing with on low-spec systems like those.

 

I'd much rather deal with a bit of added latency than min-settings <30fps lol

[whispous]

4GB of ram with a modern OS is also an extremely painful experience.

[Latvian Video]

7 minutes ago, whispous said:

4GB of ram with a modern OS is also an extremely painful experience.

I upgraded my old POS laptop a while ago, got a few more fps in games, at least in the ones which it could run

[ShebuAli]

27 minutes ago, Chronified said:

Simple, because your desktop has a dedicated graphics card. 

As basic as a HD 7350 is, it'll still outpreform the integrated graphics on your newer laptop.

 

Also, someone stole 4GB of ram from your laptop, Inspiron 15 3501 comes with 8GB on all models iirc, you should seriously consider upgrading to 8GB.

 

Tbh, look into GeforceNow. Try out the free tier for 1hr at a time to see how it performs on your internet. 

It's cloud gamestreaming, imagine live sports and Netflix had an esports baby lol. It hosts the game in the cloud and streams it to your PC. I only have 8-12ms of lag, which is more than the frametimes+stutter you'd be dealing with on low-spec systems like those.

 

I'd much rather deal with a bit of added latency than min-settings <30fps lol

Thank you. Looks like i will need to make a visit to the dell centre for the ram. Well... Looks like i had too much expectations from the integrated gpu .  

[Latvian Video]

50 minutes ago, Chronified said:

Simple, because your desktop has a dedicated graphics card. 

As basic as a HD 7350 is, it'll still outpreform the integrated graphics on your newer laptop.

 

Also, someone stole 4GB of ram from your laptop, Inspiron 15 3501 comes with 8GB on all models iirc, you should seriously consider upgrading to 8GB.

 

Tbh, look into GeforceNow. Try out the free tier for 1hr at a time to see how it performs on your internet. 

It's cloud gamestreaming, imagine live sports and Netflix had an esports baby lol. It hosts the game in the cloud and streams it to your PC. I only have 8-12ms of lag, which is more than the frametimes+stutter you'd be dealing with on low-spec systems like those.

 

I'd much rather deal with a bit of added latency than min-settings <30fps lol

the laptop should be a lot better than the 7350... even the graphics that can come in my 2013 laptop beat it

[Zenedge]

45 minutes ago, Chronified said:

Simple, because your desktop has a dedicated graphics card. 

As basic as a HD 7350 is, it'll still outpreform the integrated graphics on your newer laptop.

 

Also, someone stole 4GB of ram from your laptop, Inspiron 15 3501 comes with 8GB on all models iirc, you should seriously consider upgrading to 8GB.

 

Tbh, look into GeforceNow. Try out the free tier for 1hr at a time to see how it performs on your internet. 

It's cloud gamestreaming, imagine live sports and Netflix had an esports baby lol. It hosts the game in the cloud and streams it to your PC. I only have 8-12ms of lag, which is more than the frametimes+stutter you'd be dealing with on low-spec systems like those.

 

I'd much rather deal with a bit of added latency than min-settings <30fps lol

This could just be due to the asian region. 
I too bought this exact laptop just a week ago from the dell store. (I am from southeast asia) hahaha.

but it had the i3-1135g7, 512gb nvme ssd. upgrades, however it still was 4gb ram. this cost around $500 US. They probably really cheaped out on that part of the specs.  I have already upgraded the ram to 16gb tho. so it's all good now :3

 

to the op. yes this laptop is terrible for gaming. but esports games work well on it, so there's that at least. Probably upgrading the ram may stop more intensive games from crashing.

 

[Latvian Video]

18 minutes ago, ShebuAli said:

Thank you. Looks like i will need to make a visit to the dell centre for the ram. Well... Looks like i had too much expectations from the integrated gpu .  

The problem might be the ram, even my 2013 laptop has better integrated graphics than the 7350

[Latvian Video]

Just now, Zenedge said:

This could just be due to the asian region. 
I too bought this exact laptop just a week ago from the dell store. (I am from southeast asia) hahaha.

but it had the i3-1135g7, 512gb nvme ssd. upgrades, however it still was 4gb ram. this cost around $500 US. They probably really cheaped out on that part of the specs.  I have already upgraded the ram to 16gb tho. so it's all good now :3

 

to the op. yes this laptop is terrible for gaming. but esports games work well on it, so there's that at least. Probably upgrading the ram may stop more intensive games from crashing.

 

It is bad, but it shouldnt be that bad, on PassMark, the 7350 is worse than the top end integrated gpu on my 2013 laptop

[ShebuAli]

35 minutes ago, Latvian Video said:

the laptop should be a lot better than the 7350... even the graphics that can come in my 2013 laptop beat it

It should be but it's not... That is the problem for me.

[ShebuAli]

36 minutes ago, Zenedge said:

This could just be due to the asian region. 
I too bought this exact laptop just a week ago from the dell store. (I am from southeast asia) hahaha.

but it had the i3-1135g7, 512gb nvme ssd. upgrades, however it still was 4gb ram. this cost around $500 US. They probably really cheaped out on that part of the specs.  I have already upgraded the ram to 16gb tho. so it's all good now :3

 

to the op. yes this laptop is terrible for gaming. but esports games work well on it, so there's that at least. Probably upgrading the ram may stop more intensive games from crashing.

 

Yup..i have also gotten it from dell store( and south-east asia). But it is just not performing as expected you know. I hoped at least 2014 games to run fine on this one.

[ShebuAli]

38 minutes ago, Latvian Video said:

The problem might be the ram, even my 2013 laptop has better integrated graphics than the 7350

The ram is as advertised and has no faults.. but i am concerned whether upgrading it will be worth it or not.

[Kilrah]

It certainly will be better since 4GB of RAM is basically unusable today especially when some is taken away by the iGPU. And that laptop probably will be running with a single 4GB stick, so running in single channel which is again bad for performance expecially with an iGPU.

 

Now whether it'll make enough difference to satisfy what you want to do is anyone's guess.

[ShebuAli]

55 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

It certainly will be better since 4GB of RAM is basically unusable today especially when some is taken away by the iGPU. And that laptop probably will be running with a single 4GB stick, so running in single channel which is again bad for performance expecially with an iGPU.

 

Now whether it'll make enough difference to satisfy what you want to do is anyone's guess.

I think the bottom line for this laptop will be to play valorant at 40fps.. which i can't get past loading screen.

[Kilrah]

Must be possible since I see a guy who runs at 140fps on 11th gen UHD graphics, although that's on a desktop i5.

But he's got 16GB total and more than 8GB of RAM in use so for sure 4GB total isn't going to cut it. Should probably upgrade to 8 or even 12.

[ShebuAli]

53 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

Must be possible since I see a guy who runs at 140fps on 11th gen UHD graphics, although that's on a desktop i5.

But he's got 16GB total and more than 8GB of RAM in use so for sure 4GB total isn't going to cut it. Should probably upgrade to 8 or even 12.

Looks like it. Igpus definitely need more ram so i think i should upgrade it to 8gb or 12gb. With 4gb valorant is not even playable , it freezes at the tutorial screen.