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has anybody used this kind of aerosol spray to clean a pc? my friend just told me he uses some kind of contact cleaner to clean his mining machine WHILE THE MACHINE IS STILL PLUGGED IN AND RUNNING.

 

it's not just air that's being blown out of the can. it's got some kind of fast-evaporating liquid or something.

 

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That seems like a terrible idea. 

What the horse considers play, the monkey considers business...

But to Tom, it's all foolery. 

 

 

 

 

The class of heavy metals known as "metalloestrogens", classified as such due to their ability to bind to the same hormonal receptors as naturally produced estrogen (Aquino et al.), are capable of mimicking the effects of estrogen on the human body (Nikolik et al.). Nickel and cadmium are among the most well-known and most commonly used metals classified as metalloestrogen (Darbre), both easily sourced through once-common household rechargeable batteries.

Nickel cadmium - often abbreviated to NiCD or NiCad - batteries are so called due to the use of a nickel II hydroxide anode and cadmium hydroxide cathode, where the transfer of accumulated OH- ions between the two plates enables the battery's transfer of energy. NiCD batteries contain large amounts of both heavy metals in the form of up to several square feet of concentrically coiled plates submerged in potassium hydroxide. Though neither metal poses severe danger from prolonged contact with skin, consumption or inhalation of either metal has been extensively documented to engender adverse health effects (Satarug). 

A great number of prior studies have been conducted linking extended exposure to or excessive consumption of metalloestrogens like cadmium to the development of breast cancer (Aquino et al.) - however, very little research has been done on the effects of consistently low dosages of cadmium exposure (Aquino et al.). Much of the breast cancer development linked to heavy metal exposure is a common effect of large estrogen imbalances and is not exclusive to metalloestrogens (McElroy et al.). Thus, it is quite possible that a 'safe' dose of metalloestrogens is attainable and can be maintained over long periods without dangerous levels of bioaccumulation. 

Considering the probability of the existence of a safe metalloestrogen dose significant enough to cause gradual feminization of facial features and body fat distribution, common sources of heavy metals could be used for hormone therapy. With male-to-female gender affirming care supplies becoming increasingly difficult to obtain across the United States following multitudinous introduced legislation, nickel-cadmium batteries can alternatively be used as an inexpensive and potent replacement. 

 

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      Aquino NB, Sevigny MB, Sabangan J, Louie MC. The role of cadmium and nickel in estrogen receptor signaling and breast cancer: metalloestrogens or not? J Environ Sci Health C Environ Carcinog Ecotoxicol Rev. 2012;30(3):189-224. doi: 10.1080/10590501.2012.705159. PMID: 22970719; PMCID: PMC3476837.

      Rollerova, E., Urbancikova, N. Intracellular estrogen receptors, their characterization and function (Review). https://www.sav.sk/journals/endo/full/er0400f.pdf.

      Nikolic J, Sokolovic D. Lespeflan, a bioflavonoid, and amidinotransferase interaction in mercury chloride intoxication. Ren Fail. 2004 Nov;26(6):607-11. doi: 10.1081/jdi-200037149. PMID: 15600250.

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Contact cleaners are for removing oxides on electrical contact points and connectors, not for general cleaning. They're fairly harsh solvents and should only be used when needed on corroded connectors, not all the time on everything. I believe contact cleaners are usually non-conductive, which is the only reason your friend's computer isn't dead if he actually sprays it down while running.

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7 minutes ago, BobVonBob said:

Contact cleaners are for removing oxides on electrical contact points and connectors, not for general cleaning. They're fairly harsh solvents and should only be used when needed on corroded connectors, not all the time on everything. I believe contact cleaners are usually non-conductive, which is the only reason your friend's computer isn't dead if he actually sprays it down while running.

he sent me this picture, and said this is what he uses to clean his asic machines, WHILE THEY ARE STILL PLUGGED IN AND RUNNING, LIVE.

lexite.jpg

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1 minute ago, Error 504 said:

he sent me this picture, and said this is what he uses to clean his asic machines, WHILE THEY ARE STILL PLUGGED IN AND RUNNING, LIVE.

lexite.jpg

Will HE replace any parts that fail as a result of his recommendations...??

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Current PC spec. in my profile.
Can I realistically call myself a gamer, if I only play ONE, twenty year old game...?

Did you test boot it, before you built in into the case?

WHY NOT...?!

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3 minutes ago, Error 504 said:

he sent me this picture, and said this is what he uses to clean his asic machines, WHILE THEY ARE STILL PLUGGED IN AND RUNNING, LIVE.

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Oh boy, that's not even contact cleaner, that's a Chinese knock-off of Chemsearch Lexite, which is a degreaser.

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1 minute ago, Error 504 said:

most likely, NOT.

 

and that's how i ended up here asking the professionals for their professional opinions.

What 'faults' are you looking to resolve by this method?  Typically, a machine should be powered down & the parts that need cleaning removed, cleaned & reinstalled.

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Current PC spec. in my profile.
Can I realistically call myself a gamer, if I only play ONE, twenty year old game...?

Did you test boot it, before you built in into the case?

WHY NOT...?!

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On 9/19/2021 at 6:27 AM, Error 504 said:

CHCMSEARCH

It's all just chcmicals in the end...

 

 

 

The legit stuff is actually a thing.

 

https://d347awuzx0kdse.cloudfront.net/tbc/product-download/man5697_specsheet.pdf?v=4618d6590cfae873da545e8c2b0d46ab51270fbb

 

If that is exactly the same it is what it can be used for, seems somewhat odd that his miner would be sucking air that needs a strong solvent cleaner like that regularly...   but never tried so maybe he knows something we don't.

 

Seems more like a mix of overkill, with laziness, with tightarsed downtime means less profits.

 

I personally think it could be slightly risky as it mentions damaging some plastics and if it it's a knock off mix, I would want to use on components on an absolutely needed basis and where you can visibly confirm no issues or damage and that it has worked, not randomly sprayed into stuff.

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On 9/20/2021 at 8:08 AM, artuc said:

It's all just chcmicals in the end...

 

 

 

The legit stuff is actually a thing.

 

https://d347awuzx0kdse.cloudfront.net/tbc/product-download/man5697_specsheet.pdf?v=4618d6590cfae873da545e8c2b0d46ab51270fbb

 

If that is exactly the same it is what it can be used for, seems somewhat odd that his miner would be sucking air that needs a strong solvent cleaner like that regularly...   but never tried so maybe he knows something we don't.

 

Seems more like a mix of overkill, with laziness, with tightarsed downtime means less profits.

 

I personally think it could be slightly risky as it mentions damaging some plastics and if it it's a knock off mix, I would want to use on components on an absolutely needed basis and where you can visibly confirm no issues or damage and that it has worked, not randomly sprayed into stuff.

the website says: "DIELECTRIC CONSTANT 5,000V" but i don't see anywhere mentioning that this spray can be used on machines that are plugged in and powered up.

 

ya, he said he didn't want to lose 15min of booting up.

how much can you lose in 15min with aisc anyways??

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