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EVGA 3080 FTW3 ULTRA low fps

Ekkin0x

Hi ! 

 

I need some Linus Sex Tips here.

 

First and foremost, sorry for my terrible English.

 

I just bought the EVGA 3080 FTW3 ULTRA (LHR of course), I did a clean install of Windows 10, installed the drivers and stuff. All good no problem, but then, I launched Battlefield V (ULTRA 1080p with RTX at first) and had something like less than 40 fps with huge freezes. I then removed RTX and had the same issue, less than 60 fps with huge freezes and drops. Then, I tried it on GTA V Ultra, same problem, 40 fps where I should have more than that ? 

 

I have tried the card on my brother's computer, but the drivers were not working (not a compatible windows version ?). We checked and it was a compatible one. With that, all the USB's began to act weirdly (mouse not working, keyboard disconnecting).

 

The backplate is quite hot at idle and so does the GDDR6 (72°C). But the card isn't that hot (60°C idle).

 

What's weird is that 3DMARK does work and I have a pretty decent score (I think ?). Same with other bench, but not in game ? 

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Could you help me ? 

 

Thank you very much,

 

Florian.

 

 

R7 2700X

16 GO Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHZ

EVGA 3080 FTW3 ULTRA LHR

Asus TUF B450-PLUS GAMING

Seasonic 750W gold

 

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what resolution are you playing on? 

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Just now, adarw said:

what resolution are you playing on? 

1080p I tried 1440p on my brother's monitor too.

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Check from nvidia control panels 3D settings if you have hard cap on fps by some reason

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1 minute ago, Curioisman said:

Check from nvidia control panels 3D settings if you have hard cap on fps by some reason

Already followed a "guide", removed vertical sync too.

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14 minutes ago, Curioisman said:

Try to uninstall all nvidia drivers, and geforce experience if you have one and download only this NVIDIA DRIVERS GeForce Game Ready Driver WHQL which is only the driver for your 3080 card

Just did it, same as before, +- 70 fps with drops at 50-40 

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2 minutes ago, Ekkin0x said:

Just did it, same as before, +- 70 fps with drops at 50-40 

Try the same thing but instead whit this driver NVIDIA DRIVERS GeForce Game Ready Driver WHQL

 

Just to rule out any driver problems this is a couple months older, also what kinda rig do you have, memory and cpu mostly?

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1 minute ago, Curioisman said:

Try the same thing but instead whit this driver NVIDIA DRIVERS GeForce Game Ready Driver WHQL

 

Just to rule out any driver problems this is a couple months older, also what kinda rig do you have, memory and cpu mostly?

Ok I'll try it, I have

R7 2700X

-16 GO Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHZ

-EVGA 3080 FTW3 ULTRA LHR

-Asus TUF B450-PLUS GAMING

-Seasonic 750W gold

 

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2 minutes ago, Ekkin0x said:

Ok I'll try it, I have

R7 2700X

-16 GO Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHZ

-EVGA 3080 FTW3 ULTRA LHR

-Asus TUF B450-PLUS GAMING

-Seasonic 750W gold

 

Also just to make sure your gpu is on the first PCIE slot right?

 

After you have done whit the driver testing and it doesn't work, please download msi afterburner just to check if your gpu and even cpu is clocking properly while in a game

Turn on OSD monitoring in it and choose to display CPU and GPU usage and clocks of both to display and come back whit the results. Also if you could go to device manager in windows and head to system devices and check if you see "High precision event timer" just for future referance

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39 minutes ago, Curioisman said:

Also just to make sure your gpu is on the first PCIE slot right?

 

After you have done whit the driver testing and it doesn't work, please download msi afterburner just to check if your gpu and even cpu is clocking properly while in a game

Turn on OSD monitoring in it and choose to display CPU and GPU usage and clocks of both to display and come back whit the results. Also if you could go to device manager in windows and head to system devices and check if you see "High precision event timer" just for future referance

Yeah so, it's in the first slot

 

Here's a cool bug that I have MSIAfterburner_pmKDtmwKn6.png.3d7d6e375e3eb1817b2ed24c5cc011e3.png

Memory at 9501 MHz ? 

 

And here's a screnshot in game, now I'm at 80-100 fps with the old drivers BFV.thumb.png.02b640e891b5f4397800dbca918370a4.png

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Just now, Ekkin0x said:

Yeah so, it's in the first slot

 

Here's a cool bug that I have MSIAfterburner_pmKDtmwKn6.png.3d7d6e375e3eb1817b2ed24c5cc011e3.png

Memory at 9501 MHz ? 

 

And here's a screnshot in game, now I'm at 80-100 fps with the old drivers BFV.thumb.png.02b640e891b5f4397800dbca918370a4.png

Alright I have a theory, that might be the case here, go into your bios and change your pcie slot that is occupied with your 3080 to the max gen, I think it's gen 3 for your motherboard and restart and check again

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1 hour ago, Curioisman said:

Alright I have a theory, that might be the case here, go into your bios and change your pcie slot that is occupied with your 3080 to the max gen, I think it's gen 3 for your motherboard and restart and check again

Hey ! Sorry for the long ass wait. I updated my bios, changed it to gen 3 and had no improvement. My brother think that it's the CPU because, even in low, I have 20 more fps than in ultra. 

 

I'll test my card on a friend computer saturday after work.

 

If you think at any other fix, tell me, otherwise, I'll come back with the results Saturday ! 

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31 minutes ago, Ekkin0x said:

Hey ! Sorry for the long ass wait. I updated my bios, changed it to gen 3 and had no improvement. My brother think that it's the CPU because, even in low, I have 20 more fps than in ultra. 

 

I'll test my card on a friend computer saturday after work.

 

If you think at any other fix, tell me, otherwise, I'll come back with the results Saturday ! 

it shouldn't be cpu, the bottleneck is 0.52% on 1080p between rtx 3080 and r7 2700x, but for sure try it on other pc aswell, currently only what I can think is set windows power settings to max perfomance, it might even have a manufacturing fault, be in contact whit EVGA if it doesnt work properly on other pc

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Just now, Curioisman said:

it shouldn't be cpu, the bottleneck is 0.52% on 1080p between rtx 3080 and r7 2700x, but for sure try it on other pc aswell, currently only what I can think is set windows power settings to max perfomance, it might even have a manufacturing fault, be in contact whit EVGA if it doesnt work properly on other pc

I tried setting it to Max Perf, had no impact. And yeah, I searched for the bottleneck before buying the card, was 0.52 that's why I bought it but if it's the CPU, I'll have to change it ^^" 

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29 minutes ago, Ekkin0x said:

I tried setting it to Max Perf, had no impact. And yeah, I searched for the bottleneck before buying the card, was 0.52 that's why I bought it but if it's the CPU, I'll have to change it ^^" 

Apparently in battlefield 5 with your rig combination 80-100 fps is standard whit high settings and ray tracing on at 1440p and in 1080p its like 120fps, meeaby slightly more. Try some different game that is GPU intensive to find if it works as intended.

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6 minutes ago, Curioisman said:

Apparently in battlefield 5 with your rig combination 80-100 fps is standard whit high settings and ray tracing on at 1440p and in 1080p its like 120fps, meeaby slightly more. Try some different game that is GPU intensive to find if it works as intended.

I have the same issue with GTA V, 

I have 40 fps where he has 70+ in 1440P.  

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7 minutes ago, Ekkin0x said:

I have the same issue with GTA V, 

I have 40 fps where he has 70+ in 1440P.  

Seems weird, did you try to turning HPET on or off, if it is on then disable it and if its off then enable it

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Just throwing in that playing at 1080p your going to be cpu bottlenecked, but even with that 40 is way too low.

(Ironically you might get more fps by upgrading to 1440p)

I wonder if you have all 3 8pins plugged in, (and separate wires for each slot, no bunny ears pref)

 

And it's not thermal throttling is it? "60c on idle" is high. just with non-game apps open now my own 3080 ftw3 ultra is idle at 26c.

If it hits 90c it will thermal throttle and dramatically drop frames

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On 9/15/2021 at 9:16 PM, Curioisman said:

Apparently in battlefield 5 with your rig combination 80-100 fps is standard whit high settings and ray tracing on at 1440p and in 1080p its like 120fps, meeaby slightly more. Try some different game that is GPU intensive to find if it works as intended.

Ok I'm back, I touched NOTHING and I have between 60-80 fps ULTRA with RTX on and 120-150 without it. I repeat, I changed nothing for that to happen. That's kinda weird. 

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On 9/16/2021 at 9:24 AM, Daethz said:

Just throwing in that playing at 1080p your going to be cpu bottlenecked, but even with that 40 is way too low.

(Ironically you might get more fps by upgrading to 1440p)

I wonder if you have all 3 8pins plugged in, (and separate wires for each slot, no bunny ears pref)

 

And it's not thermal throttling is it? "60c on idle" is high. just with non-game apps open now my own 3080 ftw3 ultra is idle at 26c.

If it hits 90c it will thermal throttle and dramatically drop frames

cpu isnt a bottleneck in 1080p, in 1440p it is a bottleneck, and in 4k it is probably not a bottleneck.

 

4 hours ago, Ekkin0x said:

Ok I'm back, I touched NOTHING and I have between 60-80 fps ULTRA with RTX on and 120-150 without it. I repeat, I changed nothing for that to happen. That's kinda weird. 

That is trully a mystery, it might unironically be a manufacturing fault, EVGA has before had sodering fault whit 3090's which apparently was like 1% or 0.1% of 3090 production, there is a possibility of manufacturing fault aswell.

 

Also as @Daethz said do you have 3 seperate 8 pins connected to ur gpu and psu, or only 1 pcie cable whit splitters?

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3 minutes ago, Curioisman said:

cpu isnt a bottleneck in 1080p, in 1440p it is a bottleneck, and in 4k it is probably not a bottleneck.

 

That is trully a mystery, it might unironically be a manufacturing fault, EVGA has before had sodering fault whit 3090's which apparently was like 1% or 0.1% of 3090 production, there is a possibility of manufacturing fault aswell.

 

Also as @Daethz said do you have 3 seperate 8 pins connected to ur gpu and psu, or only 1 pcie cable whit splitters?

I currently have 2 out of 3 because I can't find one in retail store lmao. Same for Amazon, can't find a Seasonic cable ... 

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2700x is a bottleneck for the 3080, but there's something else going on, use cpu-z to make sure your ram is running at full speed

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/features/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ampere-cpu-scaling-benchmarks

 

 

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Just now, xg32 said:

2700x is a bottleneck for the 3080, but there's something else going on, use cpu-z to make sure your ram is running at full speed

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/features/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ampere-cpu-scaling-benchmarks

 

 

You know Ryzen, it's not. I had to downgrade it at 2733 MHZ for the pc to turn on. 

image.png.1c012fc2e1ec71e2f63d84c11e9df7a8.pngWeird for the bottleneck tho D: 

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9 minutes ago, Ekkin0x said:

I currently have 2 out of 3 because I can't find one in retail store lmao. Same for Amazon, can't find a Seasonic cable ... 

You could buy a splitter for 1 one of the cables, 1 8pin connected to psu, and then the splitter connect the other 8 pins and goes into psu once

5 minutes ago, xg32 said:

2700x is a bottleneck for the 3080, but there's something else going on, use cpu-z to make sure your ram is running at full speed

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/features/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ampere-cpu-scaling-benchmarks

 

 

Yes, 2700x is a bottleneck, but the bottleneck is not a hugely noticeable problem.

 

Also I agree check whit cpu-z if your ram is running at the normal speed, remember in cpu-z the frequency is halfed, so 2666mhz is 1333 

 

P.S why did u have to downgrade it? what kind of problem does it give at full 2933 speed?

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