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Thermaltake Toughpower iRGB PLUS 1200W vs Seasonic PRIME Gold 1300W

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58 minutes ago, DoctorNick said:

Ok get the thermaltake.. Didn't see the gold rating, even if rating isnt all. I expect the Seasonic to be a quite old model (is it?)

No...

 

Thermaltake iRGB is better than Seasonic except for RGB and warranty(not quality, just service and marketing) and CWT is a better OEM in this area.

Hello Guys,

 

I needed some advice regarding a PSU upgrade. I have the following config

 

CPU: i9 10850k ( with AIO Cooler)

GPU: Rtx 3090

RAM: 32 gb

2 ssd

1 hdd

 

and I was thinking of upgrading my motherboard to an Asus Maximus XII hero or Formula.

 

 

Currently, I have an option between 2 PSUs. Thermaltake Toughpower iRGB PLUS 1200W for around 130€ - 150€(used but almost new) and Seasonic PRIME Gold 1300W for €130 (about 1.5 years old). I looked at the PSU tier list and read that Season Prime had problems with RTX 3090 surges, but it said I should be fine with over 1200W, but that's still a bit concerning because future upgrades to my PC might cause shut-downs(or am I wrong?)

Anyway, I am really confused and would love some good advice. I have a superficial knowledge of PSUs and would love some expert's advice.

I know that seasonic has a really good reputation for PSU and I dont know if thermaltake is as good. But Thermaltake PSU comes with more features such as the monitoring software etc. RGB is not important to me. I would prefer a PSU offers better performance, security and longevity. 

Thermaltake review:

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/thermaltake-toughpower-irgb-plus-1200w-platinum-psu,5316.html

 

Seasonic(Couldn't find a decent review)

https://www.avadirect.com/PRIME-Gold-80-PLUS-Gold-1300W-Fully-Modular-ATX-Power-Supply/Product/11689805

 

What are other good PSUs around 1200-1300W that are cheap but also reliable.

 

Thanks

 

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24 minutes ago, IIIIIIIIII said:

If you have only those two options, Thermaltake is simply better.

Where(nation) are you and where do you buy your PSU?

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10 minutes ago, IIIIIIIIII said:

Where(nation) are you and where do you buy your PSU?

I am in Germany. I am currently looking on ebay auctions. They are relatively cheaper but not many options though. Apart from that other websites have also many options but naturally more expensive. 

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6 minutes ago, AbdullahTron said:

I am in Germany. I am currently looking on ebay auctions. They are relatively cheaper but not many options though. Apart from that other websites have also many options but naturally more expensive. 

Get Thermaltake iRGB😄

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1 hour ago, IIIIIIIIII said:

If you have only those two options, Thermaltake is simply better.

Better? Seasonic is the kings of PSU's. Also you dont get the stupid rgb light with app support as thermaltake has. But you get 12 year warranty vs 10 years for thermaltake. Both should be good. If you care about RGB go with thermaltake

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32 minutes ago, IIIIIIIIII said:

Get Thermaltake iRGB😄

Ok get the thermaltake.. Didn't see the gold rating, even if rating isnt all. I expect the Seasonic to be a quite old model (is it?)

CPU: Ryzen 5800X3D | Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 Elite V2 | RAM: G.Skill Aegis 2x16gb 3200 @3600mhz | PSU: EVGA SuperNova 750 G3 | Monitor: LG 27GL850-B , Samsung C27HG70 | 
GPU: Red Devil RX 7900XT | Sound: Odac + Fiio E09K | Case: Fractal Design R6 TG Blackout |Storage: MP510 960gb and 860 Evo 500gb | Cooling: CPU: Noctua NH-D15 with one fan

FS in Denmark/EU:

Asus Dual GTX 1060 3GB. Used maximum 4 months total. Looks like new. Card never opened. Give me a price. 

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58 minutes ago, DoctorNick said:

Ok get the thermaltake.. Didn't see the gold rating, even if rating isnt all. I expect the Seasonic to be a quite old model (is it?)

No...

 

Thermaltake iRGB is better than Seasonic except for RGB and warranty(not quality, just service and marketing) and CWT is a better OEM in this area.

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3 hours ago, IIIIIIIIII said:

No...

 

Thermaltake iRGB is better than Seasonic except for RGB and warranty(not quality, just service and marketing) and CWT is a better OEM in this area.

4 hours ago, DoctorNick said:

Ok get the thermaltake.. Didn't see the gold rating, even if rating isnt all. I expect the Seasonic to be a quite old model (is it?)

 

 

Thanks guys, I went with the Thermaltake iRGB PLUS 1200w. Because it seemed better and also was 80+ Platinum. 

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31 minutes ago, --SID-- said:

Yeah, 5 years ago. Since then they're overtaken by a lot of other OEMs.

have they ever had the crown? like the AX1200i is rather old at this point, and that can be argued to be better than everything Seasonic has ever sold. Offcourse, they are a small OEM, and they have managed to build a nice image, even if what they make isnt the best. 

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2 hours ago, GoldenLag said:

have they ever had the crown?

I think he was being sarcastic.

 

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12 hours ago, AbdullahTron said:

also was 80+ Platinum. 

thats the same as:

just because your car has cool rims does not make it fast.

QUOTE ME  FOR ANSWER.

 

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4 hours ago, SavageNeo said:

thats the same as:

just because your car has cool rims does not make it fast.

Ohh. I thought that being more efficient will be better in the long run. Or did I make a wrong decision?

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7 minutes ago, AbdullahTron said:

Ohh. I thought that being more efficient will be better in the long run. Or did I make a wrong decision?

Not wrong decision but efficiency alone means literally nothing. You can build an efficient PSU with cheaper components and a myriad of other problems, or actually 80+ Bronze PSU but way better one, if all you want to do is to build a good PSU, not necessarily a very efficient one.

In this case, in addition to a number of issues with Seasonic PSUs or Prime platform specifically (rather minor ones but still), there are also, as you've noticed, zero reviews on Prime GX 1.3kW or other wattages for that matter. There are some reviews on older Prime Ultra Gold series but they're somewhat lacking in detail and overall there are very few of them, almost looks like Seasonic didn't want to send out review samples for one reason or the other, not a good practice at all.

Tag or quote me so i see your reply

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2 minutes ago, Juular said:

Not wrong decision but efficiency alone means literally nothing. You can build an efficient PSU with cheaper components and a myriad of other problems, or actually 80+ Bronze PSU but way better one, if all you want to do is to build a good PSU, not necessarily a very efficient one.

In this case, in addition to a number of issues with Seasonic PSUs or Prime platform specifically (rather minor ones but still), there are also, as you've noticed, zero reviews on Prime GX 1.3kW or other wattages for that matter. There are some reviews on older Prime Ultra Gold series but they're somewhat lacking in detail and overall there are very few of them, almost looks like Seasonic didn't want to send out review samples for one reason or the other, not a good practice at all.

Yes. I understand. I thought that here the thermaltake was a better option and as a bonus was also a platinum PSU. Regarding the Season Prime gold 1300w. I couldn't find any reviews, only purchase website with superficial specs and stuff. That made me a bit more sceptical.

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2 minutes ago, AbdullahTron said:

Yes. I understand. I thought that here the thermaltake was a better option and as a bonus was also a platinum PSU.

Well, if you consider a 80+ Platinum badge on it a bonus, yeah, sure, but It is a better PSU, regardless of that. The question is whether the Thermaltake's support is as good as Seasonic's but purely comparing PSUs themselves, Seasonic is worse. And if Prime is also significantly more expensive i wouldn't pay that for better support or longer warranty either.

Tag or quote me so i see your reply

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