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Nah, it's not.. There is a 240mm radiator above that and a distro plate at the front of the case that has an air trap in it. The blue your seeing is the color of the liquid. 

 

 

So... not enough pressure. 

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Something a bit wrong with this. 😛

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During running Cinebench 23

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Bit of a score jump with it working right. 

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So, I recently put my system together and am running into an odd heat issue. 

 

System: i7-9700f, Z390-i board, NR200p, two 240mm thin radiators and custom loop

 

 

 

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This is the temps at idle, right before running the test. 

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The pump speed setup. 

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fan speed setup for 2 top fans and 2 bottom fans, through fan hub. 

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During the cinebench 23 run. It hit these temps immediately. 

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Note: only the cpu has spiked. 

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Within 30 seconds of finishing the run. 

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About 3 minutes after the run. 

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I am guessing I will need to pull the cpu block off, clean it up and rethermal paste it? 

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Proper mounting pressure? Is your loop as filled as it should be? 

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loop is definitely filled as should be... I am not sure on the pressure. I will check when I get a chance to pull it off. 

 

Thing I find odd is it can drop the cpu temperature almost immediately once the test ends. I would think 480mm of radiator should be enough for 1 cpu. 

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on the picture of your loops I can already see 2 kinks in the tubes that throttle the flow... I think 2 rads is a little overkill for only cooling 1 intel cpu... 

 

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Immediately rising temps would indicate poor contact with the cold plate. You should take the block off, and inspect the contact.

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The bottom one that loops around through the front of the case isn't actually kinked. The short one is, I have released the pressure off it and attempted to squeeze it back into shape. It will need a little bit of time to get any flow restriction out of it. 

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In the first picture is that thing on the left top the pump?
Are you absolutely sure its not pumping air?

Being so hihg up and such.

When i ask for more specs, don't expect me to know the answer!
I'm just helping YOU to help YOURSELF!
(The more info you give the easier it is for others to help you out!)

Not willing to capitulate to the ignorance of the masses!

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Nah, it's not.. There is a 240mm radiator above that and a distro plate at the front of the case that has an air trap in it. The blue your seeing is the color of the liquid. 

 

 

So... not enough pressure. 

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Something a bit wrong with this. 😛

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During running Cinebench 23

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Bit of a score jump with it working right. 

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1 minute ago, Youn said:

Nah, it's not.. There is a 240mm radiator above that and a distro plate at the front of the case that has an air trap in it. The blue your seeing is the color of the liquid. 

 

 

 

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Ah ok, just checking.

But that looks like insuffecient mounting pressure.

When i ask for more specs, don't expect me to know the answer!
I'm just helping YOU to help YOURSELF!
(The more info you give the easier it is for others to help you out!)

Not willing to capitulate to the ignorance of the masses!

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