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[Askew]

Res ipsa loquitur is not a valid argument to me: If you can't prove all those users are breaking the law you can't assume all of them are.

 

If it wasn't agains CoC to link I would, but go to TPB and show the top100 by seed, find me 1 entry on that list that is legit.

 

You can publicly see the number of people in the swarm of any torrent on the index sites.

[LifesCompanion]

Of course.

 

Everything on the pirate bay is free.

 

YARR.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBH4g_ua5es

[Bloodyvalley]

and its huge

That's what she said

[SMURG]

Precisely. I downloaded Windows 7 Professional x64? and Windows Vista Ultimate x64 from TPB, but I had legal licenses.

I do this all the time. Is it just me or does MS make it unnecessarily hard to find the .isos for their OSes?

[ohJey]

I do this all the time. Is it just me or does MS make it unnecessarily hard to find the .isos for their OSes?

They do, which is retarded.  Another reason people have to hate windows.  I have the ISOs on my NAS because I use them so frequently.

[Guest]

i really hate it when people assume all torrents are illegal. my isp even warned for downloading perfectly legal torrents

[s3ns3]

i really hate it when people assume all torrents are legal. my isp even warned for downloading perfectly legal torrents

sue them.privacy is down the toilet these days...

[Guest]

I do this all the time. Is it just me or does MS make it unnecessarily hard to find the .isos for their OSes?

Yeah, they even took down the Win7 isos on Digital River

[Misanthrope]

If it wasn't agains CoC to link I would, but go to TPB and show the top100 by seed, find me 1 entry on that list that is legit.

 

You can publicly see the number of people in the swarm of any torrent on the index sites.

 

I will do nothing of the sort until you look up res ipsa loquitur and the presumption of innocence. 

[Mooshi]

i really hate it when people assume all torrents are legal. my isp even warned for downloading perfectly legal torrents

 

Only a fool actually believes that..I don't think anyone on LTT is stupid enough to believe all torrents are legal. Members were simply specifying that not all torrents are terrible as it's implied.

[Askew]

I will do nothing of the sort until you look up res ipsa loquitur and the presumption of innocence. 

 

Res ips doesn't matter here, overwhelming evidence shows that the largest group is not legitimate, no inference is needed because there is no assumption involved in making a conclusion, the data is public as I posted above.

 

The megaswarms are in majority movies and TV programmes, even if aquiring a backup from an outside source of something you already own is legitimate (which with such media it generally is not) the inevitable sharing of that content by yourself that takes place when you are in a bittorrent swarm is absolutely not, hence the irrefutable illegitimacy of that traffic.

 

To be honest your assumptions of my ignorance are a tiny bit embarrassing because you stated above that "Each one of those steps are legal under fair use of software I've got." when in fact they are not, while in the same post attempting to educate me on how bittorrent operates. :lol:

[Misanthrope]

Res ips doesn't matter here

 

It does, so I honestly stopped reading right there, I just disagree and rather disengage from any further conversations with you on this subject, I value my time and won't go into circular arguments.

[Heisenbleurgh]

the piratebay is mostly known for games and movies and albums that you'd otherwise have to pay for but they've had several media content before where the content creators of it wanted to give it out for free. It's awesome they're starting to do so with games. Downloading already 

[Guest]

Only a fool actually believes that..I don't think anyone on LTT is stupid enough to believe all torrents are legal. Members were simply specifying that not all torrents are terrible as it's implied.

I meant to say illegal, sorry

[SMURG]

Res ips doesn't matter here, overwhelming evidence shows that the largest group is not legitimate, no inference is needed because there is no assumption involved in making a conclusion, the data is public as I posted above.

 

The megaswarms are in majority movies and TV programmes, even if aquiring a backup from an outside source of something you already own is legitimate (which with such media it generally is not) the inevitable sharing of that content by yourself that takes place when you are in a bittorrent swarm is absolutely not, hence the irrefutable illegitimacy of that traffic.

 

To be honest your assumptions of my ignorance are a tiny bit embarrassing because you stated above that "Each one of those steps are legal under fair use of software I've got." when in fact they are not, while in the same post attempting to educate me on how bittorrent operates. :lol:

On the subject of TV shows (which as you rightly point out make up a large portion of TPB's most popular listings) it's perfectly legal to buy a TV card and record TV shows so you don't have to buy the disks, so why is it then illegal to give those (legally produced) files to someone else so that they don't either? I mean sure, an argument can be made that if they don't subscribe to that cable provider or whatever they shouldn't have access to that content, but let's say they do, or let's say it's something like ITV or BBC or Channel 4 that everyone gets in the UK. It's still 'illegitimate' for them to download it from TPB?

Besides, you seem to be missing the point @Misanthrope is getting at. If 5 friends walk into a store and 4 of them stab people, does that make the 5th guy guilty? Ofc not. Not every torrent on TPB is illegal, ergo it cannot be assumed that someone downloading something listed on TPB is breaking the law. They probably are statistically, sure, but you can't prosecute when there's plausible deniability.

[Askew]

It does, so I honestly stopped reading right there, I just disagree and rather disengage from any further conversations with you on this subject, I value my time and won't go into circular arguments.

 

You made it circular, if you want to leave it that's fine by me I won't reply any more.

 

On the subject of TV shows (which as you rightly point out make up a large portion of TPB's most popular listings) it's perfectly legal to buy a TV card and record TV shows so you don't have to buy the disks, so why is it then illegal to give those (legally produced) files to someone else so that they don't either? I mean sure, an argument can be made that if they don't subscribe to that cable provider or whatever they shouldn't have access to that content, but let's say they do, or let's say it's something like ITV or BBC or Channel 4 that everyone gets in the UK. It's still 'illegitimate' for them to download it from TPB?

Besides, you seem to be missing the point @Misanthrope is getting at. If 5 friends walk into a store and 4 of them stab people, does that make the 5th guy guilty? Ofc not. Not every torrent on TPB is illegal, ergo it cannot be assumed that someone downloading something listed on TPB is breaking the law. They probably are statistically, sure, but you can't prosecute when there's plausible deniability.

 

I said the majority, not all. If I wanted to prosecute someone I'd begin by picking one whos address was found in a torrent that's illegal to share, prosecuting an individual and assessing their guilt is very different from categorizing a body of traffic because you don't need to be able to point fingers at individuals as you can see the data in it's entirety, from that viewpoint the individuals are still anonymous.

 

With regard to the TV shows, is it illegal to have a personal copy? Often no. It is illegal to distribute those copyrighted works, you are not authorized to distribute that's been my point all along, when you download a torrent you also are uploading/distributing/sharing the content and therein lies the contrast between bittorrent and say Usenet where you upload nothing.

 

I'm not saying it should be illegal, or that it's illegitimate in my mind, I'm just applying laws to deeds in order to classify it as illegitimate.

Don't get me wrong, I've been downloading illegal material since I was a kid, but I have no delusions about what's legit by law and what isn't.

 

Misanthrope is arguing as if I'd said that all torrents were illegitimate, that's never been my stance.

[StormtrooperStu]

I'm all over it.

[Dragonzeanse]

I have honestly never seen a single one of those indie games, out of all 101. There goes my hipster street cred.

[AfroLedgend]

101 ,small weird FREE mostly ignored videogames bundled in a torrent

posted by PcGamer website

 

 

also dont pirate over TOR , Torrents ignore Tor's security and reveals your real IP

Don't use tor full stop, it's not safe or really very beneficial.