Windows 11 has no reason to block 1st gen Threadripper but here it is......

[dazemc]

Kind of ridiculous that it doesn't even tell me why I don't meet requirements..... 

 

 

https://github.com/rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11/releases/tag/2.2.4.5

[SlashedM]

IIRC, its just what Microsoft knows works correctly with it right now, its just that they haven't really tested outside of those "compatible" processors. We are still months away from a official build, theres still a high chance that support will be added later, and even then, you can still install it anyways. 

[svmlegacy]

Originally Microsoft made the cut-off at 2nd gen Ryzen.

 

Yes. My Athlon 3000G is more capable of running Windows 11 than your Threadripper 1950X, according to Windows.

[Vishera]

Windows 11 is a joke.

If that's how they manage things i would rather say no,thank you.

[Izineth]

Actually there may be a legit reason for microsoft not supporting pre 8th gen intel cpus and pre zen 2 cpus from AMD.

TPM is NOT the only reason.

 

Windows 11 seems to use HCVI a hardware based security platform that was introduced with 8th gen intel and zen 2 cpus.  While browsing reddit I ran across a post about it you can find that post here: https://redd.it/o9m5t5

 

perhaps this is the reason or it may not be just a wild guess and as per the reddit thread i'm guessing the compatibility tool isn't checking specific CPU's but rather if it supports the feature or not.

 

Edit: I think 7th gen intels support this as well.

[MahtXL]

3 hours ago, Kawaii_Desu said:

Actually there may be a legit reason for microsoft not supporting pre 8th gen intel cpus and pre zen 2 cpus from AMD.

TPM is NOT the only reason.

 

Windows 11 seems to use HCVI a hardware based security platform that was introduced with 8th gen intel and zen 2 cpus.  While browsing reddit I ran across a post about it you can find that post here: https://redd.it/o9m5t5

 

perhaps this is the reason or it may not be just a wild guess and as per the reddit thread i'm guessing the compatibility tool isn't checking specific CPU's but rather if it supports the feature or not.

 

Edit: I think 7th gen intels support this as well.

Many myself included wont accept that as a good answer. Its my computer and if i want to run it on a less secure cpu that lacks a single feature i should be allowed to. Period.

[JoshuaScholar]

Is it true that HCVI is incompatible with running virtual machines?

If you have to have that, doesn't that mean you can't run any VMs because the OS is using that hardware?

[GregOlso]

We'll for what its worth it seems to run fine on my 1950 though a bit slower than Win 10 which I attributed to some debugging code most likely left running for these versions of preview. Will it support it in the end, hopefully, but if not officially, there will be a way to get it running im sure as its Windows. 

[GoodBytes]

On 6/29/2021 at 2:20 AM, MahtXL said:

Many myself included wont accept that as a good answer. Its my computer and if i want to run it on a less secure cpu that lacks a single feature i should be allowed to. Period.

Well it's my phone, and I am locked on the OS and limited on version support, despite capable. Consumers said: Sure a new 1k$+ phone each year or is all good with me... so here we are.

 

You might not like the answer, but at least it's a valid one unlike smartphone manufacturers, which have none.

 

Anyways, If you are a enthusist, then there is always a way to install Windows 11 on unsupported hardware. But as yet, Microsoft wants to avoid a Vista. In addition, a new driver model is supported, which is more reliable, but Intel and AMD isn't proving support for older chips either.

[GoodBytes]

On 6/28/2021 at 10:33 PM, svmlegacy said:

Originally Microsoft made the cut-off at 2nd gen Ryzen.

 

Yes. My Athlon 3000G is more capable of running Windows 11 than your Threadripper 1950X, according to Windows.

The issue is not that it won't run, the issue is that you'll go out and complain on how you system is less responsive under Win11 compared to Win10, and say how Win11 is bloated, when in reality it is your CPU that doesn't have the hardware acceleration for the security features.

 

I have a GeForce 680 GPU, I don't complain that DirectX 12 on it run like shit. While the GPU will attempt to emulate the calls that it gets via the driver, so the game will run, it will run like shit. The issue is with the GPU not supporting DX12, not DirectX itself being "bloated" or the game.

[svmlegacy]

4 hours ago, GoodBytes said:

The issue is not that it won't run, the issue is that you'll go out and complain on how you system is less responsive under Win11 compared to Win10, and say how Win11 is bloated, when in reality it is your CPU that doesn't have the hardware acceleration for the security features.

 

I have a GeForce 680 GPU, I don't complain that DirectX 12 on it run like shit. While the GPU will attempt to emulate the calls that it gets via the driver, so the game will run, it will run like shit. The issue is with the GPU not supporting DX12, not DirectX itself being "bloated" or the game.

The 3000G and the 1950X are both Zen based CPU's with the same feature set. Anything that runs on a 3000G will run better on a 1950X, all else being equal. This was my point in my comment. Microsoft arbitrarily pulled a "If it's xx years old it's not supported" out of their hat without considering anything else, prematurely. They've done right by re-evaluating the CPU support.