Proxmox Setup Suggestions

[sugarpeter21]

Hello I am planning to get a new Proxmox server Setup my budget is around £600-700

I have 3/4 Vms with active work load( SQL,Firewall,Load balancer)

Below is the config i have chosen happy to get some input and can consider Intel too :) 

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/ZR4WQD

 

Thank you 

[LogicalDrm]

-> Moved to Servers and NAS

[Electronics Wizardy]

How much resources do your vms need? How much ram per vm? Id probalby go 64gb of ram here if you can.

 

 

Get a video card or a i7 11700/10700 so you can see the installer. Some systems just won't post without a gpu  too.

 

What do you plan on using for storage? Id get a better ssd if you want to use that drive for vm storage and boot. 256gb is also kinda small for vms.

[sugarpeter21]

On 6/23/2021 at 5:08 PM, Electronics Wizardy said:

How much resources do your vms need? How much ram per vm? Id probalby go 64gb of ram here if you can.

 

 

Get a video card or a i7 11700/10700 so you can see the installer. Some systems just won't post without a gpu  too.

 

What do you plan on using for storage? Id get a better ssd if you want to use that drive for vm storage and boot. 256gb is also kinda small for vms.

I will be needing two VMs with fast response time.

I am thinking to use Intel DC SSD for now for storage and do you think the above 3700X setup will be nippy for Vms? ( even if there will be aronud 4/5 VMs running)

 

I am planning 10GB Ram each VM and 4 cores minimum for both workload Vms for now.

 

I currently run my home Network Lab on Lenovo Thinkstation C30 and it works fine.

There is another one of those available near me with below config do you think that will be enough with 

 

2 X Intel Xeon E5 2630 v2
32GB RAM
NVIDIA Quadro  NVS 310 and NVS 315

[Electronics Wizardy]

4 minutes ago, sugarpeter21 said:

I will be needing two VMs with fast response time.

What do you mean by fast response times? 

 

5 minutes ago, sugarpeter21 said:

I am thinking to use Intel DC SSD for now for storage and do you think the above 3700X setup will be nippy for Vms? ( even if there will be aronud 4/5 VMs running)

 

What ssds? Id get used ones, great value. Tons of them on ebay too.

 

A 3700x should be much faster than those xeons in most uses. Much faster single threaded performance is great to have.

 

I have a dual e5 2640 setup and about 20 vms running now and its still pretty zippy, you need to be more specific about performance requirements if you want a more exact answer.

 

6 minutes ago, sugarpeter21 said:

I currently run my home Network Lab on Lenovo Thinkstation C30 and it works fine.

There is another one of those available near me with below config do you think that will be enough with 

 

Those specs should be fine. Id get more ram though.

[sugarpeter21]

3 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

What do you mean by fast response times? 

 

>>Well more or less fast network response and quick SQL lookup is what i am after mostly.

 

3 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

 

What ssds? Id get used ones, great value. Tons of them on ebay too.

Thats the plan which ones you recommend ?

3 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

 

A 3700x should be much faster than those xeons in most uses. Much faster single threaded performance is great to have.

 

I have a dual e5 2640 setup and about 20 vms running now and its still pretty zippy, you need to be more specific about performance requirements if you want a more exact answer.

 

Those specs should be fine. Id get more ram though.

So you reommend 3700X over Lenovo ? 

I am considering 3700x due to hardwre being recent but its a pain to find a ECC compatible motherboard.

Also Pcie4.0 will be a good feature to use in future.

 

But Lenovo will be easy on pocket and i can invest in NAS or a storage solution too within this budget.

 

Only reason i am looking for a workstaion is due to noise issues with Rack based hardware.

 

What are you views?

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, sugarpeter21 said:

Thats the plan which ones you recommend ?

How much storage do you need? How much budget do you have for storage? Prices seem to not be great now, id probably just get a consumer grade drive now. Endurance shouldn't be a issue here.

 

Just now, sugarpeter21 said:

I am considering 3700x due to hardwre being recent but its a pain to find a ECC compatible motherboard.

I wouldn't worry about ecc for a home server here, it probably won't matter

 

1 minute ago, sugarpeter21 said:

So you reommend 3700X over Lenovo ? 

I would(or 10700/10400/11700/11400) The intel ones are probably better as there is a igpu

 

There gonna be faster and lower power than the older dual xeons

 

1 minute ago, sugarpeter21 said:

Also Pcie4.0 will be a good feature to use in future.

I wouldn't worry about pcie 4, the speed difference won't matter here it seems

 

How much is that used lenovo going for?

 

Does power consumption matter here?

 

 

 

[sugarpeter21]

1 hour ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

How much storage do you need? How much budget do you have for storage? Prices seem to not be great now, id probably just get a consumer grade drive now. Endurance shouldn't be a issue here.

 

I wouldn't worry about ecc for a home server here, it probably won't matter

 

I would(or 10700/10400/11700/11400) The intel ones are probably better as there is a igpu

 

There gonna be faster and lower power than the older dual xeons

 

I wouldn't worry about pcie 4, the speed difference won't matter here it seems

 

How much is that used lenovo going for?

 

Does power consumption matter here?

 

 

 

User Lenovo is for £370 approx but i am happy to spend around £600-700 

So if you have something in mind i am all up for it.

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, sugarpeter21 said:

User Lenovo is for £370 approx but i am happy to spend around £600-700 

So if you have something in mind i am all up for it.

Well I don't know what your vms are doing exactly or the needs, but Id probalby just go for the lenovo, get some more ram, and some sata ssds like a 870 evo or two. Should be fast enough(but cpu is normally not the issue). It will be pretty power hungry, probably about 150-200w under normal load.

 

If you want low power, get the new desktop parts.

[sugarpeter21]

9 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Well I don't know what your vms are doing exactly or the needs, but Id probalby just go for the lenovo, get some more ram, and some sata ssds like a 870 evo or two. Should be fast enough(but cpu is normally not the issue). It will be pretty power hungry, probably about 150-200w under normal load.

 

If you want low power, get the new desktop parts.

Vms will be mostly hosting SQL DB and frontend to access locally and online( via https).

As i have same Lenovo C30 for networks i am ok with power it costs  but as you mentioned i am just considering new hardware due to parts avalability.

 

I am also confused with below listing on ebay as it sounds intersting too.

 

 

Lenovo Thinkstation C30 Workstation

Dual Intel Xeon E5-2658 v2 2.4 Ghz 10 Core (20 threads) per processor

128GB DDR3 PC3-12800R (ECC / Registered) - 8x 16GB modules

Intel 1.6TB SSD - 100% Health

ATI Radeon HD5450 Graphics Card

 

[Electronics Wizardy]

1 minute ago, sugarpeter21 said:

Vms will be mostly hosting SQL DB and frontend to access locally and online( via https).

That really doesn't help without knowing you exact setup, and the amount of clients and how heavy they use it, but the system should be fine

 

1 minute ago, sugarpeter21 said:

Lenovo Thinkstation C30 Workstation

Dual Intel Xeon E5-2658 v2 2.4 Ghz 10 Core (20 threads) per processor

128GB DDR3 PC3-12800R (ECC / Registered) - 8x 16GB modules

Intel 1.6TB SSD - 100% Health

ATI Radeon HD5450 Graphics Card

Yea that seems like a pretty good setup. Id go for it.

[sugarpeter21]

18 hours ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

That really doesn't help without knowing you exact setup, and the amount of clients and how heavy they use it, but the system should be fine

 

Yea that seems like a pretty good setup. Id go for it.

done bought it