Cooling a i9-108050k

[gorgeoustomato]

Hey all,

In my next build I’m getting a i9-10850k and was wondering if Lian Li’s Galahad 240m would be sufficient for it. (I do not plan to over clock) 

 

also ima run a 3070 fe in a Lian li 011d mini

And 9 Lian li Uni fans

[Guest]

1 minute ago, gorgeoustomato said:

wondering if Lian Li’s Galahad 240m would be sufficient for it.

Nope. That chip at load will easily be over 200w at stock.

[-rascal-]

31 minutes ago, gorgeoustomato said:

Hey all,

In my next build I’m getting a i9-10850k and was wondering if Lian Li’s Galahad 240m would be sufficient for it. (I do not plan to over clock) 

 

also ima run a 3070 fe in a Lian li 011d mini

And 9 Lian li Uni fans

 

you're going to want something bigger than 240mm.

280mm or 360mm is more ideal, IMO.

 

EDIT: 240mm for stock settings appears to be okay... BUT, I am not sure if that is with Multi-Core Enhancement (MCE) on Auto/Enabled, or Disabled.

[OfficialTechSpace]

1 hour ago, gorgeoustomato said:

i9-108050k

Is this a new sku they just announced? Imma have to look into that one 

jkjk

 

And likely no, get an ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280, Liquid Freezer II 360, or something similar. 

[Guest]

Needs a HeatKiller IMO. The heart of a good loop starts at the water block.

 

 

[unclewebb]

4 hours ago, ShrimpBrime said:

That chip at load will easily be over 200w at stock.

If you are running a stress test like Prime95 Small FFTs then power consumption and temperatures will go through the roof. For most apps, if you lower the default voltage, the 10850K is not that hard to cool.

 

Here is Cinebench with all cores running at the default 4800 MHz. I am using a Corsair H115i Pro XT liquid cooler. The Lian cooler that @gorgeoustomato mentioned should be able to handle this CPU even if he later decides to run a mild overclock. Lowering the voltage makes a big difference.

 

[gorgeoustomato]

38 minutes ago, unclewebb said:

If you are running a stress test like Prime95 Small FFTs then power consumption and temperatures will go through the roof. For most apps, if you lower the default voltage, the 10850K is not that hard to cool.

 

Here is Cinebench with all cores running at the default 4800 MHz. I am using a Corsair H115i Pro XT liquid cooler. The Lian cooler that @gorgeoustomato mentioned should be able to handle this CPU even if he later decides to run a mild overclock. Lowering the voltage makes a big difference.

 

My build is basically going to be just for gaming. So if i do just run it stock and lower the default voltage I should be fine?

[Guest]

38 minutes ago, unclewebb said:

If you are running a stress test like Prime95 Small FFTs then power consumption and temperatures will go through the roof. For most apps, if you lower the default voltage, the 10850K is not that hard to cool.

 

Here is Cinebench with all cores running at the default 4800 MHz. I am using a Corsair H115i Pro XT liquid cooler. The Lian cooler that @gorgeoustomato mentioned should be able to handle this CPU even if he later decides to run a mild overclock. Lowering the voltage makes a big difference.

 

So that's a screenshot all core running small fft at 1.172v and without a bit of vdroop? Is that an offset or manually input?

 

After looking, I saw a number as high as 265w. (Prime95) I'm sure you could knock of maybe 30 or 40w perhaps, but I'm not aware of ambient temps from one region to another. 

 

But looks good from my seat. 

[unclewebb]

14 hours ago, ShrimpBrime said:

So that's a screenshot all core running small fft at 1.172v

The background in that screenshot shows a 10850K fully loaded running Cinebench at 1.172V. 

 

19 hours ago, ShrimpBrime said:

That chip at load will easily be over 200w at stock.

That is true if you are running stress tests like Prime95 Small FFTs. Even with reduced voltage, a 10850K will be up over 250W at 4800 MHz. If one plans to build a rig for gaming then I do not think being Prime95 Small FFTs stable for hours and hours is necessary. It is an overkill torture test for Intel's 10 core CPUs. What game is ever going to fully load 10 cores and 20 threads and then pound the CPU with endless AVX instructions? No games that I have ever heard of create a load like that. 

 

18 hours ago, ShrimpBrime said:

Needs a HeatKiller IMO.

That is a good looking block but I think it is overkill if he is only building a gaming rig, especially if he does not intend to overclock. The heat the 10850K puts out starts going crazy when you go beyond 5000 MHz. At the higher voltages needed to overclock the 10850K, the heat generated will quickly become unmanageable. At default settings with reduced voltage, the 10850K should be easy to manage with the Lian AIO cooler. 

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, unclewebb said:

The background in that screenshot shows a 10850K fully loaded running Cinebench at 1.172V. 

 

That is true if you are running stress tests like Prime95 Small FFTs. Even with reduced voltage, a 10850K will be up over 230W at 4800 MHz. If one plans to build a rig for gaming then I do not think being Prime95 Small FFTs stable for hours and hours is necessary. It is an overkill torture test for Intel's 10 core CPUs. What game is ever going to fully load 10 cores and 20 threads and then pound the CPU with endless AVX instructions? No games that I have ever heard of create a load like that. 

 

That is a good looking block but I think it is overkill if he is only building a gaming rig, especially if he does not intend to overclock. The heat the 10850K puts out starts going crazy when you go beyond 5000 MHz. At the higher voltages needed to overclock the 10850K, the heat generated will quickly become unmanageable. At default settings with reduced voltage, the 10850K should be easy to manage with the Lian AIO cooler. 

Prime95 is only something you had mentioned, but I get the point. I personally like IBT... but to each there own.

 

You have wonderful results and why I tag you on occasions to help people. I find your system temp voltage and clock speed pretty darn good, Intel chips are just inherently hot.

 

The idea on a good water block is to have a lower temp gradient and ultimately lower temps opening the door for higher vcore and clock frequency beyond 5ghz. Which most people do want to overclock. 4.8ghz isn't super impressive if we where talking about maxing performance, but I suppose an AIO could do the trick or a monster heat sink as well for that matter running stock basically just set it up and go.

[Mister Woof]

I tried a big air tower cooler (Deepcool Assassin 3) on my 10900K, and it was rough. Cinebench in the 80s and 90s, seesaw-like fan ramping during load bursts....the thermal density of that monolithic chip is just too much for even big air to handle efficiently.

 

Don't get me wrong, it totally worked, but it wasn't pleasant. The noise even with spending time trying to dial in a good curve was just not good. Remounted/repasted several times with the same results.

 

I switched to a 360mm AIO, and while temps over time aren't THAT much better (about 5-6c easily, though), burst temps are tolerated much better by the water. It takes longer for it to heat soak, so usually by the time the water gets hot, the task is over for daily uses. The air cooler had to instantly ramp up very high to deal with the thermals from bursts, and it just sounded so wonky.

 

This resulted in a much quieter experience with the 360. It stays basically the same no matter what.

[unclewebb]

17 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

Prime95

I did some quick Prime95 testing at 4800 MHz and it needed 1.20V to be reasonably stable. This resulted in a hair over 250W. I am using the Intel GPU at the moment so some of that power consumption is due to that. If you plan to run loads like this on a regular basis then I agree that you need as much cooling as you can afford. For gaming at this speed, you should be able to run a simple AIO.

 

23 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

why I tag you

I tried to contact the last guy you tagged but he never replied. 

 

17 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

burst temps are tolerated much better by the water.

I totally agree with that. I find the fan noise is gentle on the ears. When lightly loaded in the forums, there is hardly any noise at all.   

[xg32]

14 hours ago, gorgeoustomato said:

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I wouldn't recommend just building it for gaming loads, as spike temps can still be quite erratic, iirc real world loads are 180-200w stock and prime fft would be closer to 300w (it's pointless).

 

Anyway whatever you decide to do, downvolt, stock, or oc, i can't recommend a 240mm for that chip.

[Mister Woof]

If it's gaming and a 3070, you could just get a 10700/K and a 240 would be enough to keep it in check

[gorgeoustomato]

9 hours ago, Mister Woof said:

If it's gaming and a 3070, you could just get a 10700/K and a 240 would be enough to keep it in check

After doing some other research I think I will most likely ending up going with a 10700k