AMD vs. Intel midrange gaming PC challenge

ColinLTT · December 27, 2020

You're ready to build your first gaming rig... but who do you go with? Intel? AMD? We pit the two head to head to find out!

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Downkey · December 27, 2020

2 minutes ago, ColinLTT said:

You're ready to build your first gaming rig... but who do you go with? Intel? AMD? We pit the two head to head to find out!

Buy AMD Ryzen 3 3100 CPU
On Amazon (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/DAbFhDL
On B&H (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/w2IFHVO
On Newegg (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/HZbIeGe

Buy ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming 4
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Buy Intel Core i3-10100 CPU
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Buy ASRock B460 Phantom Gaming 4
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Buy G.Skill RipJaws V 16GB DDR4-3600 RAM
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Buy MSI Radeon RX 5700 XT MECH OC GPU
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Buy Corsair 275R Airflow Case
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Buy EVGA B5 550W PSU
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Buy Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU Cooler
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If only they could’ve used the 3300x

mahyar · December 27, 2020

3 minutes ago, Downkey said:

If only they could’ve used the 3300x

and intel has 10300 and 10400f

Egg-Roll · December 27, 2020

I never want to hear budget and $1000 for a computer together being used in the same context again. Title has it right, Linus had it all wrong.

Also, also 5700 XT is PCI 4 compatible... Not like it can use it but it has it.

Equally I find it funny how Linus is playing nice towards the 5700 XT but bashed on AMDs 6000 series.

Hunter259 · December 27, 2020

A modular PSU at this price point is such a waste of $30-40 as well as getting a more expensive case if you are really trying to save every dime like you are acting. Also why even bother getting a cooler when both come with it? All that money saved can go into much better motherboards for both parties who could actually use the higher end CPU's properly as well as fully unlock the Intel memory controller which is likely what made it perform so poorly in that one benchmark.

Radium_Angel · December 27, 2020

3 hours ago, Egg-Roll said:

I never want to hear budget and $1000 for a computer together being used in the same context again. Title has it right, Linus had it all wrong.

Also, also 5700 XT is PCI 4 compatible... Not like it can use it but it has it.

Equally I find it funny how Linus is playing nice towards the 5700 XT but bashed on AMDs 6000 series.

Agreed. Mid-range to me is 5-600$ (tops) and whatever CPUs that gets you. I realize Intel 10th Gen is the current rage, but if on a mid-range system, 8th and 9th gen CPUs can still be had

Imiro · December 27, 2020

If it was Cyberpunk before 1.05 patch, Ryzen CPU might push a bit more fps there.

LAwLz · December 28, 2020

I've decided to watch some LTT videos since I got some time on my hand and holy crap they have not changed one bit since I stopped watching them.

How can Linus with a straight face try and say that you can get a "fantastic" "budget" gaming PC for 1000 dollars.

No Linus, spending 1000 dollars and getting a Ryzen 3100 or Intel 10100, with a budget motherboard, really bad SSD, bad GPU and shitty case is not a "fantastic PC". And I think you know this as well since you even started talking about future upgrades in the video. Nobody spending 1000 dollars on a PC should go in with the mindset that they need to upgrade stuff in the future because they have bought low end stuff (yet somehow spent 1000 dollars).

The conclusion of this video shouldn't be "yeah go ahead and spend 1000 dollars on a PC I pretend is fantastic, because then you can spend even more money on replacing parts later". And then you say this is a "big win for you, the consumer"? Fuck off Linus.

The conclusion should have been "don't buy a PC because pricing and availability is shit right now". If you actually cared about your viewers and not just pleasuring your sponsors that want you to be their sales guy, you would tell your viewers:

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This PC that costs 1000 dollars was only worth like half of that a couple of months ago. Don't spend 1000 dollars on a PC now. You don't actually need a new gaming PC. Save that money and buy a PC next year when pricing have gotten more reasonable. You will get far more bang for your buck.

I understand that your sponsors might not like it, but for your viewers sake it is better to recommend they save their money, rather than recommend they buy something bad.

CrunkleOG · December 28, 2020

5 hours ago, Hunter259 said:

A modular PSU at this price point is such a waste of $30-40 as well as getting a more expensive case if you are really trying to save every dime like you are acting. Also why even bother getting a cooler when both come with it? All that money saved can go into much better motherboards for both parties who could actually use the higher end CPU's properly as well as fully unlock the Intel memory controller which is likely what made it perform so poorly in that one benchmark.

I just built a system very close to this using a i3 10100, Asus Prime B460 plus, Corsair non modular, using a left over 1080 and Corsair 3200 ram and I decided to stay with the stock cooler for now since it's not going to be overclocked. It was a Christmas present and so far working great for the games he wanted to play. If you start looking at components you can actually buy right now that are not ridiculously overpriced, like the linked 5700xt for $600 plus for example, there's not a lot to pick from real world. Going with the 10100 you have a 1200 socket MB so when prices get back to normal it's an easy path to a big upgrade. First post here, just my thinking on this.

CommonTone · December 28, 2020

I am very rarely so confused that I come here to comment... but my goodness the 2.5mm SATA III SSD choice? NVME M.2 SSDs from reputable brands are plus or minus the exact same price for the capacity and the motherboard supports it! PC Part Picker M.2 NVME SSDs 960GB+

December 30, 2020

Even if you just accept overpaying for the graphics cards by a massive amount like they did in the video as a "given" for the builds up-front, you can still very easily do way better than that on both the Intel and AMD side of things... Here's two builds I threw together in like five minutes that both come out to a bit less price-wise than their video equivalents.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B550M-K Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($74.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Mushkin Enhanced Helix-L 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($92.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB STRIX GAMING OC Video Card ($479.99 @ Adorama)
Case: Cougar MX331 MESH ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12III 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($61.98 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 62 CFM 120 mm Fan ($7.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 62 CFM 120 mm Fan ($7.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1065.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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