3700x vs 9700k

[Miniklccn]

Comparison on the two. I was going to buy the 9700k but was told to get the 3700x. Which is better for specs and price?

[Slottr]

For what use?

[Miniklccn]

Just now, Slottr said:

For what use?

Gaming and streaming

[SkilledRebuilds]

Really depends on what game types you play and MAXFPS you kinda want to achieve.

Res, Refresh Rates and the games you play.

 

Usage other than Gaming?

[Miniklccn]

Just now, SkilledRebuilds said:

Really depends on what game types you play and MAXFPS you kinda want to achieve.

Res, Refresh Rates and the games you play.

Streaming, GTA, COD, MC, on a 75hz monitor with a  Radeon RX 5600 XT GPU.

[RONOTHAN##]

I would just say look at the price and how long you plan on going before you upgrade. If you aren't gonna think about upgrading your system for 3-4 years, get a 9700k, as they can be found for cheaper and more easily that the 3700x. If you're the type to upgrade every year and maintain 1 generation behind, get the 3700x, as the upgrade path allows for 5th gen Ryzen. Multicore performance is better with the 3700x, but if all you are doing is streaming and playing games, Intel quicksync and the higher gaming performance of the 9700k would make it the better choice for right now. Then again, with that monitor and GPU config, no matter what you go with these chips will not be the bottleneck in a gaming situation. If you live near a Microcenter, go and pick up a 9700k for $200 with a motherboard combo deal and for that price, you really cannot go wrong.

[xg32]

8 minutes ago, Miniklccn said:

Streaming, GTA, COD, MC, on a 75hz monitor with a  Radeon RX 5600 XT GPU.

thats a tough one, but with a 75hz monitor, i recommend the 3700x over the 9700k only because of streaming, if u can get ur hands on a 5600x, i'd recommend that instead.

[Miniklccn]

8 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

I would just say look at the price and how long you plan on going before you upgrade. If you aren't gonna think about upgrading your system for 3-4 years, get a 9700k, as they can be found for cheaper and more easily that the 3700x. If you're the type to upgrade every year and maintain 1 generation behind, get the 3700x, as the upgrade path allows for 5th gen Ryzen. Multicore performance is better with the 3700x, but if all you are doing is streaming and playing games, Intel quicksync and the higher gaming performance of the 9700k would make it the better choice for right now. Then again, with that monitor and GPU config, no matter what you go with these chips will not be the bottleneck in a gaming situation. If you live near a Microcenter, go and pick up a 9700k for $200 with a motherboard combo deal and for that price, you really cannot go wrong.

Alright, I think I might stick with the 9700k then. I don’t plan to upgrade often either so that seems like a plus. Thanks for the input!

[Miniklccn]

9 minutes ago, xg32 said:

thats a tough one, but with a 75hz monitor, i recommend the 3700x over the 9700k only because of streaming, if u can get ur hands on a 5600x, i'd recommend that instead.

is the 5600x better than both?

[xg32]

Just now, Miniklccn said:

is the 5600x better than both?

yes

[Quackers101]

intels higher single core is often better for gaming.

But the new 5000 amd series have gotten a lot better for gaming, not quite beat intel in some areas.

They do have more flexibility, where it could help with streaming too, and some features they might have for that, if they help that much at all?

if you already have an good intel CPU, better GPU might be a goal instead?

Edited December 23, 2020 by Quackers101

[Miniklccn]

1 minute ago, Quackers101 said:

intels higher single core is often better for gaming.

But the new 5000 amd series have gotten a lot better for gaming, not quite beat intel in some areas.

They do have more flexibility, where it could help with streaming too, and some features they might have for that, if they help that much at all?

For the price of  5600x compared to the 9700k, and knowing I don’t need that good of  setup for streaming or gaming, I think that the 9700k might be the way to go.

[Miniklccn]

4 minutes ago, xg32 said:

yes

I don’t know too much about computers but aren’t pretty much all Ryzen 7s better than Ryzen 5s?

[RONOTHAN##]

2 minutes ago, Miniklccn said:

is the 5600x better than both?

If you can find a 5600x for MSRP, get it as those chips are some of, if not the best value gaming chips on the market, otherwise just go with the 9700k. Just look up how to set up quicksync so your iGPU on the CPU can transcode your stream rather than relying on a few of your cores to do it for you. 

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, Miniklccn said:

I don’t know too much about computers but aren’t pretty much all Ryzen 7s better than Ryzen 5s?

Ryzen 7 has more cores, but a newer Ryzen 5 will be better for gaming than an older ryzen 7 in the majority of cases, due to the improved single core speed

[RONOTHAN##]

1 minute ago, Miniklccn said:

I don’t know too much about computers but aren’t pretty much all Ryzen 7s better than Ryzen 5s?

The main difference between Ryzen 7 and Ryzen 5 is core count. in single threaded applications, gaming being among them, the difference is marginal, with minimal difference between them.

[Miniklccn]

1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

Ryzen 7 has more cores, but a newer Ryzen 5 will be better for gaming than an older ryzen 7 in the majority of cases

Oh okay that helps, thanks.

[Miniklccn]

Just now, RONOTHAN## said:

The main difference between Ryzen 7 and Ryzen 5 is core count. in single threaded applications, gaming being among them, the difference is marginal, with minimal difference between them.

What exactly are single or multiple threaded applications? Sorry I don’t know much.

[RONOTHAN##]

Just now, Miniklccn said:

What exactly are single or multiple threaded applications? Sorry I don’t know much.

It just means applications use more or less cores. Games traditionally do not use many cores, as the majority of them were programmed in the days when 4 cores were the standard. Productivity workloads, like video editing, animation, transcoding, streaming, then to benefit from having more cores. Streaming, though benefits to a point, when it has enough power to run the stream, more cores or core speed does not help. Multicore workloads also involve multitasking, so if you run a a render in the background on 2 cores and a game on the remaining 4 cores if you have a 6 core chip. 

[Quackers101]

2 minutes ago, Miniklccn said:

What exactly are single or multiple threaded applications? Sorry I don’t know much.

single core, is often for games, having higher frames (fps). Although they more often can use more cores these days than older titles.

with ryzen you often get more cores and threads, which means you can use more applications or softwares.

Like playing AND streaming, being different work loads.

[Miniklccn]

6 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

It just means applications use more or less cores. Games traditionally do not use many cores, as the majority of them were programmed in the days when 4 cores were the standard. Productivity workloads, like video editing, animation, transcoding, streaming, then to benefit from having more cores. Streaming, though benefits to a point, when it has enough power to run the stream, more cores or core speed does not help. Multicore workloads also involve multitasking, so if you run a a render in the background on 2 cores and a game on the remaining 4 cores if you have a 6 core chip. 

ohh ok thanks that explains a lot. the 9700k has 8 cores and i’m only going to be gaming mostly. i think it’ll work. thank you!

[Miniklccn]

5 minutes ago, Quackers101 said:

single core, is often for games, having higher frames (fps). Although they more often can use more cores these days than older titles.

with ryzen you often get more cores and threads, which means you can use more applications or softwares.

Like playing AND streaming, being different work loads.

thank you i’ll keep all of this in mind