SURVEY What CPU/GPU combo do you use?

[Wheresmehammer]

1 minute ago, Lord Szechenyi said:

Less efficient= Shit

(of course when the prices between the 1070 and rx 5600 xt are equal or more expensive (the amd card more expensive) because if it was cheaper than i'd say nothing)

No, it means it is less efficient, you have black and white thinking and it puts your 1070 on a pedastal.

[Letgomyleghoe]

3 hours ago, Lord Szechenyi said:

it's not a k, its the normal version (i dont even think it has a k version)

okay, so even more of a reason to go with a 2600

and it does have a k sku 

 

3 hours ago, Lord Szechenyi said:

also it's not single core, it's four cores.

i was referring to single core performance, not that the cpu was single core, do you not do research? 

[Letgomyleghoe]

6 minutes ago, Lord Szechenyi said:

Less efficient= Shit

(of course when the prices between the 1070 and rx 5600 xt are equal or more expensive (the amd card more expensive) because if it was cheaper than i'd say nothing)

but it's cheaper almost everywhere except for your country, insanely cheaper.

[Letgomyleghoe]

1070:

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=1070

5600xt:

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007709 601350459

 

(sorry for triple post)

[Lord Szechenyi]

2 minutes ago, Letgomyleghoe said:

look at the 5700xt, it costs the same as a 2060 almost everywhere, but competes with the 2070s and beats it with a good overclock.

 

you could also buy a 5700 and flash it to a 5700xt for even better price to perf.

Overcloking is irrelevant, because you can overclock a 2070 too.

Also overcloking is a bad thing, and you know it, but that's a discussion for another day 

So the 5700xt is slightly better, but since it's using more in power draw it's fair to say they are worth bout the same price.

Now if i look at prices, the radeon IS cheaper by a few bucks (around 40-60) so indeed it beats it.

However in price/performance both of these cards are ASS.

First of all i'm no fool to buy this when it comes out, hell before my 1070 8which i aquired 5 months ago) i had a 1050ti, and even then i thought that the 1070 at 200euro was too expensive.

Now both of these cards are about 115000-135000 (latter is 2070), but the new 3060ti is going to be 145000Huf sooooooooooo

[Lord Szechenyi]

7 minutes ago, Wheresmehammer said:

No, it means it is less efficient, you have black and white thinking and it puts your 1070 on a pedastal.

it is literally paying for a worse product.

it's (radeon) about 100-150 euro more expensive than the 1070.

[Wheresmehammer]

Just now, Lord Szechenyi said:

Overcloking is irrelevant, because you can overclock a 2070 too.

Also overcloking is a bad thing, and you know it, but that's a discussion for another day 

So the 5700xt is slightly better, but since it's using more in power draw it's fair to say they are worth bout the same price.

Now if i look at prices, the radeon IS cheaper by a few bucks (around 40-60) so indeed it beats it.

However in price/performance both of these cards are ASS.

First of all i'm no fool to buy this when it comes out, hell before my 1070 8which i aquired 5 months ago) i had a 1050ti, and even then i thought that the 1070 at 200euro was too expensive.

Now both of these cards are about 115000-135000 (latter is 2070), but the new 3060ti is going to be 145000Huf sooooooooooo

The 5700-XT is not slightly better, it hangs with the better brother known as the 2070 SUPER within 1-2% and costs significantly less.

 

If anything you seem to really dislike any AMD cards, but if prices are sky high in your country for AMD cards, i can see why, i can reason with you on that.

[Lord Szechenyi]

3 hours ago, Letgomyleghoe said:

1070:

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=1070

5600xt:

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007709 601350459

 

(sorry for triple post)

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First of all, looking at brand new? really????

and second, these 1070 prices are not updated. the card i have is https://www.newegg.com/asus-gtx-1070/p/1FT-000Y-001N2?Description=1070&cm_re=1070-_-9SIA4RRC0N9881-_-Product

i got it for exactly 70000Huf

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[Wheresmehammer]

Just now, Lord Szechenyi said:

it is literally paying for a worse product.

it's (radeon) about 100-150 euro more expensive than the 1070.

Why does it being RADEON matter to how you perceive it as an inferior product?

 

Please educate me like i am a 5 year old so i can understand better.

[Letgomyleghoe]

Just now, Lord Szechenyi said:

Overcloking is irrelevant, because you can overclock a 2070 too.

Also overcloking is a bad thing, and you know it,

you cant overclock a 2070 super to the level you can a 2070, and if it's bad explain to me how it is, I'm within stock voltages, I have good thermals, whats wrong?

2 minutes ago, Lord Szechenyi said:

So the 5700xt is slightly better, but since it's using more in power draw it's fair to say they are worth bout the same price.

haha no. 

5700xt's can be had for $420, i bought my 5700 (non xt) on sale for 350.

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=5700xt

 

the cheapest 2070 costs the same as the most expensive 5700xt 

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=2070s

 

around a $200 difference.

[Wheresmehammer]

In all fairness i bought almost the most expensive 5700-XT so i never had to OC, plus it's silent..

 

 

[Letgomyleghoe]

3 minutes ago, Lord Szechenyi said:

and second, these 1070 prices are not updated. the card i have is https://www.newegg.com/asus-gtx-1070/p/1FT-000Y-001N2?Description=1070&cm_re=1070-_-9SIA4RRC0N9881-_-Product

i got it for exactly 70000Huf

dude you can get a 5700xt for literally $100 more than that... 

which beats the 2070 super.

you've dug yourself into a hole.

 

3 minutes ago, Lord Szechenyi said:

First of all, looking at brand new? really????

so OC'ing is wrong, but buying new is fine... okay...

[Lord Szechenyi]

10 minutes ago, Wheresmehammer said:

The 5700-XT is not slightly better, it hangs with the better brother known as the 2070 SUPER within 1-2% and costs significantly less.

as you noticed in the picture, i compare it to the regular 2070, not the super. (but then again 2070 super is way higher priced, so i guess it's irrelevant)

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If anything you seem to really dislike any AMD cards, but if prices are sky high in your country for AMD cards, i can see why, i can reason with you on that.

i don't dislike any kind of card, hell if i'm honest

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Cards suck, Hail Integrated GPU all the way!!!

but i wouldn't call them sky high in price, rather the us seem to have nvidia cards overpriced (both new and used).

As for amd, well amd availability is mostly non existent.

As in, there are no scalpers of the new 5000 cpus, why?

Because no one sells them in the country, not even company retailers.

 

[Wheresmehammer]

1 minute ago, Lord Szechenyi said:

as you noticed in the picture, i compare it to the regular 2070, not the super. (but then again 2070 super is way higher priced, so i guess it's irrelevant)

i don't dislike any kind of card, hell if i'm honest

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Cards suck, Hail Integrated GPU all the way!!!

but i wouldn't call them sky high in price, rather the us seem to have nvidia cards overpriced (both new and used).

As for amd, well amd availability is mostly non existent.

As in, there are no scalpers of the new 5000 cpus, why?

Because no one sells them in the country, not even company retailers.

 

So you have no reason to be holding a prejudice towards either company then, really you are just arguing with no knowledge?

 

The 2070S matches the 5700-XT and you state that the 2070 SUPER's higher price tag means nothing.

 

Which means you are covering your own bias towards Nvidia as a company.

[Lord Szechenyi]

9 minutes ago, Wheresmehammer said:

Why does it being RADEON matter to how you perceive it as an inferior product?

 

Please educate me like i am a 5 year old so i can understand better.

i don't mean to etyly5, i hope i'm not patronizing.

it has nothing to do that it's amd, hell it could be anything written there, or you'd tell me "Gotcha AMD is nvidia and nvidia is AMD i wouldn't care"

But both of those cards (except for pcie4 like we've said) have the SAME specs (if not worse for the amd card) and yet the AMD card is 50% more expensive than the 1070.

Why would i get something more expensive, when i could get the same thing for cheaper? 

And that's why i bought a 1070

[Wheresmehammer]

Just now, Lord Szechenyi said:

i don't mean to etyly5, i hope i'm not patronizing.

it has nothing to do that it's amd, hell it could be anything written there, or you'd tell me "Gotcha AMD is nvidia and nvidia is AMD i wouldn't care"

But both of those cards (except for pcie4 like we've said) have the SAME specs (if not worse for the amd card) and yet the AMD card is 50% more expensive than the 1070.

Why would i get something more expensive, when i could get the same thing for cheaper? 

And that's why i bought a 1070

I would never tell you to buy the more expensive card, but the 5600XT is not 50% more expensive here where i live, not in any of the western world either.

Nvidia cards also sell overpriced on the used market vs AMD Radeon.

[Lord Szechenyi]

11 minutes ago, Letgomyleghoe said:

dude you can get a 5700xt for literally $100 more than that... 

which beats the 2070 super.

you've dug yourself into a hole.

 

so OC'ing is wrong, but buying new is fine... okay...

No, because price/performance is not as good as the 1070.

My 1050ti cost me around 100 Euros

The 1070 was double that price (just a tad more) and the Performance was Doubled

Whereas buying the 5700Xt is another 100 Euros, yet i only get 1.5 times the performance.

 

Also, you didn't get it, i was saying precisely that buying new is dumb, just like oc'ing

Damn you really don't understand stuff

[piratemonkey]

What if I have Nvidia/Nvidia

[Lord Szechenyi]

9 minutes ago, Wheresmehammer said:

So you have no reason to be holding a prejudice towards either company then, really you are just arguing with no knowledge?

 

The 2070S matches the 5700-XT and you state that the 2070 SUPER's higher price tag means nothing.

 

Which means you are covering your own bias towards Nvidia as a company.

????

No i just mentioned that both of the things we said are irrelevant.

you said that the 2070s matches the 5700xt (which is false, it's actually quite a bit better, by a bit more than 1000 points) which makes it irrelevant.

But since it's more expensive (as i noted) it doesn't matter.

Also, where am i holding prejudice towards anything???

How do i have bias towards anything?

[Lord Szechenyi]

1 minute ago, piratemonkey said:

What if I have Nvidia/Nvidia

I'm slightly confused, what do you have that has Nvidia cpus?

(or ARM since now its nvidia)

Anyway, there's a 6th option that says "something else"

well that

[piratemonkey]

1 minute ago, Lord Szechenyi said:

I'm slightly confused, what do you have that has Nvidia cpus?

(or ARM since now its nvidia)

Anyway, there's a 6th option that says "something else"

well that

It was a bad attempt at a joke

[Wheresmehammer]

3 minutes ago, Lord Szechenyi said:

????

No i just mentioned that both of the things we said are irrelevant.

you said that the 2070s matches the 5700xt (which is false, it's actually quite a bit better, by a bit more than 1000 points) which makes it irrelevant.

But since it's more expensive (as i noted) it doesn't matter.

Also, where am i holding prejudice towards anything???

How do i have bias towards anything?

 

 

 

I asked if you lacked knowledge, you have presented my answer, thank you.

[Lord Szechenyi]

1 minute ago, Wheresmehammer said:

 

 

 

I asked if you lacked knowledge, you have presented my answer, thank you.

yes, you're graph shows that the 2070 Super is BETTER than the 5700xt

How did i prove anything?

 

[Letgomyleghoe]

3 minutes ago, Lord Szechenyi said:

Also, you didn't get it, i was saying precisely that buying new is dumb, just like oc'ing

Damn you really don't understand stuff

how is overclocking dumb? seriously though you still haven't answered me on that.

 

and how is buying new dumb? you don't know what that card was used for, could've been used for mining etc.

while i have bought used a lot it makes sense for most people to buy new.

4 minutes ago, Lord Szechenyi said:

No, because price/performance is not as good as the 1070.

the 5600xt is cheaper in almost every country besides yours, how do you not get that? 

 

5 minutes ago, Lord Szechenyi said:

he 1070 was double that price (just a tad more) and the Performance was Doubled

I have no idea what site that is, but you should be looking at actual benchmarks.

[Wheresmehammer]

1 minute ago, Lord Szechenyi said:

yes, you're graph shows that the 2070 Super is BETTER than the 5700xt

How did i prove anything?

 

1-2% is not a lot faster, it's minimal at best.