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This really depends on what you use it for. In gaming? probably not as fast because Nvidia has DLSS 2.0 and Ray Tracing cores. In productivity? Maybe, I don't know to be honest.

But now, fellow gamers, that was it for me. Please keep in mind, that this is just my personal opionion and I am no expert. Your system shall be cooled forever, see you next time.

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17 minutes ago, zFox said:

I read that the rx 6800xt cards have really good overclocking potential, up to 2.5ghz

 

Does that mean a fully overclocked 6800xt will be considerably better than nvidia 3080 and very close to nvidia 3090 in performance?

as far as we've seen the overclocking potential has been underwhelming for the Reference cards, so you'd have to wait for Custom boards that allow for higher power limits so it could potentially overclock better

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2 minutes ago, .Apex. said:

as far as we've seen the overclocking potential has been underwhelming for the Reference cards, so you'd have to wait for Custom boards that allow for higher power limits so it could potentially overclock better

Still significantly better than the RTX 3000 series had for overclocking headroom on ANY variation of the GPU.

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The RX 6800 xt is not worth it for me. The RTX 3080 even though 50$ more expensive, it has similar performance but a lot more features.

This is the same argument for last been gen Ryzen vs Intel. Intel is better for gaming but Ryzen is better overall. 

But I'm picking the RX 6800 over the RTX 3070 any day.

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23 minutes ago, tommy2712 said:

The RX 6800 xt is not worth it for me. The RTX 3080 even though 50$ more expensive, it has similar performance but a lot more features.

For now... AMD is working on correcting that. Nvidia is also behind on at least one feature, which they are scrambling to implement. (S.A.M.)

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7 hours ago, steelo said:

I'd love to have a 6800 or 6800xt but wouldn't use 1/4 of the performance potential with 1080 75 hz monitors and an oculus rift =( 

 

Next build 😃

You can always run it at 200% render scale, and get insanely better visual fidelity. Depending on the game, it may not even exceed your monitor framerate. Then all you have to do is get a better monitor later, not a new GPU as well.

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4 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

You can always run it at 200% render scale, and get insanely better visual fidelity. Depending on the game, it may not even exceed your monitor framerate. Then all you have to do is get a better monitor later, not a new GPU as well.

I second this, because good prices for two things don't show up at the same time, it can be more efficient to oversize one before upgrading the other. Fr example, I'd buy a 6800XT whilst waiting for cheaper high refresh 4k or 3.2k monitors

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12 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

You can always run it at 200% render scale, and get insanely better visual fidelity. Depending on the game, it may not even exceed your monitor framerate. Then all you have to do is get a better monitor later, not a new GPU as well.

Don't tempt me...LOL

 

I'm also using a Ryzen 5 1600af, so I'm sure I'd have to upgrade that as well to prevent bottlenecking. I just don't know how severe it would be though.

 

I just got this RX 5700 (non-XT) last Christmas. My wife would literally shoot me..haha. I am very happy with it thus far, I haven't tried running at >100% render scale yet. I'm not sure how my current GPU would handle it.

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5 hours ago, steelo said:

I'm also using a Ryzen 5 1600af, so I'm sure I'd have to upgrade that as well to prevent bottlenecking. I just don't know how severe it would be though.

Depends on the game... Shouldn't be that bad in most games.

5 hours ago, steelo said:

My wife would literally shoot me..haha.

Ah, best not to do anything drastic then. ;)

5 hours ago, steelo said:

I haven't tried running at >100% render scale yet. I'm not sure how my current GPU would handle it.

Depends on the game, and your settings, but I wouldn't bother. My 5700XT has trouble getting most games above 60FPS at 4k renderscale.

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58 minutes ago, BTGbullseye said:

 

Depends on the game, and your settings, but I wouldn't bother. My 5700XT has trouble getting most games above 60FPS at 4k renderscale.

You can always run at less than 200%

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4 hours ago, LOST TALE said:

You can always run at less than 200%

That's not the point. I was pointing out the his 5700 non-XT was unlikely to run games at good framerates at 200% render scale when my 5700XT can't. He was curious how his GPU would handle doing it, and I gave a comparison.

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4 hours ago, MarfP said:

Probably not close to 3090 performance, more like around 3080 or slightly better... 

It's at 3080 performance without overclocking already. The 3000 series has practically no overclocking headroom at all, whereas the 6000 series has significant headroom.

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AMD has always had to deal with crap or non-existent optimization for AMD architecture. You will see uplift with driver updates once VulcanRT gets integrated in games. 

 

Im waiting for 6800XT stocks/prices to normalize. Probably Q1 2021.

 

Wont go with RTX because they squeezed everything out from lower specs with higher power draw. AMD matched the FE cards with less power draw. If you were to match AMD power draw to what Nvidia did, you would get the same performance or slightly higher. So in the end its not a competition this time, but more of an alternative thing. 

 

But if you are one of those people, who likes to boast about 1-2 frame gains as an absolute WIN...then go with RTX3000...

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