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High temperature for 5950x

Shiroyuki
By Shiroyuki
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Hi guys I just upgrade my pc to a 5950x on launch day and today I found my idle temperature is too high. I'm wondering what's possibly wrong.

Hardware: Motherboard: MSI X570 Unify AIO: Corsair H150i pro Thermal paste: Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut

Settings: Motherboard PBO On, No other OC settings, Windows High Permorfance Power Strategy

I just notice this abnnormal themperature today and with a habbit of keeping HWmonitor open on my side screen all the time and don't remember any abnormal temperature before, I would assume this problem come up today.

My AIO's pump and fans are working fine and I don't think it's an AIO's problem.

I manually adjusted my CPU usage, voltage and found this:

30w - 38 ℃(2.18Ghz idle) / 90w - 80℃(PBO) / 220w - 82 ℃ (PBO full load)spacer.png

Both the 30w temp and full load temp is pretty good for me but the idle temp 90w is too high. 90 watt at 80℃? I would prefer a lower temp and I see many reviewers getting 50-60℃ full load, I think I'm having an issue here.

Any idea would help! Thank you!

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90w does not count as idle, either HWmonitor or Task Manager is wrong (more likely HWmonitor, bad track record). Use HWinfo in sensor mode.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Which temp software is this? May wanna try open hardware monitor or something else to verify it is reading correctly.

 

There is something wrong here indeed but lets get software out of the way first.

 

For hardware check if the pump is running and if it's running at a high enough speed.

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

90w does not count as idle, either HWmonitor or Task Manager is wrong (more likely HWmonitor, bad track record). Use HWinfo in sensor mode.

Yeah I'm also thinking why it's sitting at 90 watt. AIDA64 show the same temperatue and power usage. But anyway I still consider 80℃ for 90w and 32℃ AIO liquid temp is not accepable.

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6 minutes ago, Shiroyuki said:

30w - 38 ℃(2.18Ghz idle) / 90w - 80℃(PBO) / 220w - 82 ℃ (PBO full load)

that doesn't seem all to odd, i would check your aio is tightened all the way down, and that your thermal paste spread properly

AMD blackout rig

 

cpu: ryzen 5 3600 @4.4ghz @1.35v

gpu: rx5700xt 2200mhz

ram: vengeance lpx c15 3200mhz

mobo: gigabyte b550 auros pro 

psu: cooler master mwe 650w

case: masterbox mbx520

fans:Noctua industrial 3000rpm x6

 

 

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2 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Which temp software is this? May wanna try open hardware monitor or something else to verify it is reading correctly.

 

There is something wrong here indeed but lets get software out of the way first.

 

For hardware check if the pump is running and if it's running at a high enough speed.

That HWMonitor, AIDA64 shows the same temp. Pump around 2350 RPM.

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Just now, Shiroyuki said:

I'm using a testbench so it's 100 percent fresh and cool air in my room.

More of the is the rad mounted higher than the pump? Could simply be air going around clogging the pump and block up so if possible put the rad as high as it can and see what happens with that. Also may wanna check mounting pressure.

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4 minutes ago, Letgomyleghoe said:

that doesn't seem all to odd, i would check your aio is tightened all the way down, and that your thermal paste spread properly

I think it's tightened. I can still tight it about with tremedous force but Corsair's manual says do not overtighten it so I didn't want to damage it. I'm sure the paste is spreaded properly as I'm unmounted it once and observed how my heat paste job is and repaste it.

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2 minutes ago, jaslion said:

More of the is the rad mounted higher than the pump? Could simply be air going around clogging the pump and block up so if possible put the rad as high as it can and see what happens with that. Also may wanna check mounting pressure.

I'm not sure how to check mount pressure though. 

My radiator is mounted on the same height with the pump but the liquid is cool. Would the rad's height influence inside flow?

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4 minutes ago, Shiroyuki said:

I think it's tightened. I can still tight it about with tremedous force but Corsair's manual says do not overtighten it so I didn't want to damage it. I'm sure the paste is spreaded properly as I'm unmounted it once and observed how my heat paste job is and repaste it.

ive never mounted on that aio, but most am4 mounts have springs on them so you get the correct mounting pressures, does yours have springs? if you have to put alot of force into it's probably all the way down

AMD blackout rig

 

cpu: ryzen 5 3600 @4.4ghz @1.35v

gpu: rx5700xt 2200mhz

ram: vengeance lpx c15 3200mhz

mobo: gigabyte b550 auros pro 

psu: cooler master mwe 650w

case: masterbox mbx520

fans:Noctua industrial 3000rpm x6

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Shiroyuki said:

I'm not sure how to check mount pressure though. 

My radiator is mounted on the same height with the pump but the liquid is cool. Would the rad's height influence inside flow?

Yes very much so. The rad is always supposed to be higher than the pump so it can trap the air that is in the aio in it's designated airpockets for it to prevent bad performance.

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13 minutes ago, Shiroyuki said:

Yeah I'm also thinking why it's sitting at 90 watt. AIDA64 show the same temperatue and power usage. But anyway I still consider 80℃ for 90w and 32℃ AIO liquid temp is not accepable.

Hwinfo and Ryzen Master tends to be more reliable. AIDA64 is more about being a benchmark tool while HWmonitor is just not good in recent years. Was good when my desktop CPU is mainstream, not anymore.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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4 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Yes very much so. The rad is always supposed to be higher than the pump so it can trap the air that is in the aio in it's designated airpockets for it to prevent bad performance.

I will try putting the rad higher!

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22 minutes ago, Shiroyuki said:

I will try putting the rad higher!

 

27 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Yes very much so. The rad is always supposed to be higher than the pump so it can trap the air that is in the aio in it's designated airpockets for it to prevent bad performance.

Just tried, no changes.

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