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I'm not sure which topic it fits so I put it in this one.

I am upgrading my laptop(an xps 13 2 in 1 2016) to the 2020 model, I wish to be able to easily move all my files and software to my new PC, is there an easy way that i can do this, Say with IPhone where u can setup from another device which is already setup and nearby.

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3 minutes ago, Spoiled_Kitten said:

Hi all,

I'm not sure which topic it fits so I put it in this one.

I am upgrading my laptop(an xps 13 2 in 1 2016) to the 2020 model, I wish to be able to easily move all my files and software to my new PC, is there an easy way that i can do this, Say with IPhone where u can setup from another device which is already setup and nearby.

Thanks, Blake

you should be able to send all your files over with usb to usb-c

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5 minutes ago, Letgomyleghoe said:

you should be able to send all your files over with usb to usb-c

That's not how USB works...

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                           ┌─────────────── Office/Rack ────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
Google Fiber Webpass ────── UniFi Security Gateway ─── UniFi Switch 8-60W ─┬─ UniFi Switch Flex XG ═╦═ Veda (Proxmox Virtual Switch)
(500Mbps↑/500Mbps↓)                             UniFi CloudKey Gen2 (PoE) ─┴─ Veda (IPMI)           ╠═ Veda-NAS (HW Passthrough NIC)
╔═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╩═ Narrative (Asus USB 2.5G NIC)
║ ┌────── Closet ──────┐   ┌─────────────── Bedroom ──────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
╚═ UniFi Switch Flex XG ═╤═ UniFi Switch Flex XG ═╦═ Byarlant
   (PoE)                 │                        ╠═ Narrative (Cable Matters USB-PD 2.5G Ethernet Dongle)
                         │                        ╚═ Jesta Cannon*
                         │ ┌─────────────── Media Center ──────────────────────────────────┐
Notes:                   └─ UniFi Switch 8 ─────────┬─ UniFi Access Point nanoHD (PoE)
═══ is Multi-Gigabit                                ├─ Sony Playstation 4 
─── is Gigabit                                      ├─ Pioneer VSX-S520
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1 minute ago, AbydosOne said:

That's not how USB works...

are you saying you cant transfer files over it between pc's or what

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Just now, Letgomyleghoe said:

are you saying you cant transfer files over it between pc's or what

To the best of my knowledge, there's no provision in USB-C for making a PC a client device and reading from it. Admittedly, I don't have two USB-C computers to test this, but it's certainly true of USB 3.0/2.0 (of the types A and B variety).

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Laptop (Narrative): Lenovo Flex 5 81X20005US | Ryzen 5 4500U | 16GB RAM (soldered) | Vega 6 Graphics | SKHynix P31 1TB NVMe SSD | Intel AX200 Wifi (all-around awesome machine)

 

Proxmox Server (Veda): Ryzen 7 3800XT | AsRock Rack X470D4U | Corsair H80i v2 | 64GB Micron DDR4 ECC 3200MT/s | 4x 10TB WD Whites / 4x 14TB Seagate Exos / 2× Samsung PM963a 960GB SSD | Seasonic Prime Fanless 500W | Intel X540-T2 10G NIC | LSI 9207-8i HBA | Fractal Design Node 804 Case (side panels swapped to show off drives) | VMs: TrueNAS Scale; Ubuntu Server (PiHole/PiVPN/NGINX?); Windows 10 Pro; Ubuntu Server (Apache/MySQL)


Media Center/Video Capture (Jesta Cannon): Ryzen 5 1600X | ASRock B450M Pro4 R2.0 | Noctua NH-L12S | 16GB Crucial DDR4 3200MT/s CAS-22 | EVGA GTX750Ti SC | UMIS NVMe SSD 256GB /

TEAMGROUP MS30 1TB | Corsair CX450M | Viewcast Osprey 260e Video Capture | Mellanox ConnectX-2 10G NIC | LG UH12NS30 BD-ROM | Silverstone Sugo SG-11 Case | Sony XR65A80K

 

Camera: Sony ɑ7II w/ Meike Grip | Sony SEL24240 | Samyang 35mm ƒ/2.8 | Sony SEL50F18F | Sony SEL2870 (kit lens) | PNY Elite Perfomance 512GB SDXC card

 

Network:

Spoiler
                           ┌─────────────── Office/Rack ────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
Google Fiber Webpass ────── UniFi Security Gateway ─── UniFi Switch 8-60W ─┬─ UniFi Switch Flex XG ═╦═ Veda (Proxmox Virtual Switch)
(500Mbps↑/500Mbps↓)                             UniFi CloudKey Gen2 (PoE) ─┴─ Veda (IPMI)           ╠═ Veda-NAS (HW Passthrough NIC)
╔═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╩═ Narrative (Asus USB 2.5G NIC)
║ ┌────── Closet ──────┐   ┌─────────────── Bedroom ──────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
╚═ UniFi Switch Flex XG ═╤═ UniFi Switch Flex XG ═╦═ Byarlant
   (PoE)                 │                        ╠═ Narrative (Cable Matters USB-PD 2.5G Ethernet Dongle)
                         │                        ╚═ Jesta Cannon*
                         │ ┌─────────────── Media Center ──────────────────────────────────┐
Notes:                   └─ UniFi Switch 8 ─────────┬─ UniFi Access Point nanoHD (PoE)
═══ is Multi-Gigabit                                ├─ Sony Playstation 4 
─── is Gigabit                                      ├─ Pioneer VSX-S520
* = cable passed to Bedroom from Media Center       ├─ Sony XR65A80K (Google TV)
** = cable passed from Media Center to Bedroom      └─ Work Laptop** (Startech USB-PD Dock)

Retired/Other:

Spoiler

Laptop (Rozen-Zulu): Sony VAIO VPCF13WFX | Core i7-740QM | 8GB Patriot DDR3 | GT 425M | Samsung 850EVO 250GB SSD | Blu-ray Drive | Intel 7260 Wifi (lived a good life, retired with honor)

Testbed/Old Desktop (Kshatriya): Xeon X5470 @ 4.0GHz | ZALMAN CNPS9500 | Gigabyte EP45-UD3L | 8GB Nanya DDR2 400MHz | XFX HD6870 DD | OCZ Vertex 3 Max-IOPS 120GB | Corsair CX430M | HooToo USB 3.0 PCIe Card | Osprey 230 Video Capture | NZXT H230 Case

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7 minutes ago, AbydosOne said:

To the best of my knowledge, there's no provision in USB-C for making a PC a client device and reading from it. Admittedly, I don't have two USB-C computers to test this, but it's certainly true of USB 3.0/2.0 (of the types A and B variety).

ah i should try this, i thought you could but maybe not

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cpu: ryzen 5 3600 @4.4ghz @1.35v

gpu: rx5700xt 2200mhz

ram: vengeance lpx c15 3200mhz

mobo: gigabyte b550 auros pro 

psu: cooler master mwe 650w

case: masterbox mbx520

fans:Noctua industrial 3000rpm x6

 

 

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Just now, Letgomyleghoe said:

ah i should try this, i thought you could but maybe not

I'm pretty sure too that you can't

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Just now, Prometheus935 said:

I'm pretty sure too that you can't

i must be wrong on this

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gpu: rx5700xt 2200mhz

ram: vengeance lpx c15 3200mhz

mobo: gigabyte b550 auros pro 

psu: cooler master mwe 650w

case: masterbox mbx520

fans:Noctua industrial 3000rpm x6

 

 

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I can copy via usb but want to be able to copy the software as well as some of it isn't available anymore.

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30 minutes ago, Letgomyleghoe said:

ah i should try this, i thought you could but maybe not

Not yet unless there's a port on one of the computers for it to act as a client. The upcoming USB spec I believe has provisions for host to host transfers but nothing has come yet.

 

As for the OP's question. You could make your drives on one of your computers a network/shared drive and transfer data through ethernet/wifi. If you go through cable you could achieve up to 125MB/s transfer.

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26 minutes ago, Spoiled_Kitten said:

I can copy via usb but want to be able to copy the software as well as some of it isn't available anymore.

In that case you're probably better off cloning the drive and then reinstalling that image on your new system. Though I don't know how that would work for drivers and what not from the old system. Just copying programs typically isn't a good idea because they're usually spread out throughout multiple directories and the registry through the OS. If you miss something the software doesn't always catch that or doesn't have the data necessary to recreate the files and entry's needed.

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-> Moved to Programs, Apps and Websites

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If you will be having both PCs at hand at the same time, network folders is the best. If not, using external HDD.

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A somewhat unconventional method, but if you extract your old storage drive, you can use cloning software to migrate the whole OS and all its data to the new drive. Assuming you have a SATA to USB cable (assuming it's a SATA drive), it should be relatively straightforward. I did this a few times using Samsung's cloning software, but it might not be worth the extra effort, depending on how much you have to do to extract your old drive.

 

For me, it was worth doing it because I spent a lot of time setting up my Linux terminal on windows, among other things. Honestly, IMHO it's easier just to download most of the easy bits like your browser and steam, then manually migrate data using a fast USB or external drive. Unless, of course, you just have a ton of software to install and lots of customizations. 

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On 11/14/2020 at 6:15 AM, Laforet said:

A somewhat unconventional method, but if you extract your old storage drive, you can use cloning software to migrate the whole OS and all its data to the new drive. Assuming you have a SATA to USB cable (assuming it's a SATA drive), it should be relatively straightforward. I did this a few times using Samsung's cloning software, but it might not be worth the extra effort, depending on how much you have to do to extract your old drive.

 

For me, it was worth doing it because I spent a lot of time setting up my Linux terminal on windows, among other things. Honestly, IMHO it's easier just to download most of the easy bits like your browser and steam, then manually migrate data using a fast USB or external drive. Unless, of course, you just have a ton of software to install and lots of customizations. 

It's a m.2 drive. ill look  into it.

On 11/14/2020 at 4:25 AM, LogicalDrm said:

-> Moved to Programs, Apps and Websites

***

 

If you will be having both PCs at hand at the same time, network folders is the best. If not, using external HDD.

I also need to have the programs, so network folders wouldn't work

 

On 11/13/2020 at 2:32 PM, NineEyeRon said:

Clone drive or network PCs? 

It is a drive PC not network as i haven't got that setup.

On 11/13/2020 at 1:32 PM, PeachGr said:

https://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1013067/

Try this. I only used to to keep the product key if windows, but I think you can use it

I'll have a look into it, however i don't think it will do for all programs and stuff.

On 11/13/2020 at 12:44 PM, trag1c said:

In that case you're probably better off cloning the drive and then reinstalling that image on your new system. Though I don't know how that would work for drivers and what not from the old system. Just copying programs typically isn't a good idea because they're usually spread out throughout multiple directories and the registry through the OS. If you miss something the software doesn't always catch that or doesn't have the data necessary to recreate the files and entry's needed.

Yeah i'm aware that copying programs isn't a good idea and that is why I don't want to do that, I'm not sure how to do the image install with the files on Windows, would it be similar to linux?

 

On 11/13/2020 at 12:38 PM, trag1c said:

Not yet unless there's a port on one of the computers for it to act as a client. The upcoming USB spec I believe has provisions for host to host transfers but nothing has come yet.

 

As for the OP's question. You could make your drives on one of your computers a network/shared drive and transfer data through ethernet/wifi. If you go through cable you could achieve up to 125MB/s transfer.

It has usb-c type 2 i believe but usb transfer isn't my favourite option as the other laptop would need to be in use as It is for work and runs like all day, and can't stop as self employed and every minute without using it is costy.

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@Spoiled_Kitten

So you are looking to clone a drive? That might not work well moving from OEM device to another.
I would highly recommend that you move just files and configurations (either exporting directly from software or by copying AppData folders).

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22 hours ago, LogicalDrm said:

@Spoiled_Kitten

So you are looking to clone a drive? That might not work well moving from OEM device to another.
I would highly recommend that you move just files and configurations (either exporting directly from software or by copying AppData folders).

Yeah i think i will end up doing that, but was just seeing if there was another way

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