Am4 vs Am4 mobo

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Guys,

 

What are the main differences of the below two motherboards:

 

MSI MPG X570 GAMING PRO CARBON WIFI AM4

+I'd buy a 10gb pcie card to fit my 10gig network (extra 40/100)

 

or

MSI PRESTIGE X570 CREATION AM4

 

Which already has 10gb but £210 more ($276 more)

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Decided on MSI MPG X570 GAMING PRO CARBON WIFI AM4, cheaper and will only miss out on two things, the USB ports in the back and the 10Gig port both of which I'll have to buy extra.

 

The power delivery is better on the creation but e-atx form factor just makes it a bit so much more unlikable as I'd have to look for bigger cases..

 

Topic can be closed...

[Ankh Tech]

5 minutes ago, zeros said:

Decided on MSI MPG X570 GAMING PRO CARBON WIFI AM4, cheaper and will only miss out on two things, the USB ports in the back and the 10Gig port both of which I'll have to buy extra.

 

The power delivery is better on the creation but e-atx form factor just makes it a bit so much more unlikable as I'd have to look for bigger cases..

 

Topic can be closed...

Godlike is also e-atx

[WkdPaul]

* thread moved to the CPUs, Motherboards, and Memory section *

[Guest]

2 hours ago, zeros said:

Decided on MSI MPG X570 GAMING PRO CARBON WIFI AM4, cheaper and will only miss out on two things, the USB ports in the back and the 10Gig port both of which I'll have to buy extra.

 

The power delivery is better on the creation but e-atx form factor just makes it a bit so much more unlikable as I'd have to look for bigger cases..

 

Topic can be closed...

The X570 Gaming Carbon is not a good choice. The X570 Tomahawk would be a much better option. Even the B550 Tomahawk version is better than the Carbon.

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3 hours ago, Ankh tech tips said:

Godlike is also e-atx

I wasn't talking about godlike, carbon is ATX. Are you trying to say godlike is another good one to look at?

1 hour ago, lee32uk said:

The X570 Gaming Carbon is not a good choice. The X570 Tomahawk would be a much better option. Even the B550 Tomahawk version is better than the Carbon.

How is it better? I'm buying it for the 5900x so I won't be looking at B series.

 

Almost bought it so I'll wait a bit more to see more opinions.

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, zeros said:

I wasn't talking about godlike, carbon is ATX. Are you trying to say godlike is another good one to look at?

How is it better? I'm buying it for the 5900x so I won't be looking at B series.

 

Almost bought it so I'll wait a bit more to see more opinions.

The VRM is not very good on the Gaming Carbon.

 

Why are you ruling out B550 ? The B550 Tomahawk for example is a solid board and can handle a 5950X.

[ishapli8]

4 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

The VRM is not very good on the Gaming Carbon.

 

Why are you ruling out B550 ? The B550 Tomahawk for example is a solid board and can handle a 5950X.

I agree the differences between b550 and x570 are pretty small. Either one will work for you.

[Ankh Tech]

10 hours ago, zeros said:

I wasn't talking about godlike, carbon is ATX. Are you trying to say godlike is another good one to look at?

How is it better? I'm buying it for the 5900x so I won't be looking at B series.

 

Almost bought it so I'll wait a bit more to see more opinions.

 

10 hours ago, lee32uk said:

The VRM is not very good on the Gaming Carbon.

 

Why are you ruling out B550 ? The B550 Tomahawk for example is a solid board and can handle a 5950X.

I agree, the godlike is a much better choice, better vrms and has 10g la too carbon pro wifi and gaming edge wifi are really bad, tomahawk is better but godlike is the best

[Orange1]

13 hours ago, lee32uk said:

The X570 Gaming Carbon is not a good choice. The X570 Tomahawk would be a much better option. Even the B550 Tomahawk version is better than the Carbon.

Carbon aint that great, thats agreed upon. I like the Tomahawk, its a great board.

[BTGbullseye]

You should look at the ASRock X570 boards as well... The Steel Legend and Taichi are great boards, as well.

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8 hours ago, Ankh tech tips said:

 

I agree, the godlike is a much better choice, better vrms and has 10g la too carbon pro wifi and gaming edge wifi are really bad, tomahawk is better but godlike is the best

Godlike is 2.5 times the price of carbon... that's quite frankly too much.

[Ankh Tech]

20 minutes ago, zeros said:

Godlike is 2.5 times the price of carbon... that's quite frankly too much.

Wait if you are gonna buy a ryzen 5000, stay away from msi boards, they cause ram to run much slower, even with xmp, here is the thread:

 

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How about the

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/L23mP6/asus-rog-crosshair-viii-hero-atx-am4-motherboard-rog-crosshair-viii-hero

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While we are at it, is the Kraken X63 AIO CPU Water Cooler - 280mm gonna be enough for the 5900x?

Currently in basket:

 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, zeros said:

While we are at it, is the Kraken X63 AIO CPU Water Cooler - 280mm gonna be enough for the 5900x?

Currently in basket:

 

If you are wanting the Crosshair then maybe wait for the Dark Hero board. It will probably be a bit more expensive knowing Asus, but in fairness you do get an upgrade on the VRM (Power stages are 90A) and the board also has no chipset fan.

 

https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-crosshair/rog-crosshair-viii-dark-hero-model/

 

Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut is better thermal paste.

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/XHqbt6/thermal-grizzly-kryonaut-1g-1g-thermal-paste-tg-k-001-rs

 

I would rather have an Arctic Liquid Freezer II. 

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/smDkcf/arctic-liquid-freezer-ii-280-728-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-acfre00066a

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27 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

If you are wanting the Crosshair then maybe wait for the Dark Hero board. It will probably be a bit more expensive knowing Asus, but in fairness you do get an upgrade on the VRM (Power stages are 90A) and the board also has no chipset fan.

 

https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-crosshair/rog-crosshair-viii-dark-hero-model/

 

Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut is better thermal paste.

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/XHqbt6/thermal-grizzly-kryonaut-1g-1g-thermal-paste-tg-k-001-rs

 

I would rather have an Arctic Liquid Freezer II. 

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/smDkcf/arctic-liquid-freezer-ii-280-728-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-acfre00066a

Crosshair is also 90A. I'm okay with the chipset fan but the crosshair doesn't have one so I don't understand why you mention either of these?

 

Thermal paste.. noted. Saved

 

Cooler noted. Will review better once board is bought

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11 minutes ago, zeros said:

Crosshair is also 90A. I'm okay with the chipset fan but the crosshair doesn't have one so I don't understand why you mention either of these?

 

Thermal paste.. noted. Saved

 

Cooler noted. Will review better once board is bought

The Crosshair VIII Hero uses 60A power stages and it does have a chipset fan, that is why I mentioned it. 

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33 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

The Crosshair VIII Hero uses 60A power stages and it does have a chipset fan, that is why I mentioned it. 

I was looking at the wrong one, sorry. Had the Dark Hero specs open by mistake which is 90A but  more expensive.

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Got the RAM so far and the PSU is what I already have will have to review online if any issues with the 3080 (EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified).

 

So I went with the standard Crosshair VIII Hero, 60A should still be a lot more than needed for the 5900.

 

I got the motherboard with Wi-Fi for only £320 instead of the standard £420. Now I just need to find someone to give me a CPU for me to test it with before the 30d return runs out.

 

 

[zeros]

On 11/8/2020 at 3:48 PM, lee32uk said:

If you are wanting the Crosshair then maybe wait for the Dark Hero board. It will probably be a bit more expensive knowing Asus, but in fairness you do get an upgrade on the VRM (Power stages are 90A) and the board also has no chipset fan.

 

https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-crosshair/rog-crosshair-viii-dark-hero-model/

 

Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut is better thermal paste.

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/XHqbt6/thermal-grizzly-kryonaut-1g-1g-thermal-paste-tg-k-001-rs

 

I would rather have an Arctic Liquid Freezer II. 

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/smDkcf/arctic-liquid-freezer-ii-280-728-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-acfre00066a

So I have the motherboard and I am supposed to receive the RAM and 5900x CPU tomorrow night.

I got the AIO recommended by you after lots of thinking about NH-D15 vs X63 vs Arctic Liquid Freezer II. This arrives tomorrow. 

 

I also ordered the Noctua thermal paste NT-H2 which arrives Friday next week so until then I'll either use the one pre-applied to the AIO or if it doesn't have one I still have a dab of E1 IC essential from Cooler Master.